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My younger brother and his friend want to grow a plant or two, and they want to know if I would house it. I live by myself in a small apartment and have a decent size closet that might work. He said they'd split a portion of the yield with me.

Only concerns are ventilation, up keep, logistics and all that. My brother would be the "caretaker", but I assume I'd have most of the daily/regular responsibilities... I don't know how ventilation would work. I can see this being a huge hassle, too complicated for noobs, or becoming half assed, or abandoned. I don't know how they are going to pay for it, my brother doesn't work. =/

What do you think, worth it? How much would be worth the inconvenience?

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Well I cant tell you what to do, but if I was in your shoes....

Id do it if the working hours you could spend working would bring less $$ than what you expect from the harvest. But since your bro is between jobs anyway, he could easily do it. Maybe invest a little if you got some cash over, take his plants and if you dig it (the growing) you can start a grow on your own -> no more paying market price because you produce your own :)

If not you can still resell the shit aftewards, or buy used shit to begin with. Or let the other guy bring over some equipment if he is abandoning his plants anyways he wont need his equip, will he?

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is your landlord/apt complex cool with it?

also, does your bro live with you? if not, and he's the "primary caretaker", he's going to be showing up over there every day/other day at max...maybe he already does that so it's not a big deal. i'm just of the opinion that i don't like anyone to know what i'm doing. loose lips sink expensive ops

if it turns out that you will be taking care of it a lot, you might want a bigger cut than originally agreed upon. that might cause drama.

i say it's just best to do things on your own, or if all partners have equal risk/investment, and the person at the site should be the one taking care of it reducing traffic at the site, and try not to have friends/family/landlord/repair people/anyone that's not cool over, there's ways to hide it (c.filter+speed adj.+tent), but it's still a huge risk that's there 24/7

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No, don't think the property manager would appreciate it, but I've essentially smoked in my place everyday and no neighbors have complained. There is a business downstairs, but they seem like they'd be cool/wouldn't say anything if suspicious, never really had maintenance issues. And I mean, I've had an illegal guinea pig the entire 3 years I've lived here.

He also agrees that it could be quickly disposed of if it becomes an issue. And there is no way he would be here even every other day. He lives 30 minutes away, hates to drive, and has no money for the gas! I could maybe get him to come once or twice a week. And I work graveyard shift, so he'd have to work around my sleeping schedule, and with school it gets really hectic and unpredictable.

On the other hand, we never negotiated the numbers. I'm assuming it's just going between me, my brother and his partner. I'm guessing my bro wont be getting an equal share because he doesn't really have a lot to offer... Do you think half is fair? 50%, 40%, 10%? 45%, 45%, 10%?

So, me: risk, space, time/care Them: equip, materials, hopefully technical expertise, maybe some maintenance

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If you would call coming up with the parts and maintaining 2 parts that make a good plan, Id say take the weeks you have to take care of it. You divide the length of the grow alltogether.

So lets say the plant needs 16 weeks from seed to harvest. You keep it for 4 weeks that would mean 25% and since you only provide the work not the equip Id say divide through 2 and you would have a fair share. Anything above that would be cool, anything below would suck dick.

But that would be a way to come up with a number fair. You have to remember that its a plant not a baby, so you wont have to do shit all the time, only every day or other day a couple of minutes of work.


On the landlord thingy. I dont think most people ask their landlords if its cool, like if that was the case nobody could grow expect some exceptions. IMHO! ;)

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If you would call coming up with the parts and maintaining 2 parts that make a good plan, Id say take the weeks you have to take care of it. You divide the length of the grow alltogether.

So lets say the plant needs 16 weeks from seed to harvest. You keep it for 4 weeks that would mean 25% and since you only provide the work not the equip Id say divide through 2 and you would have a fair share. Anything above that would be cool, anything below would suck dick.

But that would be a way to come up with a number fair. You have to remember that its a plant not a baby, so you wont have to do shit all the time, only every day or other day a couple of minutes of work.


On the landlord thingy. I dont think most people ask their landlords if its cool, like if that was the case nobody could grow expect some exceptions. IMHO! ;)


Haha, I'm sorry man, but english isn't your first language, is it? I had a hard time understanding some of what you said. If it takes 16 weeks from seed to harvest, wouldn't I have it 16 weeks? I don't mind doing light daily duties, but I still don't even know what that would entail.

And I just realized, if it's in my clothes closet am I going to perma-smell like bud from my clothes? lol

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Haha fuck sorry. Wasnt too concentrated and on my ipad, fucks shit up.

Ok that was a misunderstanding, I thought you would just babysit them for a couple of weeks not do the whole grow. In that case of course just do it 50/50.

And of course it aint my first language, look at my location :P


So yeah, if you do the whole grow beside the equip Id say you guys should go splittzies on the harvest, everybody gets half. And depending how much you bro does (if I recall correctly) you either split with him or give him a third or whatever you feel like and you guys can agree on.


The first grow is the hardest, I just had that happen to me, but learning by doing without screwing everything up is very possible and you can always ask the grow equip guy.

Yeah the plant will start to smell weed-ish after it starts flowering. It gets worse and worse the nearer you come to harvest. So either get those clothes out of there or get another cupboard to grow in.

If its just 1 or 2 plants the daily duties will maybe take 15 minutes alltogether. Its not a 2000w 30plants grow, so it will be pretty easy to oversee everything. Just check it for every couple of hours to see deficits etc early, to start counter-attacking those fuckers. When Im home I check every couple of hours (2-3), maximum being 12-16 hours if Im out of the house/sleeping etc. Just dont let it be days without no attention.

