Hey blades! One of the latest 'innovations' in indoor growing was recently presented in the October 2012 High Times magazine. The theory is that plants planted outside have a higher tolerance for heat and lack of water due to their 'connectedness' to the earth, or their ability to release 'free radicals' and radiation intothe earth, thus keeping the plant free to grow vigorously. We are always on the lookout for ways to improve our grows and while most new ideas are either rebottled old ones or outright scams many have been proven to be beneficial. Usually they involve us shelling out money in some way or another and this idea is no different except that it is much less than the usual snake oil. Here at GC, on another thread Grounding Plants With Ground Wire (DIY EARTHANDGROW) one of our members has taken it on himself by starting a DIY version which can be put together for less than 30 USD (versus 50 for EG home kit). An EG rep came on and reported that they had done independent tests that resulted in INCREASED THC! (think UV-B all over again). This is what they had to say: "We just received our first independent test on THC and CBD from Know Your Grow Labs www.knowyourgrow.co . 2 different strains grown exactly the same way with and without Earth & Grow. The plants using Earth & Grow were only plugged in for their last 4 weeks of flower: Strain 1 control: 10.8 THC .37 CBD Strain 1 E&G: 12.9 THC 1.01 CBD Strain 2 control: 13.79 THC .38 CBD Strain 2 E&G: 15.46 THC .97 CBD" Bold claims! I pulled out my multi-meter and plugged it in to my ladies as per [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiSQEKDfdY4"]Electrical Engineer shows how EG works[/ame] and low and behold there is some residual 'radiation' in the pots. Of course, whether this is harmful is a whole other issue EG hasn't talked much about. Two guys run the company up in Rhode Island. They apparently spent 4 years testing and perfecting (their rather simple and easily duplicable) product, smacked a label on it and are even selling it on amazon. Here is a link to the original HT article for anyone interested in reading more about it: Electrify Your Plants It is affordable enough for trials so I will be attempting a DIY version similar to the ones described in the original GC thread and one over on RIU. Any one else going to try this?
I think thats highly subjective. Excess energy discharges actually do not go that far. If you were to take readings of the huge power lines that are pulling mega amounts of juice the readings drop to almost zero as you move just a couple dozen feet away from it. Directly under the power source the energy readings are very high. Its sorta like UVB. My LED has T8 UVB built in. Im still not sold on if its doing anything. Ive had it off for grows and on for some. Nothing different really in either.
Lol, from the title I thought this thread was about punishing your plants by not letting them leave the house, watch tv, or use the computer.
[quote name='"draketimer"']wouldnt jus hooking up a copper wire from your plant, to your ground section of your socket do this?[/quote] Thats what I was thinking, but of course EG is saying otherwise. This, is from their website: "Through our process of testing many different materials and prototypes since 2008, we have determined the best metals and components to be used when reconnecting plants to the Earth. Grounding plants can be achieved by using a variety of metals and wire, but not all combinations are created equal. We have learned that there can be dramatic differences in the effectiveness of this technology and with some component choices and combinations actually having a negative effect. Simply reconnecting your plants to ground with any ol' metal will not achieve the best results"
[quote name='"roostaphant"']Lol, from the title I thought this thread was about punishing your plants by not letting them leave the house, watch tv, or use the computer.[/quote] Haha! I was actually hoping the ambiguous title might attract people but there hasnt been much of a response. The home kit is 50 usd. Thinking of trying it just for shits and giggles.
That just seems like a ploy to dissuade you from trying to build your own. They want you to buy their china metal one.
[quote name='"cousined"']That just seems like a ploy to dissuade you from trying to build your own. They want you to buy their china metal one.[/quote] It is at least made in the USA, but I agree. However, there was and still is a lot of naysayers about LED technology and with my new light I am simply blown away by the results. It would take me 20 -30 usd to get good copper wire and a plug so thinking I could spring for theirs at an extra 20. Just wish the electrical engineers and electricians would get on here and give their 2cents.
Well EC is used to determine nute strength in hydro yeah? I use ppm but ..... thats electrical conductivity right? Ground in your hydro res?
[quote name='"cousined"']Well EC is used to determine nute strength in hydro yeah? I use ppm but ..... thats electrical conductivity right? Ground in your hydro res?[/quote] This works better it seems in soil mediums but their Site says they are designing one for true hydro and aquaponics. I'm in coco and am unsure if it will work as they say it will. Good point cousined
[quote name='"indica2"']I dont want to rain on Earth & Grows parade but I read the article in Oct 2012 High Times and they claim they "invented" this technology which is a bunch of nonsense. They even go on to say "we were overwhelmed with the results and possibilities of our discovery". Earthing or grounding is nothing new, Clint Ober author of "Earthing, The most important health discovery ever?" discovered over 12 years ago that plugging your body (and your plants, pets) to ground either through walking barefoot on the earth or being connected to a grounding mat or sheet through a properly grounded outlet is very beneficial to your health including greatly reduced inflammation, improved blood viscosity, reduced heart rate, reduced anxiety, more energy, etc.. It really works, I've been grounding myself and plants for over 6 years and feel much much healthier as a result. You can use a digital multimeter to measure the effect grounding has, normally sitting in front of a computer your body (or a plant) will measure upwards of 2-3,000 millivolts which is very unhealthy and can lead to fatigue, headaches as well as other health problems, if you have a grounding cord or mat near your computer you can bring the reading down to ~0 effectively sheilding your body from the harmful emf's being produced. On plants it produces some amazing results, stronger, healthier plants that require less fertilizer, more resistant to pests, diseases and stresses. If you are handy you can pick up everything you need to ground several plants from Home Depot & a resistor from Radio shack for a couple of dollars. I'm not knocking Earth & Grow and applaud them for bringing out their product. It just bothers me when people try to make themselves look like a genius and take credit for someone elses work. So yes you have a good product but no you didnt "invent" it. For more information just google "earthing" or "grounding plants" etc. Clint Ober's site is: EarthingInstitute.net which has many good studies and his book is a great read for those interested.[/quote] This was posted in another thread and felt it appropriate to post here as well!
