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warm milk and bud?
#1
Posted 04 July 2012 - 02:35 AM
#2
Posted 04 July 2012 - 04:44 PM
a waste of bud: yes
effective: no
if you want something drinkable that is worthwhile, look into tinctures or make cannaoil and mix it with your milk?
#3
Posted 05 July 2012 - 11:34 PM
Ganja tea can be made from water, regular milk, or soy or nut milk. Boiling buds in water is not enough, as it won't dissolve the THC. This recipe comes courtesy of the Women's Alliance for Medical Marijuana, in Santa Cruz.
Ingredients
"Ganja Tea"
1 tbsp butter
2 cup hot water or milk
1 bud
"Mother's Milk"
2 heaped tbsp ground marijuana
1/2 pint whole milk
Method
Ganja Tea
To make ganja tea from water, one teaspoon of butter is added to a cup of hot water and a bud steeped in it for 15 minutes to 2 hours. The longer it is steeped, the more potent it is. Any oil left floating on top of the tea should be drunk.
Mother's Milk
For "mother's milk," marijuana is ground until it is as powdery as flour. Two heaping tablespoons can be stirred into 1/2 pint milk--not lowfat milk.
This is then simmered in a crockpot for at least two hours, ideally all day or overnight.
It can be seasoned with nutmeg, cinnamon, chocolate, or vanilla.
A standard dose is 1/8 cup--1/4 cup. You can carry it around in a thermos. Additional amounts can be stored as you would milk, for longer-term preservation, it can be frozen.
I have made the Mother's Milk and can assure that it was quite good and potent. It's an easier method than but similar in nature to Bhang. If anyone has experience Bhang then they know how great cannabis and milk can be. I made a pint and came out with a cup and a half strained. I use about 2 oz in a smoothie or shake or hot chocolate or straight up and get a good buzz from it. I put a little vanilla which covers the cannabis taste and I have frozen some for later use. I used a crockpot and forgot to stir it the last half hour, so I got some skim but it was still good. Just keep stirring the milk occasionally. The less skim the more end product. 4 heaping tablespoons of ground marijuana is about a quarter ounce, 7 oz.
I have also made the tea. The butter recipe is popular but I prefer to use some whole milk in addition to the water instead of butter. However, including the butter with the milk would give you a better transfer. Most people I know also use a tea bag of their desired flavor. Take the tea bag out when it has steeped then leave the cannabis as long as you can. You can always heat it in the microwave before drinking. Crush your bud or use a tablespoon of trim and put it either in a small square of cheesecloth and tie it up or use a metal tea strainer. The tea is really good to relax before bedtime. Everyone I've told about this has raved about it and it's easy and a good use for your trim.
Decarb for the milk but it isn't necessary for the tea, but wouldn't hurt. If you make the tea in a strainer, put the strainer in the freezer with the remains and include it with fresh material the next time to make your tea a little stronger
The guy who posted this recipe was banned for some reason but he has some real good recipes.
#4
Posted 06 July 2012 - 12:18 AM
#5
Posted 06 July 2012 - 12:37 AM
#6
Posted 06 July 2012 - 03:46 AM
#7
Posted 06 July 2012 - 05:57 AM
#8
Posted 07 July 2012 - 07:34 PM
I have tried it and it works quite well, thank you, as long as it is whole milk. I have some in my freezer now that I could prove it with if I could get it to you. Obviously we have different experiences. Who's right?