And a little tip: only do risky shit if you are around to check if anything bad happens. For example dont start giving nutes and then go to sleep. If you arent used to the whole fertilizing thing, you might give too much and osmosis will fuck your plant up, then you will have to react to that, flushing it for example.
Had that happen to me and luckily it made it :P

So for the longer "away periods" just let the plant do its thing and if you are around for a couple of hours you can feed it, water it, replant it or whatever the fuck. ;)


Everything understandable? I hope :P

Edited by Tomason, 09 July 2012 - 10:08 PM.


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Your primary concern is security. Is your brother, or his friend, going to run their mouth about having a growing operation? I don't know how old they are, but it's pretty tempting to brag to your friends about how they're growing some killer weed, especially since they really aren't taking any risk. All the risk falls on you, it's your apartment, your name is on the lease, if you get busted while they aren't there it falls squarely on your shoulders.

Less important, but as you mentioned, if the plant is your place, most likely you're going to do the work. They can say "oh of course we'll come over every day and water, deal with heat and ph issues, and so forth," but in reality growing is quite time consuming, especially if issues crop up.

Doesn't seem worth it to me at all. You have all the risk, and only for a portion of the yield which after months of work and patience could only end up being an ounce or less?

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^^^Forgot that. Depending on your background, your friends, your country shit might be risky.

Cops in the US seem to have too much free time on their hands to bust kids with a lil weed :eek:

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Haha fuck sorry. Wasnt too concentrated and on my ipad, fucks shit up.

Ok that was a misunderstanding, I thought you would just babysit them for a couple of weeks not do the whole grow. In that case of course just do it 50/50.

And of course it aint my first language, look at my location :P


So yeah, if you do the whole grow beside the equip Id say you guys should go splittzies on the harvest, everybody gets half. And depending how much you bro does (if I recall correctly) you either split with him or give him a third or whatever you feel like and you guys can agree on.


The first grow is the hardest, I just had that happen to me, but learning by doing without screwing everything up is very possible and you can always ask the grow equip guy.

Yeah the plant will start to smell weed-ish after it starts flowering. It gets worse and worse the nearer you come to harvest. So either get those clothes out of there or get another cupboard to grow in.

If its just 1 or 2 plants the daily duties will maybe take 15 minutes alltogether. Its not a 2000w 30plants grow, so it will be pretty easy to oversee everything. Just check it for every couple of hours to see deficits etc early, to start counter-attacking those fuckers. When Im home I check every couple of hours (2-3), maximum being 12-16 hours if Im out of the house/sleeping etc. Just dont let it be days without no attention.

And a little tip: only do risky shit if you are around to check if anything bad happens. For example dont start giving nutes and then go to sleep. If you arent used to the whole fertilizing thing, you might give too much and osmosis will fuck your plant up, then you will have to react to that, flushing it for example.
Had that happen to me and luckily it made it :P

So for the longer "away periods" just let the plant do its thing and if you are around for a couple of hours you can feed it, water it, replant it or whatever the fuck. ;)


Everything understandable? I hope :P


haha, sorry, I just had to give you shit. And that sounds like a lot of technical stuff, which is what I was worried about, I don't give a shit about lighting/watering. But I would be willing to keep growing if it worked out well.

And I'm not that worried about anyone saying anything. Hopefully I could get this done with just my brother, but it's not like he's grown anything either. But he was the one that kept telling me that I can't tell anyone, and I'm like, "dude, seriously, you're telling me?"

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Two boys using your house to grow? Absolutely everyone will know about it in a week or two. Why not tell them it's a dangerous pipe dream? After that, you're free to grow all you want.

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Sounds like you don't really like to grow, meaning your aren't really excited. In that case and if you dont have problems buying, I'd say fuck it. Too much risk. You can always grow for yourself later if you still want.

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Two boys using your house to grow? Absolutely everyone will know about it in a week or two. Why not tell them it's a dangerous pipe dream? After that, you're free to grow all you want.


To be fair, he is 21, lol. and I don't know how old his friend is. And I've totally wanted to grow before, but I'm too poor, and at least this way I can try it out with less investment and a little guidance.

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Ongoing partnerships rarely work out, in anything. I would save up and buy my own equipment if possible. It sounds like you would be doing most of the work and taking all of the risk, but giving up half the product. Not a good deal in the long run.

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A 21 year old newb is less than no help at all. Start saving and buy an inline fan, an HPS, a carbon filter, and ballast. Say nothing to no one. You have thousands of blades to turn to for help, almost any of which are more experienced.

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A 21 year old newb is less than no help at all. Start saving and buy an inline fan, an HPS, a carbon filter, and ballast. Say nothing to no one. You have thousands of blades to turn to for help, almost any of which are more experienced.


Okey dokey then, but how much should I be trying to save? Imma try to save, but only problem is I'd probably get tempted to buy a plane ticket instead. So I would probably buy things gradually.

How much can you expect one plant to yield?

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Cant tell you about prices in the us, but yield can range from a couple of grams to 2ounces dry weight per plant, depends on your setup, how perfect the conditions are, how tall they can get, how long you veg them, etec. ;) sky is the limit broooooooooo :P

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Growing indoors is gonna cost alot of money... might not be worth it for 1 plant... if you got 4 plants i would say go for it ... but for 1just forget it...

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Didnt read the whole thread.
My main concern would be who knows about it.
Having a grow op is exciting. If the grow isn't at your house the incentive to keep your mouth shut about it isn't as strong. I don't know how well you think you can trust these guys, but... my brother knowing about it, probably OK. His friend? Eh, maybe not.

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Growing indoors is gonna cost alot of money... might not be worth it for 1 plant... if you got 4 plants i would say go for it ... but for 1just forget it...


I decided not to grow for anybody else, but I'm considering trying it out myself with two plants, in case I really fuck up. Would be worth it then, right?


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