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So think about this... What if you grew a mother plant of your choice. Any base strain you prefer. And then you pollinate it with a mixture that you had previously made out of the pollen from the males of numerous different strains.. After it matures you could grow the seeds into a strain comprised of all of the strains mixed. This could lead to limitless possibilities from a 3 strain mix to 50 to 100! Imagine the SUPER STRAIN!
Is this possible?
Or am I just blazed?
Both?
Think about it!
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That would be pretty awesome indeed but unfortunately it doesn't work like that. Just like a slut who's pregnant after a gang bang, there can only be one father.

One of my better analogies if i do say so myself :ey:

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That would be pretty awesome indeed but unfortunately it doesn't work like that. Just like a slut who's pregnant after a gang bang, there can only be one father.

One of my better analogies if i do say so myself :ey:


That's what I thought..... But it still could
Be possible! It would just take way longer.... You would have to grow a mother and pollinate it. Then grow a mother from the seeds off that plant and pollinate it and repeat until desired effect is achieved :)

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That would be pretty awesome indeed but unfortunately it doesn't work like that. Just like a slut who's pregnant after a gang bang, there can only be one father.

One of my better analogies if i do say so myself :ey:



too bad its incorrect...very unlikely but incorrect

Texas woman gives birth to twins - from different fathers - New York Daily News

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So think about this... What if you grew a mother plant of your choice. Any base strain you prefer. And then you pollinate it with a mixture that you had previously made out of the pollen from the males of numerous different strains.. After it matures you could grow the seeds into a strain comprised of all of the strains mixed. This could lead to limitless possibilities from a 3 strain mix to 50 to 100! Imagine the SUPER STRAIN!
Is this possible?
Or am I just blazed?
Both?
Think about it!
:bongin:


I want what you're smoking :D

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too bad its incorrect...very unlikely but incorrect

Texas woman gives birth to twins - from different fathers - New York Daily News



Two eggs. Only one sperm per egg. Plants are the same.

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Actually its quite likely, think of EVERY single callux as a woman's womb, it only takes ONE pollen cell to fertilize it, but there are THOUSANDS on a single plant, you can evenly mix pollen from 50 different strains, from heavy indica to heavy sativa, and evenly spread it over an EVENLY hybridized plant (evenly between indica and sativa) and chances are you will end up with Solid colored, striped, Small and large seeds when fully mature, and chances are you will end up with A LOT of differnt phenotypes (i.e. some look and act like sativa, some indica, and some hybrid) and even follow the same growth patterns as the sativa or indica they look like, yet they all STILL have the same mother..

you guys that said only one plant's pollen would make it through are not very experienced, you make that painfully obvious by the metaphors you used to describe your answers...so here is a good one...what you guys said would be EXACTLY like having a white woman, who had children with a Latino, african-american, and another caucasian and expecting ALL THREE kids to look exactly the same....its JUST WONT HAPPEN....but it still wont be as varied as you thought it would be OP, but yes, you would end up with a vast assortment of different phenotypes from the same mother..

sources: I pulled 3 seeds out of a SINGLE NUG....all three had NO RESEMBLANCE WHATSOEVER to the mother, or two each other, and the grower stated he had 4 different strains of plants, and all 4 had some males in the field that were never culled

there's your answer, and it doesn't matter if someone tells me i am wrong...if i have experienced it in real life, i will take that as more proof than someone on the internet that tells me i am wrong xD

Two eggs. Only one sperm per egg. Plants are the same.

correct, but if egg=calux, and sperm=pollen, you gotta think about this...a full budding MATURE FEMALE PLANT has THOUSANDS of eggs, way more than the 1 or 2 [sometimes up to 8 that a human female has] and a male will release MILLIONS UPON MILLIONS of pollen cells, VASTLY more than the amount of sperm in a single ejaculation by a single adult male (were talking 1 or 2-8 vs. thousands for females, and 10-15 million vs 300 million pollen cells with males)

one egg, one sperm is correct, but marijuana has vastly more eggs and sperm than we do...leading to WAY more possible reproduction outcomes than we could possibly have

Edited by lalaman33333, 13 July 2012 - 08:48 PM.