I tried this. This does NOT work. You can only use HEAVY CREAM
while psychedelicsam has had it work for him, this does not mean that it will work for mot1ve.
there is much more water content in milk rather than heavy whipping cream, like mot1ve mentions. therefore, less fat percentage in the entire contents. this means that the cannabinoids which are in contact with that water content are just being left there and untouched. they will not be infused into the fats of the milk because there is much more water content in there. unless of course you process for about a days time, then you will have a more potent milk, but you will destroy cannabinoids already infused with the milk and bud being on heat for so long. so your gaining and losing at the same time.
some people are different than others when it comes to absorption and processing of cannabinoids in the body. some can process and use more than others can, and decarboxylation has a big role there as well.
so while it works for psychedelicsam, it didnt work for mot1ve as well. there are many different variables when it comes to edibles. whether it is the amount you dosed with, how long it was processed, what solvent you used when processing, did you decarb, what did you eat prior to eating the edible. these things can all effect how one digests and uses the cannabinoids which were eaten.
but yes overall the specific recipes for "mothers milk" and "ganja tea" are a bit outdated and ineffective. they will work for many, and definitely work for most in higher doses. but there are other solvents and much better methods that require much less bud per dose
#9
Posted 07 July 2012 - 07:36 PM
#10
Posted 07 July 2012 - 08:50 PM
cannabutter your meds, then put it into milk as others have said. mixing milk and butter will be a better solvent than just milk, but inferior to just plain butter
#11
Posted 08 July 2012 - 06:10 AM
#12
Posted 08 July 2012 - 07:28 AM
Just because it is outdated doesn't mean that it doesn't work and isn't potent. Tell that to the millions of Bhang users in India and elsewhere over the millenia. One of the things I dislike on these forums is that so many people are snobs and feel that only modern high technology is the way to go. That may be true for a lot of things. There are now better and easier ways to extract the active ingredients and concentrates of marijuana but that doesn't mean that those old recipes don't work and work well. You say that these specific recipes are outdated and ineffective but then say they will work for many. Make up your mind.
As with all edibles, the effects are going to vary from patient to patient. Maybe Mot1ve has digestive or other issues that can't get the effect from the milk. Of course, heavy cream is going to be a better solvent because it's got 10 times more fat than whole milk. It wouldn't need to be heated as long. Believe me, there are people out here who are looking for simple recipes that work well and don't take a bunch stuff to do it. I am one of those people. While I like a good edibles full of cannabis extractions, every now and then I like a change of pace. I'm willing to go old fashioned or new fangled to get there. Both the Tea and the Mother's Milk are favorites of mine, I am getting ready to try the Citrus Acid Extraction and have high hopes for it, pun intended. I like recipes that are off the beaten bath but proven whether by anectdotes handed down thru the years or first person. Old and new school can go hand in hand when it comes marijuana ingestion.
The Mother's Milk and Ganja Tea are recipes you should only use if you have some good trim or some extra buds. I didn't decide to make the milk until I had enough trim so that it wouldn't hurt as much if it failed, which it did not. As with many recipes here, don't sacrifice your last bud on a process that you have not seen results from. I wouldn't have made the milk if I didn't have the weed plus I already had oil, butter, brownies, cookies and fudge. I wanted something soothing for the evening. The milk and tea went great for that and are easy. And the milk was spot on for a cookie and so was the tea.
This isn't the first time that someone says that my recipes aren't viable. BKS blasted me for my Honey Elixir and gave all kind of reasons why it couldn't work at all or with much of a punch. It's 1 dropper under the tongue material and the potency lasted 3 months. I just successfully made another batch. Not only that I plan on doing the same transfer method to some glycerin, which is a recognized process. Should get some decent tincture without the month wait. Plus, I am planning to have a Bhang party as soon as I get enough trim. That's another old fashioned and outdated recipe handed down for thousands of years by people who knew how to party.
The bottom line is don't experiment with a process unless prepared for failure. Also, if you make a recipe and it didn't work for you, don't go to that person's thread and belligerently state that their process doesn't work, period. Respect your fellow forum traveler - I know that's hard for this group - and understand that what works for them may not work for you. Let the person down easy because otherwise you're calling them a liar and them's fighting words, pardner.
