Synthetic to organic

Can I switch my plant to organic nutes for the bud phase if Im using sensigrow now for the veg phase?

Sorry man I'm not sure what sensing grow is. Is it chemical nutrients?

Sorry man I'm not sure what sensing grow is. Is it chemical nutrients?

Of the best variety jerry, lmfao, advanced nutrients.

Yes dude you can and should stop using that. You probably want to brew a compost/earthworm casting tea to re introduce some of the dead microbial life that chemical has killed.

Mixing your own soil is preffered, if you can't this time then topdress with something like the Espoma plant tone and work on your soil for the next round.



BeZ...V

Of the best variety jerry, lmfao, advanced nutrients.

Yes dude you can and should stop using that. You probably want to brew a compost/earthworm casting tea to re introduce some of the dead microbial life that chemical has killed.

Mixing your own soil is preffered, if you can't this time then topdress with something like the Espoma plant tone and work on your soil for the next round.



BeZ...V

Thanks dude, thats good to know. This is for my dro grow my buddy talked me into. Ive got a couple of plants in soil, and Im using FFOF and FF nute trio that Im growing organic, but my dro grow is chemical. Im gonna be switching to 12/12 Aug 1st, and if I switch to organic dro, all my plants will be organic.

Sorry man I'm not sure what sensing grow is. Is it chemical nutrients?

Its a chemical nute, and I dont want chemicals in my buds. Now that I know what Im doing, somewhat, I want to grow all organic buds.

Sorry to tell you but those fox farms trio nutes are not "really" organic. And hydro is the farthest from organic.

Here's an experiment for ya.
Take one plant in that FFOF and topdress it with worm castings and 2-3 tablespoons of espoma then just water only until harvest, no matter what water only I don't care about yellow or rusty leaves ONLY WATER and compare the end products.



Good luck BeZ...V

Sorry to tell you but those fox farms trio nutes are not "really" organic. And hydro is the farthest from organic.

Here's an experiment for ya.
Take one plant in that FFOF and topdress it with worm castings and 2-3 tablespoons of espoma then just water only until harvest, no matter what water only I don't care about yellow or rusty leaves ONLY WATER and compare the end products.



Good luck BeZ...V

Thats what Im planning on doing with my plant in the FFOF. And how is hydro the farthest from organic? Theres organic hydro nutes, and some pretty good ones from what Ive heard.

Personally, if you are really far into flowering your batch, I would finish it the way you started. Really good earth is a bit more complicated than sprinkling some earth worm castings and episoma on top and thinking that the chemically salted soil will hold much life in that short of a time frame.

I'd spend my last few weeks looking thru the soil creation pages, brew some up, it takes a few weeks to break down the ammendments and generate some decent life. It needs to sit for a few weeks before you drop a plant in it.

Look around you for 'stuff' that can be sconed into your mix, alfalfa, kelp meal, bone meal, azomite, sul-po-mag, crushed rocks, seagull shite, that kind of stuff. Look at your local gardening shops and nurseries for ingredients for your next grow, maybe just finish this one as it is...because they don't like the switch...trust me.

Momma talking. Just my 2 cents.

Thats what Im planning on doing with my plant in the FFOF. And how is hydro the farthest from organic? Theres organic hydro nutes, and some pretty good ones from what Ive heard.

From what I've been able to read/learn so far from the organic guys here is that those chemicals do nothing good no matter what you've heard.

From what I've been able to read/learn so far from the organic guys here is that those chemicals do nothing good no matter what you've heard.

Its all really a matter of opinion. I know from seeing a side by side comparison, that hydro makes the buds alot denser with more crystals, and organically grown buds are a little fluffier, while still dense, and had more of a natural green color. The chemically grown buds were more of a lime green color. The local bud guy here had some White Cough, one batch grown with chemicals, and one grown organically. There was a clear visual difference, and they tasted different too. Both batches came off the same mother plant. The dro yield was about a lb, and the organic yield was 10oz's.

It's actually not a matter of opinion. It's fact. Any plants you saw that were grown "organically" by your buddy that happened to be leafier etc, are a direct result of his growing skills, which sound like they leave much to be desired.
Maybe more than my .2 cents but you got it none the less.

It is all matter of opinion for sure ..I'm just trying to keep my soil alive and kicking and chemical nutes are a no no for me...not super experienced yet in growing organically but from what I've been able to accomplish so far has blown me away

Happy soil = happy plant

And I'm just guessing and gonna say that the organic bud tasted better hehe

It is all matter of opinion for sure ..I'm just trying to keep my soil alive and kicking and chemical nutes are a no no for me...not super experienced yet in growing organically but from what I've been able to accomplish so far has blown me away

Happy soil = happy plant

And I'm just guessing and gonna say that the organic bud tasted better hehe

The organic bud did taste better, and wasnt nearly as harsh. The dro was pretty harsh, and had that limey taste and smell, and got us way more baked than the organic did, but the organic had a nice strong mellow feel to it. Like I said earlier also, the dro was way denser and covered in crystals and the organic was more natural green looking and dense, but fluffy at the same time.

I find I I use liquid karma in a chem system it makes it more like organic..probably cause the humic acid breaks it all down well..you can try the whole botanicare line it's mostly organic

It's actually not a matter of opinion. It's fact. Any plants you saw that were grown "organically" by your buddy that happened to be leafier etc, are a direct result of his growing skills, which sound like they leave much to be desired.
Maybe more than my .2 cents but you got it none the less.

How is growing hydroponics with guano tea not organic?

I never said anything about it not being organic. I was referring to the comment that it's all just an opinion whether or not there are such things as bottled organic "nutes".
Look I'm no pro, I'm just here to learn, sorry if my reply was a little smart assed.

Oh, I never thought that either. Foxfarm claims that big bloom and tiger bloom are organic, and big bloom and grow big are what Ive been using on my two plants in soil. Grow big is semi organic, but Im gonna use straight guano and worm castings from now on. I got the high N and low P K for the rest of the veg, and high P and K for the bloom. I cant wait to see how it works. Are there any other organic additives I can use?

Anything in a bottle I would be leery of, even if the company makes that claim. Check out the stop sale list for Oregon tilth, or wsda, I can't recall which it is, but they list all the " organic" bottle nutes you can think of. For me, Thts just another reason to stay off the bottle! Haha

As far as additives, not sure if you mean something to supplement your feeding plan? Find the thread called 'botanicals'. Making up these teas, for me has worked out better than I even expected. For example, throw a cup or so of alfalfa meal in a 5 gal bucket, let it steep, mixing when u can remember for a few days or a week, them strain and water into your plants. Throw in a cup of kelp meal and you'll really be up and runnin.

Finally, take the time to read about building a soil. I'm sure someone has already recommended it, but I promise you that it's sooo worth it!
Good luck w everything and keep us posted mang!
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Edited by SkunkPatronus, 04 July 2012 - 07:07 PM.
jumped in too soon in the morning

Just to reiterate what Elvis said, if you were looking at a side-by-side of hydro and organic and the organic wasn't better or at least as good in all respects, I would challenge the soil skills of that person. Look at some of the organic journals here and tell me otherwise. I can't imagine anyone serious enough to do organics justice would even think of running hydro as well. The two just don't jive. I know you are looking at a fully organic hydro setup, which I am definitely interested in seeing! Please start a journal here for it