Most Intelligent Rap Group?

Discussion in 'Music genres, Bands and Artists' started by Sploojum, Oct 16, 2012.

  1. Discuss the most intelligent rap group to release music.

    Whether it be Wu Tang, Beastie Boys, Taylor Gang, ATCQ, Outkast, whatever, which do you think is the MOST intelligent? Not most successful or popular, but intelligent.

    For me it is a close tie between Tribe Called Quest and Wu Tang.

    I believe that on a lyrical and poetic level, Tribe is superior in all ways. Tribe makes words and lyrics into a 5 star cuisine and dispense it with a perfect attitude and flow. They used words that nobody had thought possible in a rap song, and shined a bright light on the idea of intellectual hip hop music.

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NaIDj6vBEoU]Buggin' Out by A Tribe Called Quest - YouTube[/ame]

    Wu Tang, however, is incredibly smart on a spiritual and emotional level (particularly RZA, GZA, GFK, and Inspectah Deck) and seem to just emit knowledge from every song they release. Wisdom can be sought and found in their albums.

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKpIkOXgAmg]GZA feat. Killah Priest - B.I.B.L.E. (Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth) + Lyrics - YouTube[/ame]

    I'll let you decide on which group you think is the most intelligent, keep in mind it can be any rap group you listen to, just provide reasoning (unless it is obvious).

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  2. Cunninglynguists gotta be up there!

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9TAzc54IEo]Cunninlynguists Ft. Tonedeff - Love Ain't *Lyrics - YouTube[/ame]
    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Puk1ze_AHPk&feature=related]CunninLynguists- Don't Leave Me ft. Slug - YouTube[/ame]
    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKanlj4tRE4&feature=related]CunninLynguists - Beautiful Girl - YouTube[/ame]
    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHX-v5hlecs&feature=related]CunninLynguists - The light - YouTube[/ame]
     
  3. #3 BlazeLE, Oct 16, 2012
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    deltron 3030 comprised of del the funky homosapien, dan the automator, and DJ kid koala. new album dropping in november, im so psyched.

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7_jbluF0qo]Deltron 3030 - 3030 - YouTube[/ame]

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5aocYRShXM]Deltron 3030 - Mastermind - YouTube[/ame]

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eNrABE2eYk[/ame]

    also aesop rock but im he's solo

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEBGCOCxLgA[/ame]

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dd_W_x3nclY[/ame]

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdG4mvCgzjo[/ame]

    this one was unreleased it, was a bonus on an album. im guessing he prefered anti-social because they both use "must not sleep, must warn others." personally i prefer it to anti-social. but they're both awesome.
    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7snfXC4mJ0[/ame]
     

  4. The Cunninlynguists for their superb production and lyrics that cease to amaze me. They have very unique sounding music and style and that confuses people, I think it is fucking great. Very emotional sounding music, they used to be one of my favorites (still are I guess). They also adress issues and there is nothing I enjoy more then seeing art (music, painting, whatever) used to make a difference or impact. Thoughts?

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  5. #5 Sploojum, Oct 16, 2012
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    Mastermind is and will always be one of my favorite songs, in fact I was listening to it less than 30 minutes ago.

    3030 was always hauntingly smooth and beautiful to me. I've only heard Time Keeps on Slipping a few times but its good as well.

    Not a group, but here is one of my favorite Del tracks that he did with Aesop Rock:

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7vSzgDhF3Y]aesop rock feat del tha funkee homosapien - preservation - YouTube[/ame]

    Del is a master on the mic and Aesop makes clunky words sound sooo good.

    Deltron 3030 is definitely a good one.

    EDIT: Whoah I posted the Del+Aesop song before you even mentioned Aesop :eek: Great minds think alike ammirigighhhttttt? No I'm probably wrong... But we both like the same music

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  6. #6 BlazeLE, Oct 16, 2012
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    holy shit he did a colab with aesop??? i havent listened yet but i think it has to become one of my all time favorite tracks. i mean they are my top 2 favorite rappers.
     

  7. Hell yeah man I love their sounds, they definitely hit on deeper emotions of life that's why I like it so much! First heard that first song Love Ain't on a Pandora station and I had one of those high life-changing revelations to music hahaha... :hello: anyways after that I googled them and listened to a bunch of songs on youtube and added their music to my Pandora stations, so they've been in my life a while now.. definitely feel like they've been a strong positive factor in my own growth :smoke:


    Individual lyricists, I think of Talib Kweli, Guru, definitely Tupac if we're talking intelligence and biting lyrics..
     

  8. Yea man it is totally a good track.

    Its done to a beat that sound VERY similar to Eminem's "Crack a Bottle" however I'm pretty sure this was released like many years before...

    But this song was done for an album focused on Indie culture rap and its blend with more traditional rap and it was produced by the same guy who produced a lot for Wu Tang. It was sold and distributed under a Wu Tang title as like "Think Differently Music"

    Its a pretty good fucking album, got MF DOOM and a lot of Wu Tang members on it.

