Before research had been done into the benefits of medical marijuana, the only real reason with any scientific evidence to steer clear of pot was it's link between schizophrenia, especially in families that have had previous experience with it. Now I didn't really pay attention to that cause might as well take some risks in life and blaze the bud while you still can. My question is, isn't the government looking a bit ''silly'', saying that marijuana can now be legalized and they're fine with patients smoking it everyday, when their once was so much 'empirical evidence' telling society to steer clear of it (the main point i'm regarding is schizophrenia)? I'm wondering if the authorities are just going to ignore all the propaganda they once spread to keep their reputation.
I can picture them forcing surgeon general warnings that say "if inhaling this product through combustion your risk of lung cancer is slight."
but there's actually quite a few studies out recently stating marijuana has nothing to do with any forms of cancer and may actually be the key to treating it?
marijuana does not cause schizophrenia but rather it can trigger it. the person smoking/vaping/eating marijuana may become schizophrenic if they have it in their genes. and on another note, yes, marijuana may have anti-cancer properties but smoking negates those properties. smoking is bad for your health, and smoking plant matter allows carcinogens to enter your body. i read that only edibles (didn't mention vaping) will carry the anti-cancer benefit.
Deuro has it right, I believe. If your genes have the susceptibility to schizoid disorders, the rapid increase in neurotransmitters(epinephrine, nor epinephrine, and dopamine) may cause mania or even schizophrenia.
cannabis itself might not cause cancer but how you use it might. If you roll it in tobacco paper then you're still at risk. If you smoke it out of a pipe then you might at risk for throat or tongue cancer.
[quote name='"Deuro"']marijuana does not cause schizophrenia but rather it can trigger it. the person smoking/vaping/eating marijuana may become schizophrenic if they have it in their genes. and on another note, yes, marijuana may have anti-cancer properties but smoking negates those properties. smoking is bad for your health, and smoking plant matter allows carcinogens to enter your body. i read that only edibles (didn't mention vaping) will carry the anti-cancer benefit.[/quote] Smoking marijuana isn't bad for your health [quote name='"420 Medical"'] cannabis itself might not cause cancer but how you use it might. If you roll it in tobacco paper then you're still at risk. If you smoke it out of a pipe then you might at risk for throat or tongue cancer.[/quote] Smoking out of a pipe won't give you throat or tongue cancer It's the only slight argument they have ..... Pills have their side affect thoughts of suicide liver damage Tobacco Throat lung cancer Alcohol Related accidents Esophagus and liver damage Weed some may get it but what about it
Only 1% of the population is susceptible to schizophrenia, so only one in a hundred weed smokers might get schizophrenia. I think schizophrenia gets a bad rap though. I have it and live a normal life thanks to meds. If I want a more psychadelic existence I can stop taking my meds. Pretty cool options if you ask me. There are worse conditions in this world like greed and blind conformity.
Yes, well, that's a matter of your opinion. Doesn't mean it's right. Smoking is harmful to your body. Case closed.
If marijuana caused schizophrenia ALOT more than 1% of the world population would be schizophrenic. Think about the amount of people who smoke. The numbers don't add up. "scientific evidence to steer clear of pot was it's link between schizophrenia" There was never any real evidence to prove this.
[quote name='"Basquedude"']I dont beleive in mental illness[/quote] Then you my friend are very ignorant and possibly very stupid
[quote name='"Deuro"'] Yes, well, that's a matter of your opinion. Doesn't mean it's right. Smoking is harmful to your body. Case closed.[/quote] Not opinion. Plenty of studies that shows smokin moderately can increase lung function. And is still shown to have anti cancer effects even when smoked. Not many cases at all of lung throat or tonge cancer caused by marijuana smoking alone.