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you would have a bag of beans with astounding genetic variance, but little to no stability.
The slut analogy was spot on. The baby can and will only be the random sequencing of genes taken from 1 egg and 1 sperm. She wouldn't make a hella mix race gangbang baby. The sperm isn't in there forming a super sperm to make that egg its bitch. Its a frenzied geneticly varied race for a winner.
Same applies to calyx and pollen. Execpt the cannabis unlike a human has as many calyces as you grow her to have (or she can have genetically.) So instead of pumping out one gangbang baby at a time, it can pump one, ten, one hundred, one thousand, what have you, babies at a time. But each baby still only gets one set of paternal dna and obviously only the one set of maternal dna.

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you would have a bag of beans with astounding genetic variance, but little to no stability.
The slut analogy was spot on. The baby can and will only be the random sequencing of genes taken from 1 egg and 1 sperm. She wouldn't make a hella mix race gangbang baby. The sperm isn't in there forming a super sperm to make that egg its bitch. Its a frenzied geneticly varied race for a winner.
Same applies to calyx and pollen. Execpt the cannabis unlike a human has as many calyces as you grow her to have (or she can have genetically.) So instead of pumping out one gangbang baby at a time, it can pump one, ten, one hundred, one thousand, what have you, babies at a time. But each baby still only gets one set of paternal dna and obviously only the one set of maternal dna.

yes, but lets say its a perfectly stable mother genetically, and all the donor males were stable genetcally, why would offspring be potentially unstable, with the fact that only one pollen cell fetalizes one calyx, and makes a seed independently of all the other calyxes...i mean i have crossed skiiny as shit sativas with heavy afgan Indicas and the offspring were slightly varied from each other but were healthy, thrived, and when mature all the females that were left (only 10...6 fm 4 m) were almost identical.

i guess my question is: Why would one male crossed with one female be more stable than many males crossed with one female...when the female passes the same information to every seed, but the rest relies soley on the male's information

i could imagine it could be unstable if more than one pollen cell could pollenate a calyx, but thats not the case.

and thank you for making me remember calyx is spelled calyx and not callux i was stoned as shit

Edited by lalaman33333, 14 July 2012 - 09:16 AM.


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yes, but lets say its a perfectly stable mother genetically, and all the donor males were stable genetcally, why would offspring be potentially unstable, with the fact that only one pollen cell fetalizes one calyx, and makes a seed independently of all the other calyxes...i mean i have crossed skiiny as shit sativas with heavy afgan Indicas and the offspring were slightly varied from each other but were healthy, thrived, and when mature all the females that were left (only 10...6 fm 4 m) were almost identical.

i guess my question is: Why would one male crossed with one female be more stable than many males crossed with one female...when the female passes the same information to every seed, but the rest relies soley on the male's information

i could imagine it could be unstable if more than one pollen cell could pollenate a calyx, but thats not the case.

and thank you for making me remember calyx is spelled calyx and not callux i was stoned as shit


you will get a shit ton of seeds that have an incredibly high rate of variance.


"unstable" is the wrong term. It is used WAY too much, when talking about seed IMHO .. peeps ( noobs mainly ) think unstable means anything from 2 phenotypes.(LOLS huh ?) to a full hermie population of triploids with TMV.

when one is "homogenous "issues, and the other is genetic instability .

just my .02

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you will get a shit ton of seeds that have an incredibly high rate of variance.


"unstable" is the wrong term. It is used WAY too much, when talking about seed IMHO .. peeps ( noobs mainly ) think unstable means anything from 2 phenotypes.(LOLS huh ?) to a full hermie population of triploids with TMV.

when one is "homogenous "issues, and the other is genetic instability .

just my .02

exactly, i was just saying if all the Parent plants were stable genetically, then so will the offspring...people dont know what unstable means anymore :rolleyes:

you will just end up with a shit ton a diffenrt phenos and strain crosses lol

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exactly, i was just saying if all the Parent plants were stable genetically, then so will the offspring...people dont know what unstable means anymore :rolleyes:

you will just end up with a shit ton a diffenrt phenos and strain crosses lol


Just because the parents are "stable" or "true breeding" does not mean their offspring will be. True breeding means most of a specimens alleles are homozygous and most traits have a dominant expression with little variation. If two genetically dissimilar individuals breed, their offspring most certainly will not be true breeding. You just fucked your chances of that on that cross. The offspring may be true breeding for a handful of traits but not to the extent of the parental generation


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