#13
Posted 08 July 2012 - 01:56 PM
"but yes overall the specific recipes for "mothers milk" and "ganja tea" are a bit outdated and ineffective. they will work for many, and definitely work for most in higher doses. but there are other solvents and much better methods that require much less bud per dose"
Just because it is outdated doesn't mean that it doesn't work and isn't potent. Tell that to the millions of Bhang users in India and elsewhere over the millenia. One of the things I dislike on these forums is that so many people are snobs and feel that only modern high technology is the way to go. That may be true for a lot of things. There are now better and easier ways to extract the active ingredients and concentrates of marijuana but that doesn't mean that those old recipes don't work and work well. You say that these specific recipes are outdated and ineffective but then say they will work for many. Make up your mind.
As with all edibles, the effects are going to vary from patient to patient. Maybe Mot1ve has digestive or other issues that can't get the effect from the milk. Of course, heavy cream is going to be a better solvent because it's got 10 times more fat than whole milk. It wouldn't need to be heated as long. Believe me, there are people out here who are looking for simple recipes that work well and don't take a bunch stuff to do it. I am one of those people. While I like a good edibles full of cannabis extractions, every now and then I like a change of pace. I'm willing to go old fashioned or new fangled to get there. Both the Tea and the Mother's Milk are favorites of mine, I am getting ready to try the Citrus Acid Extraction and have high hopes for it, pun intended. I like recipes that are off the beaten bath but proven whether by anectdotes handed down thru the years or first person. Old and new school can go hand in hand when it comes marijuana ingestion.
The Mother's Milk and Ganja Tea are recipes you should only use if you have some good trim or some extra buds. I didn't decide to make the milk until I had enough trim so that it wouldn't hurt as much if it failed, which it did not. As with many recipes here, don't sacrifice your last bud on a process that you have not seen results from. I wouldn't have made the milk if I didn't have the weed plus I already had oil, butter, brownies, cookies and fudge. I wanted something soothing for the evening. The milk and tea went great for that and are easy. And the milk was spot on for a cookie and so was the tea.
This isn't the first time that someone says that my recipes aren't viable. BKS blasted me for my Honey Elixir and gave all kind of reasons why it couldn't work at all or with much of a punch. It's 1 dropper under the tongue material and the potency lasted 3 months. I just successfully made another batch. Not only that I plan on doing the same transfer method to some glycerin, which is a recognized process. Should get some decent tincture without the month wait. Plus, I am planning to have a Bhang party as soon as I get enough trim. That's another old fashioned and outdated recipe handed down for thousands of years by people who knew how to party.
The bottom line is don't experiment with a process unless prepared for failure. Also, if you make a recipe and it didn't work for you, don't go to that person's thread and belligerently state that their process doesn't work, period. Respect your fellow forum traveler - I know that's hard for this group - and understand that what works for them may not work for you. Let the person down easy because otherwise you're calling them a liar and them's fighting words, pardner.
just because something is outdated and ineffective, doesnt mean it will not work. i assume now that you have little knowledge in the field of edibles after this statement.
it is outdated because there are newer ways of processing which take less time and have improved the old ways..right?
it is also ineffective because you need at least two, sometimes three, times the amount of material for a dose, compared to other methods...right?
it can however work for many people out there, when processed for a long time and if a large amount is put into each dose.
therefore, it can be ineffective, outdated, and still work for many. do you now see my point here
im sure badkat didnt mean to come off as "tearing you apart" as much as she was trying to help you out. you also must understand that many people come on here with bizarre ideas claiming them to work, when in fact they are nothing more than a waste of the plant. badkat also has much more experience and knowledge in this field than most everybody on this site. and again, helping you perfect your elixir and make it the most efficient it could be is her motive, i believe.
i agree with pretty much everything else you mention here. people should not waste what little herb they can afford or wht they have for the time being, for the simple fact that edibles take time to master and get to work. it will cost money and waste much of your time at first while learning. that is one of the things many dont mention here.
but once they do master it and realize that it isnt all that difficult, and then compare results and amounts of material used, they are blown away.
not too long ago, i can remember making my first brownies and having to put large amounts into my oil/butter just to get it to work. once i started researching, asking questions, and mostly experimented, my edibles started to need much less material per dose. i was a lazy stoner who just wanted a quick edible to get me there
but what i want people to realize is; while these firecrackers and other quick processes do work, they will be amazed when they see what they can do with a properly processed oil.
