I am trying to figure out what the most efficient way to to store larger amounts of BHO is. I have a nice dish for at max 3 grams, but when looking at 30+ grams I am not sure the best way to store it. I was thinking about a large oil dish but I cannot find one that I think would fit that quantity inside... Although I'm not entirely sure what an oz. of bho looks like size wise. I have looked on etsy and eBay and done a few google searches but no luck on a large dish, anybody know any other good glass sites? How is an oz of oil stored when it comes from the dispensaries? Pics? Thanks in advance for the help.
If for some reason you have to make that much bho at once i would suggest an airtight container. THC degrades much faster in concentrated form. Oxygen is responsible and your drier crumble types start degrading significantly after a few days. I've heard of oil/sap/shatter retaining potency for a few weeks. Your bho won't go bad necessarily, it just loses potency and loses the cerebral intensity of the thc and is overwhelmed by a heavy CBD type high. I think its the the degradation of THC to thc-a or something like that, and an increase in CBN, that changes the high. But for an oz of dry, stable wax i would store it in a mason jar. And for something stickier and less stable probably a tupper-ware container with air tight latches, just so it's easier to scape out of than a glass jar. But if you're making it yourself i'd say just do smaller runs. Just make enough for a week or so at a time. Also applying the 'all your eggs in one basket' saying, if somehow for w/e reason you screw up a run, oh well its only a few grams of errl, not an oz.
[quote name='"AfganiKush"']If for some reason you have to make that much bho at once i would suggest an airtight container. THC degrades much faster in concentrated form. Oxygen is responsible and your drier crumble types start degrading significantly after a few days. I've heard of oil/sap/shatter retaining potency for a few weeks. Your bho won't go bad necessarily, it just loses potency and loses the cerebral intensity of the thc and is overwhelmed by a heavy CBD type high. I think its the the degradation of THC to thc-a or something like that, and an increase in CBN, that changes the high. But for an oz of dry, stable wax i would store it in a mason jar. And for something stickier and less stable probably a tupper-ware container with air tight latches, just so it's easier to scape out of than a glass jar. But if you're making it yourself i'd say just do smaller runs. Just make enough for a week or so at a time. Also applying the 'all your eggs in one basket' saying, if somehow for w/e reason you screw up a run, oh well its only a few grams of errl, not an oz.[/quote] Thanks for the advice. I have kept oil in an open dish for at least a month before without any noticeable changes but I can see how it could degrade over time. That is probably even more prevalent with that amount taking 10-12 months to consume based on my normal usage. Do you have any suggestion on any other forms of concentrate that are more stable over time? It's is much safer for me to do larger runs as I have to leave my house and goto a less populated area. Thanks
Shatter is the best form for long term storage and an airtight container would be ideal. You could probably put it in a few large dishes and store them in half pint mason jars. Store in a cool, dry, dark place.
If your only goal in making a concentrate is to reduce the bulk/odor of your stash then maybe some dry sifted hash would be a more stable/long lasting solution for you. Imo its not nearly as fun as bho to consume but since with dry hash your pulling off the entire trichome instead of stripping the cannabinoids from within as you would with bho it may be less prone to degradation. I'm not sure if this is even accurate, and I may just be talking out of my ass but it seems logical...to me anyway. No matter the form you decide to go with a cool, dark, airtight space is best for storage. E: also if you went this route you wouldn't have to bother with traveling just to make a run, which would probably be more convenient. Or perhaps you could even look at making iso hash in smaller batches, its relatively dabable, not quite as easy to work with as some forms of bho but much more pure than ice water or dry sift hash and you don't have to deal with going outside, just need a fan and an open window! Plus then you could make smaller batches and not have to worry about long term storage and degradation anyway.
