Best of the Best, Organic Soil Blend with Amendments

Out of the following ingredients, what would be the best soil base blend and amendments I could use for very happy girls? Right now I am using amended Foxfarm Ocean Forest, but I dont really like the drainage rate and I think the soil came with aphids... I would love to hear from you about your blend ratios, which of the ingredients are an absolute MUST, and which ones could be left out/ignored....

GO!



-Coco coir
-Sphagnum peat moss
-Pumice
-Gypsum
-Dolomite Lime
-Earth worm castings
-Humus
-Mushroom compost
-Organic compost
-Alfalfa meal
-Soy bean meal
-Flax seed meal
-Brown rice powder
-Kelp meal
-Bat guano & seabird guano blends [9-3-1, 5-9-4, and 0-9-0]
-Neem seed meal
-Oyster shell powder
-Black gold
-Yucca
-Epsom salts
-Azomite
-Fish bone meal
-Fish hydrolysate
-Langbeinite
-Lignite
-Black/soft rock phosphate
-Greensand
-Dry/Blackstrap Molasses
-Cal Mag
-Glacial rock dust
-Mycorrhizae powder
-Supplemental probiotic spores/cultures

I plan on watering with AACT once during veg and once during flower, is this enough to boost the microherd? Should I do it more frequently? All other waterings will be with regular tap water. [Should I dechlorinate and/or pH the tap water?]

2.0 cf -Coco coir
3.8 cf -Sphagnum peat moss
2-4 cf -Pumice
8 cups-Gypsum
5 cups -Dolomite Lime
1.0 cf -Earth worm castings
-Humus
-Mushroom compost
1.0 cf -Organic compost
10 cups -Alfalfa meal
-Soy bean meal
-Flax seed meal
-Brown rice powder
7 cups -Kelp meal
-Bat guano & seabird guano blends [9-3-1, 5-9-4, and 0-9-0]
10 cups -Neem seed meal
10 cups -Oyster shell powder
this is just a brand? -Black gold
good for wetting the peat moss -Yucca
5 cups -Epsom salts
8 cups -Azomite
10 cups -Fish bone meal
add to ACT -Fish hydrolysate
-Langbeinite
-Lignite
5 cups -Black/soft rock phosphate
-Greensand
add to ACT -Dry/Blackstrap Molasses
-Cal Mag
5 cups -Glacial rock dust
add to root hole in pot -Mycorrhizae powder
-Supplemental probiotic spores/cultures

just ratios off my head, you can go from there, dont need exact meausurements so thats like the jist of it.


theres a million threads on this subject on here, look around and you will learn a lot. one tea for veg and one for flower is good, you can do more if you feel like it but dont need to. you dont need to ph water. if your tap water is high in chlorine and bad stuff then let it sit or dechlorinate.

Here's what I use........

I use:

-roots/ffof as base
-coco coir
-mycorrhizae
-bat/PSB guano
-alfalfa meal
-kelp meal
-greensand
-mycos spores
-garden lime

I have happy plants.

I'd only put stuff like green sand and the bat guanos if your gonna use your soil for a long time, don't get me wrong their good ammendments they just take a while to break down

2.0 cf -Coco coir
3.8 cf -Sphagnum peat moss
2-4 cf -Pumice
8 cups-Gypsum
5 cups -Dolomite Lime
1.0 cf -Earth worm castings
-Humus
-Mushroom compost
1.0 cf -Organic compost
10 cups -Alfalfa meal
-Soy bean meal
-Flax seed meal
-Brown rice powder
7 cups -Kelp meal
-Bat guano & seabird guano blends [9-3-1, 5-9-4, and 0-9-0]
10 cups -Neem seed meal
10 cups -Oyster shell powder
this is just a brand? -Black gold
good for wetting the peat moss -Yucca
5 cups -Epsom salts
8 cups -Azomite
10 cups -Fish bone meal
add to ACT -Fish hydrolysate
-Langbeinite
-Lignite
5 cups -Black/soft rock phosphate
-Greensand
add to ACT -Dry/Blackstrap Molasses
-Cal Mag
5 cups -Glacial rock dust
add to root hole in pot -Mycorrhizae powder
-Supplemental probiotic spores/cultures

just ratios off my head, you can go from there, dont need exact meausurements so thats like the jist of it.


theres a million threads on this subject on here, look around and you will learn a lot. one tea for veg and one for flower is good, you can do more if you feel like it but dont need to. you dont need to ph water. if your tap water is high in chlorine and bad stuff then let it sit or dechlorinate.

thanks for all the info. any specific threads you recommend?


