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Posted 05 July 2012 - 06:45 AM
oh I did forget about the 30 or so failed seedlings in jiffy pucks i killed with too much miracle grow and the two plants i got from someone else that turned out to male before i even started the hydro.
so you heard it here first. Herm's throwing his hat back into the ring and you get to go along for the ride from start to finish on this epic journey we have before us. enjoy, sub and buckle up cuz its going to be a blur.
Posted 05 July 2012 - 06:55 AM
nearly a pound and a half at 1.38 lbs with only about 11 plants. i started in june 2010 with the first good plants and ended in late november. so in about 6 months i averaged about 2 ounces a plant.
some were more, some were less. but i grew 6 out of the 11 identical in size and produced the same amount of weight each. now all i needed to do was to reproduce that at larger scale. more plants the same way yet better this time with hydro. i can fit the same size plants i grew 6 of in a much tighter space with a aeroponics system.
I'm going to go into details on how i plan to grow and harvest 2-4 pounds dry every 7 days. your going to watch as i build this up from the ground up as i apply for a legal grow license and build my own building for growing.
Now i know I've had some haters on here before that don't like my grow methods so if you are going to state your ideas or critiques which are all welcome, please do it in a kind manner and not like a jerk.
Posted 05 July 2012 - 07:22 AM
they were using 3 sets of 3(2x4) aqua mist systems each fitting in a 4x6 space. one set had 96 ports, another 300 and i think the last had 200 or something. one produced 4.5 lbs, another 5 lbs and the last 6 lbs.
they didnt do any pruning and just let 100-300 plants all fight for air and light under either 2 x 600w and 1 x 1000w hps or 4 x 600w hps. they ended up losing about 100 plants in the 300 unit, leaving it with only 200 plants in a 4x6 area.
so this is why i see a problem with that math. there are 200 plants and they grow 6 lbs. 6 lbs is 96 ounces. 96 oz are 2,688 grams. so 2,688 grams divided up among 200 plants is 13.44 grams per plant.
13.44 GRAMS PER PLANT???
are you serious? thats measly. so here i am growing 2+ oz a plant not much smaller than the same size they grew but they were only getting 13.44 grams per plant.
so if I do 96 plants in an 3 piece aqua mist system and each plant produces 2 zips, i get 192 zips in 52 days. thats 12 lbs. multiply that by doing the same in two other aqua mists and thats 36 lbs in 52 days. if i plant 32 plants once a week for seven weeks i will harvest 4 lbs every seven days and i can do that 7 times a year because there are 52 weeks in a year and 7 days to each week.
4 x 52 = 208. thats 208 lbs a year.
so from here we start engineering the plan.
Posted 05 July 2012 - 07:37 AM
i want to have 4x6 as my standard grow "pod" hole. one grow pod would consist of 3 of the afore mentioned 2x4 aqua mist systems. they can build to please with these so was thinking of having in the least 4 pod sites. one pod with 300 ports and a 600w MH on a tracker for seeds/clones, and the other 3 pods would be 96 ports with 1-2 x 1000w hps on trackers.
what do you guys think?
Posted 05 July 2012 - 07:52 AM
on top of that i want the building positioned so that the roof gets the most sun possible.most people wouldn't want that but I'm going to be outfitting the roof with solar panels. The building will also have a small windmill
Residential Windmills For Electricity
this way I "growing green, while growing green" also will save a ton on electric bills. don't know if you can get the rumored electric company paycheck for back flowing unused energy, but that would truly be "growing green while growing green while growing green".
Posted 05 July 2012 - 07:58 AM
what do you guys think i should line the walls with. i want the shell where the pods will fit into to have walls that can get wet so i can sanitize the place with medical standards. I've had great success with mylar before. what is everyone using these days? whats more cost effective with best results?
Posted 05 July 2012 - 08:40 AM
i know that I've already said some stuff that will piss a lot of people off. so i apologize now for anything i might say to offend. i am an un orthodox grower if you havent already noticed. so don't hate me because I'm different, hate me because I might end up growing more pot than you. i know clones are the way to go but if i can get seeds in bulk that are femmed, they are going to be pretty much the same size when they go into hps. with the light on trackers from the beginning, the plants should stay more relative in size. this is also why i will be taking mothers so i can use clones too if i want.
so then every seven days you repeat the process of rapidly growing seeds/doing clones and placing them all at the same time in a 32 count HPS. and in about 7 weeks you will be harvesting every 7 days.
please also keep in mind i am going to be pruning aggressively. this is a method i believe in and understand that others don't believe in it. but it works for me and thats what i plan to do and if i find that its not needed i will be the first to admit it.
i want to get the lights with tubes for cooling. found em in 1000w hps for $239.88 hopefully i can get a bulk rate if i buy the 12 i would like to have in the end.
i think it was Arjan who said a pound per plant per 1000w. please correct me if I'm wrong.
Posted 05 July 2012 - 08:44 AM
Posted 05 July 2012 - 09:02 AM
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Posted 05 July 2012 - 09:05 AM
or would two 1000w hps be cheaper on the power?
Posted 05 July 2012 - 02:43 PM
Posted 06 July 2012 - 05:16 AM
What are you looking to do here???
What equipment do you have??
What is your budget for this grow???
What are you looking to get off the grow with above information???
Sounds like you're wanting to do DWC but you're listed in Aeroponics....
Posted 06 July 2012 - 03:47 PM
the only money i have right now is $25k and that is to pay for the $25k grow license fee in my state. so I have to try and build everything on paper before i present this to an investor. i can get the money for supplies no problem. just have to show how the money will be used first.
Posted 06 July 2012 - 04:33 PM
And also, what system are you wanting to use???
DWC, RDWC, Ebb&Gro, Ebb&Flo, Aeroponic, or Coco??
Posted 06 July 2012 - 08:57 PM
anyways i want bind them 3x3 so it will make four "pods" that will each fit into a 4X6 space. the aquamist system is a just fill with water and leave it alone except for ppm and ph. i want to build my own building using Morton Buildings so i can put solar panels on top in a way so that they get the most sun and i want a windmill or two.
Posted 07 July 2012 - 03:13 AM
Oh, aquamist systems are Aeroponics so you're good....
ok so i want to buy 12 (2x4) aquamist systems, idk if its DWC or what. def not coco i thought it was hybrid of aero and hydro. I'm a soil guy sorry.
anyways i want bind them 3x3 so it will make four "pods" that will each fit into a 4X6 space.
You mean fit into a 6x6...
the aquamist system is a just fill with water and leave it alone except for ppm and ph.
Hydroponics as well...
Wow, I hope you post all this up for people to see how you did it all....
i want to build my own building using Morton Buildings so i can put solar panels on top in a way so that they get the most sun and i want a windmill or two.
Ya, I've been setting up grow operations for nearly two decades and sounds way over my head..
i mean this is a serious operation
Keep us posted up on progress!!
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