and i also want them to realize that it isnt hard to do this. if you follow the exact directions in most of the tutorials here, they will work for you. if one decarbs, uses the right solvent, and the proper time to process, then your edibles will be top notch. and yes it does take a bit more time, but it is worth spending the few hours to make a bigger batch of oil and freeze it for use until whenever youd like.
bottom line is, we arent trying to say that these old methods dont work. we are just trying to redirect people to a more efficient way of processing there bud into edibles. we want people to enjoy their edibles without having to use more than necessary. i would love to see people spend more time processing, than spend more money or waste herb throwing more into a recipe to make it quicker/easier.
heres what i have learned over time:
the more effort you put into processing edibles, the better the results will be. just like anything else in life
#14
Posted 09 July 2012 - 02:20 AM
#15
Posted 09 July 2012 - 03:34 AM
do you want to do it the easy way, or the easy but better way?
#16
Posted 09 July 2012 - 05:10 AM
As far a BadKittySmiles, she did pretty much rip apart my process but she did it nicely and in a good way. I acknowledged the fact and thanked her for it. I have no problem with constructive criticism. She didn't just rip it though, she provided alternatives and actually brought up a lot of good stuff that I agreed with and learned from. As far as that process was concerned, it was off the mark because the process works wonderfully, is potent and has a long shelf life.
I don't have a laboratory background. All my experience comes from the street - from getting cut in Acapulco while trying to score in the 70's to unloading a shrimp boat in the bayou in the 80's and all kinds of adventures in between and since. I've become disabled and turned to edibles. Like most people out here, I want something that's easy to do and doesn't take a lot of time and effort. These old fashioned recipes work and should not be ignored just because it's from the past. These recipes are tried and true over centuries and would not have been passed on if they hadn't worked. In fact, I have have seen more half-baked ideas for processing pot in this and other modern forums than I have found a bad old recipe. The Hindus have been making and using Bhang in their festivals for thousands of years and those people know how to party. Don't tell them it doesn't work good enough.
But I'm not stuck in the past. I am getting ready to use the citric acid extraction and I like making the other products, too. I just think that the old recipes should not be overlooked in your cookbook. While many may be wasteful or weak, many are worth exploring and can be updated with modern tools. These two recipes are in that category. So don't knock it if you haven't tried it. If it doesn't work for you, maybe we can compare and see where the difference lies. If I put it in here it works, at least for me and others, so just don't say it doesn't work period.
And I'm sorry that I forgot to credit the quote at the start of my previous post. I didn't learn how to just quote a small portion of a previous post so I just copied and pasted. I'll credit that quote now, jkcole. It was your quote from your previous post saying that they would work. I just agree that they will but disagree that it takes longer and more and isn't as good and I have provided an example of this in this post. Newer is not necessarily better. Have you tried either of these? What do you know about it? You seem to think that I'm new to edibles just because I like some old recipes and I think that if you ignore a recipe just because it is old and outdated, you're just sticking your head in the sand. There is a lot to be learned from them and if you're smart enough, you update them as you go along. The milk recipe is like that. The crockpot is an update. The tea is too simple to need any updating.
#17
Posted 09 July 2012 - 05:16 PM
So it took me an extra hour and im getting about twice as many doses as you were. Im not trying to rip you apart or put you down in any way! I am just hoping that this will help you have an open mind, and get the most out of your meds!
After all, isnt that the reason we are all here??
#18
Posted 09 July 2012 - 07:29 PM
8 doses from 7 grams isnt too bad. But my point still stands that i dose at less than half of a gram, and that is PLENTY to have me on the couch for 5+ hours. It also only takes about 2 hours to make the oil, plus the time to put that oil into something. My latest batch of goodies took me about 3 hours total.
So it took me an extra hour and im getting about twice as many doses as you were. Im not trying to rip you apart or put you down in any way! I am just hoping that this will help you have an open mind, and get the most out of your meds!
