Ingrediants: 40% peat moss 30% AF Alaska humus/ewc(50/50ish) 30% perlite Kelp meal Alfalfa meal Dr earth tomato, veg herb Espoma greensand Espoma garden lime I mixed and planted already. What should I expect? My plants are about 16"-28" tall, and have been vegging for 3-4 weeks. They have been in flowering for 5 days already. I moved them from not quite a half gallon pot to a 4.8ish gallon pot. I plan on only adding water and possibly some teas of some sort. If needed ofcouse. I plan on cooking for the future. I just needed to transplant. I guess my question is.. Will I burn my ladies or will the available nutes just not be available? what are my conceivable problems. Also how could I avoid any, if they are terribly disasterous?
You're already planted: time will tell. You may or may not "burn" your plants - I have. The "cooking" time is needed to break down your amendments into usable plant food, and is "recommended". Keep us posted as to your results - and good luck. J
I have too, 'burnt' plants. The 'cooking' starts when you add moisture to the mix and the bacteria get going breaking things down. It gets hot, thus the 'cooking' part. This happens regardless of adding plants or not, so there is a good chance of burning the roots. You'll know soon enough. Wet
i did the samething and i'm starting to notice brown spots and curling tips is there anything i can do at this point not to lose my plant?
Well do you think these burns are going to hurt my plants enough to kill them? Or keep them from producing properly. I could replant them in lighter potting mix I know will at least produce a finalized product. I cant afford to loose these ladies.
I just got done with my "science experiment" of not letting amendments cycle properly. They where fucked up. Not healthy at all. It yielded but I composted the whole run. Now this run with same soil properly cycled, same plants, and SIPs, I'm stoked. No deficiencies, everything healthy, I've never worked with a easier system. Get your cloner built and take some cuttings.
[quote name='"StickyFiskers"']I just got done with my "science experiment" of not letting amendments cycle properly. They where fucked up. Not healthy at all. It yielded but I composted the whole run. Now this run with same soil properly cycled, same plants, and SIPs, I'm stoked. No deficiencies, everything healthy, I've never worked with a easier system. Get your cloner built and take some cuttings.[/quote] Why did you compost it was it shit tasting or something
Btw my amendment measurements arefor approximately 2 cf. Of soil mix) Slightly less than 3/4 cup of each, Kelp meal Alfalfa meal Dr earth tomato, veg herb I know the lime and greensand wont burn anything. also I notice that my amendments are less than most recipes I have read on these forums(about half). so would that make my chances of burning less? Or is it the humus mix I use that would more likely be the cause of the burn if it happened? I just thought this might be useful for anybody lookin to help. I need to make a decision quick on weather or not I should retransplant. any suggestions are appreciated.
[quote name='"wetdog"'] I have too, 'burnt' plants. The 'cooking' starts when you add moisture to the mix and the bacteria get going breaking things down. It gets hot, thus the 'cooking' part. This happens regardless of adding plants or not, so there is a good chance of burning the roots. You'll know soon enough. Wet[/quote] Approximately how long till I might see the burn?
Send some good vibes towards your plants and you may not see burn at all. I potted up a few from 1.7gal pots to 3gal pots recently, without letting the new soil "cook" much at all. My plants were at the point where they were showing signs of root crowding in the foliage, so I had to do something. They seem to be grateful for the new real estate, and never did I notice any bad symptoms aside from scars from outgrowing the pots; they are thriving now. The "cooking" is recommended, but not mandatory. The individual elements of your soil most likely had time to "cook" on the shelf or in the bin. Don't sweat it. I am doubtful a few cups of raw organic matter will heat up 15gal of mix enough to do harm. My 2 yen. Please post updates.
[quote name='"trikfinite"']Send some good vibes towards your plants and you may not see burn at all. I potted up a few from 1.7gal pots to 3gal pots recently, without letting the new soil "cook" much at all. My plants were at the point where they were showing signs of root crowding in the foliage, so I had to do something. They seem to be grateful for the new real estate, and never did I notice any bad symptoms aside from scars from outgrowing the pots; they are thriving now. The "cooking" is recommended, but not mandatory. The individual elements of your soil most likely had time to "cook" on the shelf or in the bin. Don't sweat it. I am doubtful a few cups of raw organic matter will heat up 15gal of mix enough to do harm. My 2 yen. Please post updates.[/quote] Thanks dude that does make me feel better about things. I will update my results. Thanks all
thanks i think your right, my main plant stop showing signs of burn. its getting back green guess it was just shock and the other plant that was dying is coming back with new petals, green is replacing yellow and i def see it getting taller. i got another batch of super soil cooking just incase, i also bought seeds for the first time and i dont want them dying it really would be a lost of money! not sure when and how to clone read a few threads but still not feeling comfortable to go for it. any advice is welcomed....
They were dead in less than a week. It was a few gallons some really hot mix that I had made up and grabbed the wrong bucket transplanting a few clones from party cups. They were well rooted and intended as gifts, but I didn't intend them to go into that mix. @shodan With the amounts you listed you might be ok. That's pretty light. I had ~5x what you added and the burn showed right away. If they are not showing burn by now I wouldn't worry about it too much and just let them be, cause if it was going to happen you would have noticed in 3 days or so. Wet
. I did this once, amended some Roots with Down to Earth All Purpose Mix and did a transplant on a 3 ft plant... shocked it for a time, twisted some leaves, stalled growth... but after a time it finally was able to bite into that new rich soil, and it was glorious the way it took off! I got away with it, and learned how much the plants love organically amended soil. Next time I will nutrient cycle (cook) for two months. Good luck. ~
Don't worry unless you see a problem. If you do use the cure all. Mix some vermicompost (EWC) into a soupy liquid and pour it on your soil.
I've been in the very same boat - constructed what some would call a very hot soil, got impatient and did not allow sufficient cycling time. Plants got very funky to say the least. After sufficient cycling the next batch of plants went crazy with growth I never saw with hydro nutes - it was crazy - inches of thick lush vibrant growth on a daily basis. It taught me a lesson in organics. J
[quote name='"jerry111165"']I've been in the very same boat - constructed what some would call a very hot soil, got impatient and did not allow sufficient cycling time. Plants got very funky to say the least. After sufficient cycling the next batch of plants went crazy with growth I never saw with hydro nutes - it was crazy - inches of thick lush vibrant growth on a daily basis. It taught me a lesson in organics. J[/quote] Well I coukd use a lesson, but I cant afford to if possible
Day 2: good so far.. I will post again soon. I geuss im going to let it go and see what happens... Thanks all for your input. -Shodan