I was wondering if this would work in a Hempy bucket with 100% perlite... I don't have anything set up right now (had to take it all down due to security reasons), but when I get a new place I may give this a shot. $50 isn't too much of an investment if it truly helps the grow. Plus it's reusable, so it'll pay for itself eventually..
AnonMarijuana Posted on facebook the album Marijuana Mating October 23 · Under the picture of wires sticking into the grow bags is the explanation: Grounding plants to earth ground via house electrical wiring is essential in producing enlightened plants that communicate with Gaia spirit energy. Growin on a shoe-string, or I'd sill be a dream growin ding a ling. Kathryn Haskell asks: What The Heck?! AnonMarijuana responds: Google "earth grounding plants" You will discover it is good for humans too. And here is a good article quick read: Grounding your plants - Advanced... FORUM.GRASSCITY.COM Like · Reply Kathryn Haskell says: Oddly enough, I now have a strange desire to rub a balloon on my head and go touch my plants... Like · Reply · AnonMarijuana thanks you Kathryn Haskell for your input. It goes further than you might expect. This page, the notes and photos have been a process of me catching up with my past. As I get the whole picture developed, I realize I have to go back and fill in some details. I'm working on my introduction video now. Grounding plants is one topic I will be discussing in more detail in my Youtube video #2. Two buddies of mine are marketing a plant grounding device. They got the idea from me and my crew. I've been doing it 20 years. The plants were able to communicate with me that they needed it before it even became knowledgeable to me through public channels. Their device costs like 30$ and grounds a couple plants. I gave them my blessing and said it would sell, because it's not a gimmick. Me and my people, we just use assorted wire, wire nuts, and an electrical plug with the positive prong removed. It's cheap and just as safe and more durable than the product available on the consumer market. I consult about 20 growers, no one has any doubt of its benefits. The wires you see sticking into the plant pots are simply connected to the ground plug in an electrical outlet. The ground plug, in a round about way, makes its way to a metal pole stuck in the ground. One thing mother earth energy does for the plants is it eliminates the electrical interference from light and equipment. This and many benefits including increasing cellular wall thickness is all proven. It's not theory. As far as shocking your plants with static electricity, I had to meditate on that with the plants. In the past have you rubbed a balloon on your head and chased little children to try and shock them as they run in horror screeching like little children do? The plants told me if they could run at such a folly they would. They are uncomfortable with this idea. So I would not do it, I had to assure them in their slight panic. They asked me, "Where do you find these people who think of such things"? On the internet I said in my mind, as I telepathically sent them the pictures so they would understand. They explained in their own way how the internet is like their earth-net. That in being grounded to earth they are able to communicate with anything that touches it. This fills the plants with insight and wisdom and spirit going back before the dawn of time. This spirit is what the plants share with us when we ingest them in one form or another. Plants that are not grounded are in effect retarded when compared to grounded plants, a person who is tuned in well enough would notice. Their messages take time to interpret, yet come from a dimension where time does not exist. In order for me to receive their pictures and message I must slow down and stop time in this dimension. Not everyone can do this because of distractions such as expectations, and external word and social games. Grounding plants is a basic topic in plant psychology 101 - Video project #2. As far as amping up with a balloon rub through the hair and shocking them with static electricity, it's not something I would do. OG 👽 [alien emoji] Ten minutes later AnonMarijuana aannounces "Welcome to my grow class. I likes students with a little sass. Speak up. Ask questions. We all learn more this way. I will be collecting a few basics to put in a note today. Our exchange here with Kathryn Haskell inspired this. Thank you. Stay tuned for more. I'm sure you didn't know what to expect when walking through that door." While sending smiles in every direction, thinking how this sort of activity gives him an erection ♥
Man, you must be smoking the GOOD shit! Got any peer reviewed scientific evidence to back up the claim highlighted in blue?
it must be time to ground my plants because i could really use some head meds like that as well. although we would proably have better luck growing Psilocybe at the base of our plants.
I was actually just reading on this, if you break off the prongs to a plug and leave the ground, you can plug it into a power strip, strip doesn't even have to be on(ground is always grounded if it's plugged in) and run primary wire to something long enough to reach down into your pots into the root system it should work famously, I've been curious for a while, think I'm going to do my own side by side