Maybe in your lungs yes. But if cannabinoids are indeed healing the damage caused by smoking cannabis, the rest of your body is still benefiting from it. Its not as if cannabinoids enter your lungs and don't go to every other inch of your body.
saw this thought it was interesting (not stating this as a fact its just interesting-so dont jump down my throat)... FORCES - THE EVIDENCE - World's Oldest--All Smokers WORLD'S OLDEST -- ALL SMOKERS [SIZE=-1](Original compilation by Wanda Hamilton)[/SIZE] Says who that smoking kills? Good habits such as smoking are the secret of good life – In spite of the drumming propaganda, every record of super-longevity belongs to smokers. Here is the case of Zhang Shuqing, a centenarian in Pixian, Sichuan, China, turned 100 on May 7, and who “buried†his own daughter – probably a non smoker! – eight years ago. Jokes aside, one is to think and really ponder on this. Record-setters of longevity are ALL smokers with a lot of other “bad†habits: Zhang also eats like a pig, including a daily bowl of pork fat! A paradox? Hold on: what is a paradox? Something contrary to scientifically established facts, or contrary to BELIEFS passed as scientific facts? Let's face it: if smoking were such a “bad†habit Zhang and so many like him would not be here to prove the opposite, would they? The Big 115: another ancient smoker has a birthday party - August 28, 2006 -A reader tipped us off to this story of the ex-smoker, never-drinker who was already six when the U.S. seized Puerto Rico from Spain in 1898. "I never damaged my body with liquor," said Mercado, who quit a 76-year smoking habit when he was 90. Happy birthday, Mr. Mercado del Toro! The tobacco death toll - February 26, 2003 - Mercilessly, tobacco keeps harvesting an endless number of premature victims. Day after day millions of cigarettes are produced by criminals who KNOW that each and every one of their customers will DIE – and there is no escape, and no more unquestionable truth: if you smoke, you die. This is the case of the late John McMorran, of Lakeland, Florida. He smoked cigars, drank beer and ate greasy food –and now he has paid the dear price for a life turned that stands as an insult to the health crusaders. John was born June 19, 1889, in a log cabin in Michigan, and he was the oldest American living – but he could have lived longer. And that is not all; it is well known that smoking causes blindness and ear problems. In fact, “McMorran's eyesight failed in his final years, and people needed to shout for him to hear them.†What a waste. This is what tobacco does to you. May this epitaph stand as warning to the young, so that they learn to NEVER make John's mistakes, and turn into statistical deaths. The Italian Massacre - February 26, 2003 - In the meantime, we get a full dimension of what tobacco does to people in other countries as well. The Italian daily “Libero†has just reported updates on the Tobacco Massacre of Milan last February 6th. Out of a population of 2.2 million in that city, there are 646 people whose lives will, inevitably, be cut short – shortly after they turn 100. Two of them are already 110, five are 109 and 12 are 106. Another 217 are only 100, 167 just turned 101, and 115 are 102. But that's not over. Over 35,000 Milanese are in the age range between 85 and 94, and another 92,000 are between 75 and 84. You can see them in the polluted Italian city with their dogs, in the typical little bars, indulging in despicable habits such as coffee, grease-filled brioches, alcohol and – worst of all – smoking Tuscan cigars that stink more than any diesel tailpipe, poisoning their peers. Some of them even “do†cigarettes, having indulged in the deadly habit for over 94 years. Imagine how dirty their lungs are. According to the daily, in fact, the overwhelming majority of these people either smokes, drinks, or eats fatty foods. Most even do it all. No wonder the heroic health authorities must intervene to stop the carnage. It's either now or never! Tobacco Claims Two More - The Philippines lost one of that country's most prolific and beloved composers and lyricists. Levi Celerio, who wrote the lyrics for more than 4,000 folk, Christmas and love songs, died after a bout of emphysema. Obituaries noted that Mr. Celerio was a chain smoker. He was 91. He is survived by his third wife and the 