[quote name='"OutOnTheTiles"']Shatter is the best form for long term storage and an airtight container would be ideal. You could probably put it in a few large dishes and store them in half pint mason jars. Store in a cool, dry, dark place.[/quote] Refresh my memory but shatter is bho that has been spread thin onto parchment paper and put into the freezer, after the vacuum purge? This may be completely off but that was my basic understanding. Thanks for the reply. [quote name='"USSChallenger"']If your only goal in making a concentrate is to reduce the bulk/odor of your stash then maybe some dry sifted hash would be a more stable/long lasting solution for you. Imo its not nearly as fun as bho to consume but since with dry hash your pulling off the entire trichome instead of stripping the cannabinoids from within as you would with bho it may be less prone to degradation. I'm not sure if this is even accurate, and I may just be talking out of my ass but it seems logical...to me anyway. No matter the form you decide to go with a cool, dark, airtight space is best for storage. E: also if you went this route you wouldn't have to bother with traveling just to make a run, which would probably be more convenient. Or perhaps you could even look at making iso hash in smaller batches, its relatively dabable, not quite as easy to work with as some forms of bho but much more pure than ice water or dry sift hash and you don't have to deal with going outside, just need a fan and an open window! Plus then you could make smaller batches and not have to worry about long term storage and degradation anyway.[/quote] Do you have a link to a dry sift hash tutorial you would recommend? I have seen threads with people talking about blasting sift hash into bho so that would definitely be a good option for me over time. I have seen Bad Kat's guide on making iso and I might give that a shot but I need to do a bit more research. Thanks again.
Shatter has nothing to do with how you purge or handle it. Shatter generally refers to really high quality bho, its called that because really good oil is not an oil at all, its a solid and shatters like glass when you try to pull a dab off. Lower quality oil will look more like, well, oil. Or sometimes grease. The shatter I usually have turns to a crumbly texture after 5 or so vacume purges tho. I usualy store mine folded up in partchment paper, either in one of my boxes or in a mason jar. But I dont store it for months. I just make it a couple grams at a time.
[quote name='"System 7"']Shatter has nothing to do with how you purge or handle it. Shatter generally refers to really high quality bho, its called that because really good oil is not an oil at all, its a solid and shatters like glass when you try to pull a dab off. Lower quality oil will look more like, well, oil. Or sometimes grease. The shatter I usually have turns to a crumbly texture after 5 or so vacume purges tho. I usualy store mine folded up in partchment paper, either in one of my boxes or in a mason jar. But I dont store it for months. I just make it a couple grams at a time.[/quote] Good to know, do you have any good tips or recommend any good tutorials for processing shatter quality BHO? Thanks for the assistance
Oil slick Balls/pad/sheet/duo all work great an now they sell pucks like the one above ..I like the oil slick company, they the real OG's of concentrate handling..
So ok I want to know if I can cook with this bho I make. I see that a lot of peeps are talking about darkness, opaqueness, golden etc (other colors). However what I notice is that my fresh bho when it is a very thin layer on the pyrex is a brilliant beautiful gold color. It only begins to look dark (or black) after it has been gathered up into a ball to put into the silicone storage balls(or pucks). This is to be expected since light does not go threw it, however if you take it out and spread it thin again you will see that it is still the beautiful golden color. If when you first make the bho it comes out "black or opaque" while still in a thin layer on the pyrex then you did something way wrong of used some really lame material to start with !! And I mean really really junk material because I have run some bad, ancient old shakes with "zero" nugs in it and I still have a beautiful golden thin layer of the "GoldenGoo (GG, I call it here)". Now as to the GG losing potency again unless it was horrible junk you started with I have never noticed that it lost any potency if it was kept closed in a silicone ball inside my butter door in the fridge. Remember that what you are doing when blasting is simply removing the oil based "tricones" off of your plant material and removing the fibers & plant matter. All this talk, walk, and expensive purging equipment to me is just another way of raising costs to get high or to get your meds. I am old school and just like "no one..." can fool me with indoor (or hydro) herb as opposed to good old outdoor herb, it is the same with the dab. Its like crack. You can use crappy cut up coke or high quality clean coke it does NOT affect the rock in the end as far as quality. What IS affected is the quantity and possibly the taste if the cut was cheap. Bho is basically the same process, your beginning product will have a far greater effect on your quantity not necessarily the quality of your final product. Ok with all that behind us now I would really appreciate some kitchen advice!!! Can some of you ill folks who bake to ingest your meds and to get the best quality pain relief (to get me high enough to feel no pain is the point). I take it that it is best to mix the bho with an oil to mix it into your baked goods ?? I need to know (please) the best and easiest way to prepare my GG and the amount to use for doseaging. Like how many grams do I need to blend with coconut butter(oil) to add to a normal box of brownie mix or a normal batch of cookies. Or can you just send me any recipes you have come up with so I can start killing the "c" that's killing me as soon as possible. Mahalo nui loa for any and all step by step recipes you can share with me. I have my GoldenGoo all ready I just need to get to baking with your help !! Peace, Health, Happiness.....