I talked to someone at the hydro store who said I would do better by getting a charcoal filter, she said there were some things that dont come out through evap like flouride?

Here's what I use........

is there a reason you dont use some ingredients like: gypsum, dolomite, azomite, humus products, and/or guanos?

I use:

-roots/ffof as base
-coco coir
-mycorrhizae
-bat/PSB guano
-alfalfa meal
-kelp meal
-greensand
-mycos spores
-garden lime

I have happy plants.

what is "roots/ffof"?

I heard the greensand and guanos arent beneficial until you have used the soil two or three times over? thoughts?

is garden lime similar to dolomite?

I'd only put stuff like green sand and the bat guanos if your gonna use your soil for a long time, don't get me wrong their good ammendments they just take a while to break down

thanks for the tip j, if i build a healthy blend of biodiverse soil medium do you think i will need to only water with filtered h2o?

i know the soil acts as a nutrient bank, but wont every watering be a flush essentially?

is is typical to only use AACT once during veg and 1-2 times during bloom?

i know the soil acts as a nutrient bank, but wont every watering be a flush essentially?

How can you flush out something that is part of the actual construction?

It's all the different components and amendments that make up the soil as a whole - how can you flush these items out of the soil?

This isn't blue Miracle Grow crystals that just dissolve away...

J

is there a reason you dont use some ingredients like: gypsum, dolomite, azomite, humus products, and/or guanos?

They are duplicated by other ingredients that he does use.

Your list is full of redundant/duplicate ingredients. Pick the one that is easiest to source locally.

For example, I use Dolomite or Calcitic lime that I can get locally for cheap. Oyster shell flour is a good duplicate, but it would be 5x+ more expensive for me since I would have to have it shipped.

Wet

Here's what I use........

Ok, now how do I remove the highlighter from my screen?:D

Wet

They are duplicated by other ingredients that he does use.

Your list is full of redundant/duplicate ingredients. Pick the one that is easiest to source locally.

For example, I use Dolomite or Calcitic lime that I can get locally for cheap. Oyster shell flour is a good duplicate, but it would be 5x+ more expensive for me since I would have to have it shipped.

Wet

I also use crab/crustacean meal which you do not have listed. It is also a Ca source as well as a fertilizer. Wet's right, get what you have locally available and try to minimize your cash outlay.

If you make your own castings, they'll be loaded with Ca too. My worms get fed my fertilizer amendments also. The vermicompost contains the elements in the fertilizer meals and provides additional nutritional needs to the plant/s.

It's easy to go overkill on the amendments, but you can also go with a 3-4 part fert and grow good plants. I grew out a plant from start to finish using only kelp meal and kelp tea. It's got all the nutrition a plant needs. Amino acids, hormones, enzymes, growth regulators and vitamins are in kelp meal......IMO, kelp meal is the one amendment I would never go without.

Consider using equal parts crab/alfalfa/kelp/neem seed meals as your ferts @ 2 cups cu/ft. For minerals a blend of Glacial Rock Dust or Azomite and Oyster Shell Flour at 1 cup cu/ft would cover all your bases.

Along with comfrey teas, this is what's working for me these days.

Chunk

Hey Chunk, do you have any personal recommendations for a good crab meal?

Hey Chunk, do you have any personal recommendations for a good crab meal?

I get The Lighthouse Brand from my local farm store. It's packed by Wilbur-Ellis, a huge agri-business company that supplies farms/farm stores nationwide. It's 36 bucks for a 50# sack.

It will also be called crustacean meal in some areas so you can find it that way also. Some of our growers here have used the product from Neptune's Harvest, but it's all pretty much the same. Shop price/volume and try to get it without shipping.

Cheers,

Chunk

Ok cool, thanks Chunk. I know I've at least seen the Neptune's Harvest brand online so I know I can order that if I can't find what you use.
Appreciate it!

Hagbone,

Where are you located geographically speaking?

Chunk

Central Texas. Hill/River country.

Ahh.....I've spent some time in that country. Mercer, Luckenbach, Fredericksburg and points near there. Spent several days in Luckenbach drinking with the locals, eating BBQ that was cooked by Jimmy Luckenbach himself.

Pearl Longnecks, BBQ and about 20 musicians jamming......good times in Texas for sure.

Chunk