12 children he managed to father despite the impotence caused by tobacco. From the other side of the world, the United Kingdom morns the death of Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth, The Queen Mother. The mother of Queen Elizabeth II, the Queen Mother was a bon vivant who loved horse racing, gin cocktails and, sadly, cigarettes. It was the latter, the beastly coffin nails, that did her in. She was 101 years old. Television Pioneer's Life Cut Short - "His trademark cigar rarely left his hand. In an interview two years ago, Berle said he'd smoked cigars since he was 12. "I figure if George Burns can smoke 20 cigars a day his whole life and live to be 100, why should I worry if they're bad for me?" We note the passing of Milton Berle with sadness and anger at a creative life cut short by excessive tobacco use. Mr. Berle died Wednesday from colon cancer. He was 93. Smoking Kills Famous Director - Succumbing to a life time of smoking, Hollywood director Billy Wilder died Wednesday at the age of 95. The 6-time Oscar winner directed such classics as "Some Like It Hot" and "Sunset Boulevard". His 1955 movie "The Seven Year Itch" made a contemporary icon of Marilyn Monroe's pose over a New York subway vent. The premature deaths of these two well-known victims of tobacco give added urgency to the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation's campaign to eliminate smoking from movies. Once smoking is banished from the silver screen, the focus can be shifted to the people who make and star in the movies the movies. The carnage must be halted. Television Pioneer's Life Cut Short - "His trademark cigar rarely left his hand. In an interview two years ago, Berle said he'd smoked cigars since he was 12. "I figure if George Burns can smoke 20 cigars a day his whole life and live to be 100, why should I worry if they're bad for me?" We note the passing of Milton Berle with sadness and anger at a creative life cut short by excessive tobacco use. Mr. Berle died Wednesday from colon cancer. He was 93. Gregorio Fuentes - Cut Down By Tobacco Before His Time - Gregorio Fuentes, who skippered Ernest Hemingway's fabled fishing boat, the Pilar, for more than 20 years and is said to have been the writer's inspiration for the embattled fisherman in "The Old Man and the Sea," has died. He was 104. Fuentes died of cancer Sunday at his home in Cojimar, the quiet Cuban fishing village about 10 miles east of Havana where Hemingway used to dock the Pilar. Smoking until the end, Fuentes is sad proof that tobacco kills. John Berry - John Berry, a rugged-faced pipe smoker, a stage and movie director, writer and actor who made more than 50 films and, entangled in the blacklist, exiled himself from Hollywood during the anti-Communist inquests of the 1950s, died Nov. 29, 1999 at his home in Paris. He was 82. Another premature, tobacco-related death, no doubt. We are not kidding. Every smoker who dies is logged as a tobacco-related death to beef up mortality statistics and imply that those who don't smoke are either immortal, or live much longer lives. And when they die (…sorry, IF they die) they are not logged as a tobacco-related deaths even if they died of the identical diseases of smokers. … How else do you think that the anti-tobacco cartel builds up its statistical garbage about the "smoking epidemic?" [SIZE=-1] Isabella Gibson ready to celebrate her 99th - Another smoker approaches one century of life. Gambling, smoking, and enjoying life does not seem to have cut short the life of this person, though she will certainly be logged as yet another "premature, tobacco-related death" by the crooked statistics desing to create numbers proving the Lie of the Century. Isabella seems to be still in good health, notwithstanding osteoporosis (smoking-related, no doubt). Happy birthday, Isabella -- and keep on smokin'! [/SIZE] [SIZE=-1] Wencelao Moreno: another victim bites the dust - It's with extreme sadness that we report the sad demise of Wencelao Moreno of a smoking related illness. Mr. Moreno, better known as "Senor Wences" of the "Ed Sullivan Show" was 103. During the benighted era when ash resided in ash trays rather than dictating policy in Washington, Senor Wences joked, drank and smoked with his puppets on T.V. All his puppets died of secondhand smoke decades ago. Although his