After all, isnt that the reason we are all here??
I just don't think that you're getting it. It's not that I don't have an open mind. In fact, just the opposite. My mind is open to trying various things whether it's an old folk recipe or some new fangled process that doesn't include petrochemicals. And for me, half a gram isn't nearly enough. I go thru a few grams a day, everyday for 42 years, so I know how to gauge potency. It seems to me that it's you that doesn't have the open mind. You're shutting out scores of good recipes that still have their place in our modern world. I have oil, butter, elixir, cookies and fudge sitting in my fridge right now. I have dozens of lecithined coconut oil caps in my freezer, so don't tell me I don't have an open mind toward modern applications. The thing is, I don't post any recipes that don't work to my standards, which are high. I don't post anything that is ineffective and/or wasteful. If the milk recipe had used all prime bud, then it would have been a waste and I wouldn't have posted it. Although I might have gotten double the doses, it would still have still been wasteful but not with trim. Sometimes I may be out of oil or tincture and just want to have a relaxing cup of cannabis tea. Why should I go thru all the trouble to make a batch of something at 10pm when all I want to do is relax and get ready for beddy-bye? These recipes are for those kind of times as well as others. So don't go shutting them down just because they're old. There's a time and place for everything.
I understand that you're not putting me down and are trying to help and I appreciate that. It's just that we are not communing with each other. (How's that for an old hippie term?). I don't know if it's a generational thing or what, but I will keep on posting and defending my recipes, whether new fangled or prehistoric. So pardon me but I've got some Gold Dragon to process.
#19
Posted 09 July 2012 - 10:35 PM
I just don't think that you're getting it. It's not that I don't have an open mind. In fact, just the opposite. My mind is open to trying various things whether it's an old folk recipe or some new fangled process that doesn't include petrochemicals. And for me, half a gram isn't nearly enough. I go thru a few grams a day, everyday for 42 years, so I know how to gauge potency. It seems to me that it's you that doesn't have the open mind. You're shutting out scores of good recipes that still have their place in our modern world. I have oil, butter, elixir, cookies and fudge sitting in my fridge right now. I have dozens of lecithined coconut oil caps in my freezer, so don't tell me I don't have an open mind toward modern applications. The thing is, I don't post any recipes that don't work to my standards, which are high. I don't post anything that is ineffective and/or wasteful. If the milk recipe had used all prime bud, then it would have been a waste and I wouldn't have posted it. Although I might have gotten double the doses, it would still have still been wasteful but not with trim. Sometimes I may be out of oil or tincture and just want to have a relaxing cup of cannabis tea. Why should I go thru all the trouble to make a batch of something at 10pm when all I want to do is relax and get ready for beddy-bye? These recipes are for those kind of times as well as others. So don't go shutting them down just because they're old. There's a time and place for everything.
I understand that you're not putting me down and are trying to help and I appreciate that. It's just that we are not communing with each other. (How's that for an old hippie term?). I don't know if it's a generational thing or what, but I will keep on posting and defending my recipes, whether new fangled or prehistoric. So pardon me but I've got some Gold Dragon to process.
I do understand where youre coming from. I just didnt grasp the concept that you were going for other quick easy recipes. Those are perfect if thats what you desire! By all means, i know that firecrackers and the quicker methods do work. But i prefer newer and more efficient ways. But you cant tell me that your lecithined coconut caps dont have more power pound for pound (technically gram for gram i guess
But it very well may be a generational difference in preferences
But to each their own when it comes to enjoying and benefitting from this plant.
Its just most people on here are looking for a quick and easy recipe that works. And this does not work for many unless they use more herb than they think to use. That is the point i am trying to get across to people. In no way would i ever put down a method that works for others. Its just one of those personal preference and opinionated topics
#20
Posted 09 July 2012 - 11:05 PM
we are trying to let beginners know that these are generally less efficient ways of extracting thc. they deserve to know, and somebody has to tell them
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