Yep parchment and a jar laying on its side works, Im tryong to not make too much BHO and im doing primo bud blast so its nice shatter.
sooo much misinformation in this thread, you should stop trying to give people information on BHO, you clearly dont know much of anything about it.
well in the line you quoted by me there is not one piece of misinformation... facts do not lie. u can use all the insults and fancy scientific words you want to sell your product instead of figuring out the simple truths about a simple process meant for sick people to get better. so excuse the hell outta me for trying to join a group that apparently is more about which nerd knows more words and has spent more money than someone else!! when the facts are simple I am 60, been doing this crap for longer than you probably have been alive. not in some garage but actually in a jungle doing it the way it was meant to be. what I do not know I openly requested some laymans explanations to make some decent edibles to help cure several people I know who are dieing of cancer/etc. and simply do not have the time to look up the definitions of the "scientific mumbo jumbo.." running threw these blogs. I thought they were meant to help not as a means of measuring something you may be a wee be short of ( perhaps actual breathing friends with real serious issues and needing real serious help which I have been doing for free going on 40 years now. So yeah you are probably right <NOT> the blasting process is "not meant to remove the oil based tricones and cb's that carry the curative powers." <AGAIN NOT!!!> Because that is exactly what it does. You probably think that rain washs off tricones on outdoor herb also would be my guess even though water does not mix with oil in this universe!! thank you for formally introducing me to the group and for not helping us out one bit with our simple request on what we do not know and need to learn asap. After all what is important in your little world is being able to anonymously hide MR. CARTER behind negative out of context insults. No worry I will not approach this blog group with requests for help since apparently it is more about which anonymous rooster can crow the loudest in a language only another fluffed up rooster might understand !! Again.. THANK YOU for telling me I don't know anything when that was the ENTIRE POINT of my posting was the admission that I did NOT know something and needed help !!! Of course I can safely assume that you do NOT have a response/answer to our actual request to the point that your very ego was so injured that it just had to wag its tail feathers... I will pass this on to my friends to read the only response I recieved to our request for help in obtaining recipes to help alleviate the pains of their incurable illnesses. Theres one for you to chew on Mr. Carter, you definitely win the award for the most empathetic bedside manner in your very own little personality contest, sadly you were the only contestant !!!
wow you are something else hahahaha wtf are you going on about? I dont even know where to start you are all over the place man lmao you are putting so many words in my mouth, when did this become anything about words?? you dont knock off trichomes during a solvent extraction, you're dissolving the oils thats inside them... therefore what I quoted was not fact, you are going batshit crazy for nothing... lol
unbelievable !!! I say that the butane process is knocking off the tricones and collecting them leaving behind the plant matter and YOU disagree saying that it is taking them off and breaking them down??? You really do not have even a basic grasp of the English language. 2 things 1) learn to comprehend English -- 2) try acting like an adult and answer the question I set to the group (which obviously you can not do).. lol..what a lolo !!! lolo = potatohead (just so u do not think it is me spelling "lol" wrong !!).. Question for you genius since it is called a BLAST and there are no more tricones left on the plant matter after it is done what part of the Blast is knocking them off is wrong?? PLEASE do not attempt to answer dude you truly have already shown the depth of your brains capacity.... lol
comedy There most certainly is trichomes left on your material. You are not knocking them off, this isnt a mechanical extraction like bubble or dry sift. The oils we want are inside the trichomes, surrounded by a wax membrane which,for the most part, is left behind... and dont try and school me on the english language, I can barely decipher your grammar-less wall of text
??? do you even read what you write??? You still say that you are not removing the tricons while they are being "Blasted" off and ripped apart and torn open to remove the waxs and oils inside of them, but they "most certainly are left behind on the plant material?? Dude you really need to either answer the question about recipes that was the point of my post and request, or "stfu.." because you are really beginning to look and sound like the idiot you must be. Let me guess you have like no "real world" friends, you still live with your mommy &/or daddy, and the longest relationship you have ever had is with your palm... your only way out of looking like the fool you are is to say "sorry I do not know any recipes..." . Thanks for the help everyone its nice to know now that this forum is just a place for a small clique of internet buddies to stroke each other off. Speaking of being left behind after being blasted off by a frozen gas under pressure does that include what may possibly be left of your brain cells? Recipes are what I requested for several cancer patients not a speech by a pretend eBay scientist, if you do not have a response to that then why are you posting me???? Grow up and go see if moms got your dinner ready and PJs laid out on the bed for you. Dohhhh.....