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  9. Blackalicious is a good one..
     
  10. #11 BlazeLE, Oct 16, 2012
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    i forgot doomtree

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toELT1uWDKU]Doomtree "Drumsticks" Music Video - YouTube[/ame]

    which leads me to my 3rd favorite rapper P.O.S. who is part of doomtree.

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JHbUuWzVNE]P.O.S - Purexed - YouTube[/ame]

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPCcf4XNeOg]P.O.S - Never Better - YouTube[/ame]

    ft. Dessa
    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LL5Wh4gnzyo]POS-Low Light Low Life - YouTube[/ame]

    this is from his new album that drops this month (deltron 3030 and P.O.S. in the same year???? Whaaaaa!)
    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FY6VcJR2PE]P.O.S - Fuck Your Stuff - YouTube[/ame]
     
  11. Dude you have got to be fucking kidding me I am obsessed with P.O.S

    Did somebody just like infuse the same music in our brains or some shit while we were sleeping?

    What in the actual fuck. Purexed was like my fucking anthem last month all my friends got sick of it, I played it too much.

    But really what the fuck stop stop knowing all my favorite music you psychic bastard.

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  12. Cunninlynguists for sure!

    I like CYNE a lot too
     

  13. great minds think alike bro!
     

  14. Must be the case because you have yet to post any music I don't like.

    Anybody else have thoughts on intelligent rap groups? I'm surprised nobody has mentioned Run DMC, Beastie Boys, Outkast...

    I mean was it not Run DMC in the 80's that made most of this other music possible? Just my thoughts on it.

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  15. #16 BlazeLE, Oct 16, 2012
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    oh shit cant forget people under the stairs

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhBuAxprWDI]People under the stairs - acid raindrops - YouTube[/ame]

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-1GfHOO_8c&feature=related]All Good Things - People Under the Stairs - YouTube[/ame]

    and MF Doom

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewc1hixzYPY]Madvillain - All Caps - YouTube[/ame]

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRHyBwNtkLA&feature=related]MF Doom - Doomsday - YouTube[/ame]

    and dilated peoples

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sevZEOUXpw4]"Worst Comes To Worst" Dilated Peoples - YouTube[/ame]


    now nujabes was a producer but the rappers he had were really good and im pretty sure everyone in this thread will enjoy nujabes' work.

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5-2-jD-42Q]Nujabes-Feather - YouTube[/ame]

    no lyrics but its fucking awesome none the less.
    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUwRGPxCG_Y]Nujabes - Aruarian Dance - YouTube[/ame]

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-tTmSY4m4M]Nujabes - Counting Stars - YouTube[/ame]

    he did a lot of the music in samurai champloo (including the theme) which is one of the only animes i watched and i fucking loved it.

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OobUV9q0aDA]Battlecry- Nujabes - YouTube[/ame]

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtuoEtohPv4&feature=related]Nujabes- Mystline [Full Version] - YouTube[/ame]
     
  16. #17 BlazeLE, Oct 16, 2012
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    personally im not a huge fan of Runs style. not saying they arent amazing but its not for me. same with beasty boys, i love chill hip hop.

    plus you listed them in the OP.

    but easily my favorite outkast song has to be crumblin' erb
    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Q5Hl6mc8iM]OutKast - Crumblin' Erb - YouTube[/ame]
     
  17. #18 Sploojum, Oct 16, 2012
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    Now your just looking through my iTunes you dirty bastard.

    WHAT IN THE FUCK I LOVE PUTS, MF DOOM, AND NUJABES.

    I'm so dumbfounded. Like I don't even know if I'm being fucked with because it is all music I like. I mean really what.

    WHAT.

    EDIT: Somebody needs to mention Madvillain or DANGERDOOM. I would be the one to do it but I r lazy.
     
  18. #19 Sploojum, Oct 16, 2012
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    Back on topic...

    Nobody has mentioned Odd future? I mean they aren't geniuses or anything but I know for a FACT some people think Tyler is God and Earl is definitely a God on the mic.

    Nobody has even mentioned them yet? Oh well, I guess I just did...

    Tyler has some really dark and meaningful lyrics but I think that he has a good point when he expresses the idea of hidden emotions and thoughts we all have just choose not to share. He is definitely a smart guy and pretty funny as well I am just not a fan of his music (anymore)

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHX8X3wp9Q4"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHX8X3wp9Q4[/ame]

    He seems very satirical and secretly genius to me. Kind of like Marilyn Manson almost, he just knows how to play with people and knows what will get a rise out of people. Just my input though.

    I guess Tyler is the only truly smart one though because the others don't show much promise. Not that I don't like them, they all just seem pretty average on intelligence level (Don't quote me on that I could be very tragically wrong)

    Not my favorite group by any means but definitely somewhat intelligent...

    :smoke:
     

  19. i cant stand tyler the creator...
     

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