premature passing is sad, his death is warning to us all that smoking kills. [/SIZE] [SIZE=-1] Mme Jeanne Calment, who was listed as the world's oldest human whose birth date could be certified, died at 122. She had begun smoking as a young woman. At 117 she quit smoking (by that age she was just smoking two or three cigarettes per day because she was blind and was too proud to ask often for someone to light her cigarettes for her). But she resumed smoking when she was 118 because, as she said, not smoking made her miserable and she was too old to be made miserable. She also said to her doctor: "Once you've lived as long as me, only then can you tell me not to smoke." Good point! [USA Today, "Way to go, champ," 10/18/95].[/SIZE] [SIZE=-1] When Mme. Calment died at 122 in l997, the new longevity champ became 116-year-old Marie-Louise Meilleur, of Canada. Mme. Meilleur had chain-smoked all her adult life (as her grandson said, "She always had a cigarette dangling from her lips as she worked,"--AP, 8/15/97, reported in Miami Herald, p. 2A). She did give up smoking, however, when she was nearly 100.[/SIZE] [SIZE=-1] The world's oldest man is (unless he has died since the last report I have, which is l997) Christian Mortensen, ll4 in l997,who has been a cigar smoker for most of his life--and still smokes them. [San Francisco Chronicle, "114 and Still Smoking," Peter Fimrite, 8/5/97, p.A13].[/SIZE] [SIZE=-1] Britain's oldest man, George Cook, died at 108 in his sleep in September, l997. He "smoked heavily for 85 years before giving up tobacco at the age of 97," ("World Briefs," Houston Chronicle, 9/29/97).[/SIZE] [SIZE=-1] The Scottish Daily Record (12/15/97) reported on Ivy Leighton, 100, who smoked 20 cigarettes a day for 84 years, but cut down somewhat after her 100th birthday. April claimed smoking was the key to her long life.[/SIZE] [SIZE=-1] There are two men who claim to be the world's oldest living humans, but their birth dates cannot be certified. One is Ali Mohammed Hussein, who claimed to be 135, of Lebanon. He "smokes like a chimney," but does not drink alcohol [CNN World News, "Born in l862," Brent Sadler, 5/13/l997].[/SIZE] [SIZE=-1] The title is also claimed by Narayan Chaudhari, a Nepalese man who says he is 141. However, his birth date also cannot be certified. He too is a heavy smoker and says the secret of his longevity is "raw tobacco and no alcohol." [Nando net, Agence France-Press, "Nepalese man claims to be 141, which would make him world's oldest", 2/12/98].[/SIZE] Weed definitely wont make you mental either.. id be fucked if this was the case and im not as far as i know just bought a house and work and home life are all a ok so-!...
[quote name='"Deuro"']marijuana does not cause schizophrenia but rather it can trigger it. the person smoking/vaping/eating marijuana may become schizophrenic if they have it in their genes. and on another note, yes, marijuana may have anti-cancer properties but smoking negates those properties. smoking is bad for your health, and smoking plant matter allows carcinogens to enter your body. i read that only edibles (didn't mention vaping) will carry the anti-cancer benefit.[/quote] In regards to cancer you couldn't be more wrong, smoking weed does not take away the anti cancer benefit. There's studies that concluded marijuana smoke contains no carcinogens, while inhaling burnt plant matter isn't the best for you as it contains a bunch of resin, that resin itself is non carcinogenic. So its very unlike the tar that accumulates in your lungs from cigarettes. Also vaping is as safe as an edible IMO. Your only heating the thc til it boils off into a vapor your not combusting anything, so just cannaboids going in the bag or whip which are medicinal.
so far, only a few responses i find worth reading. no offense, but posting a shit ton of links to websites you skimmed is not making a point, it's making a wall of text that i'll skip over. creativeshroome's response is more than enough to satiate me.
[quote name='"Deuro"']so far, only a few responses i find worth reading. no offense, but posting a shit ton of links to websites you skimmed is not making a point, it's making a wall of text that i'll skip over. creativeshroome's response is more than enough to satiate me.[/quote] Lol ignore facts and studies. Listen to random Stoners. Logic.