Reverse Engineering UFO technology

Discussion in 'Science and Nature' started by g0pher, Jun 15, 2012.

  1. [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxmHTfHD96w&feature=related]2010 UFO Convention - David Sereda - Reverse Engineered UFO's - YouTube[/ame]

    David Sereda present shocking evidence of Reverse Engineered UFO technology with new material from L... ockheed Martin Senior Scientist Boyd Bushman, Break-throughs in Differentials, crop circles and more. He will go deeper into his own presentation on Anti Gravity than ever before. David Sereda has appeared on national news and radios shows. He is a space scientist, ecologist, filmmaker and author focusing on Reverse Engineered UFO Technology.

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  2. just once I'd like to get past the 10 min mark of these video's before they start tossing out the crazy. Look, there is no link between sun spots and earthquakes. Youtube is filled with people trying to make that connection and every one of them either misunderstands the data they are using or just plain makes a connection that isn't backed by any data at all.

    The solar system doesn't have a frequency that it operates at. if there was we could tune a radio into it and listen to the information it's giving us, just like we do with every other physical event in the universe.


    Also what he says that Tesla said about his "death ray" is complete garbage. It'd be kinda hard for the guy to say it will melt a jet engine from any distance with no visible beam when jet's weren't even invented yet....
     
  3. #3 MelT, Jun 15, 2012
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    This is the same guy as from the previous movie on UFO's in another thread, the same guy who doesn't seem to know the difference between ice crystals and meteors. He also doesn't understand - or pretends not to - how particles too close to a camera lens can look like spheres, doughnuts and other things. But that IS the trouble with him, his arguments are so easy to debunk and he pretends otherwise. Remember, I'm a staunch believer, if this had any voracity whatsoever I really would back it too the hilt. This is more shoddy work from a less than reliable source.

    Save your time and energy. Read T's post above.

    EDIT: It should also be mentioned that this looney tune will do anything to self-promote. His last venture involved him claiming that he'd met Jesus>
    "...Jesus began to speak to me and took me on the most amazing discourse and journey of my life. I saw Hell, Purgatory and the multi level Heavens. In this book, people can learn what he told me, and also there are 2 more meetings with him, and one with Mary...."

    Yep, you can learn about it all in his book.


    NEXT!!!!!



    MelT
     
  4. Valuable input from the both of you, scepticsm first before blind faith, that is science.
    I hope other viewers can draw their own conclusions and share their own opinions as well.
     
  5. No, that is logic.

    It isn't skepticism before blind faith, rather a complete lack of evidence to the contrary.

    MelT
     
  6. Logic is the basis of science.
    And doesnt it all begin with speculation? Evidence comes after a hypothesis
     

  7. Science is evidence-based. It may or may not be arrived at by logic.

    Speculation ends when it has been proven wrong. Serada doesn't want to be wrong, so sustains pretence of continuing speculation.

    MelT
     
  8. Every hypothesis must falsified, but that does not mean it must be rejected.
    Must we not speculate? Must we not share ideas? Must we not provoke thought?
     
  9. Of course, but not on the basis of lies, misinformation, purposeful misinterpretation of the data, ignorance of basic photographic effects (this from someone who is a photographer) - and all from a man who claims to have met Jesus. How many things has he said so far about earthquakes, sunspots and all the rest of it that has been proven wrong, but yet Sereda still claims that's because 'they' don't want 'us' to know the truth?

    His ideas have already been examined and rejected. His defence is that because NASA disagrees with his interpretation of the movies, they are lying about UFO's. It's such an old game it's painful to watch. "I'm not wrong, I'm being repressed!!" No, it's a shoddy lie, designed to both hide the real truth and help give him validity. As I say elsewhere, a shady nut.

    Speculate about real evidence, not fictition. Share ideas about truth, not lies. Provoke thought by asking how many times must we be lied to by people like Sereda, who pretend to be telling us the truth?

    Tell me, do you think he's met Jesus and Mary?


    MelT
     
  10. #10 g0pher, Jun 15, 2012
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    This video is about reverse engeneering alien technologoly and advanced propulsion systems and how we can attain them, not the biography of David Sereda and Melts opinion of it.
    If a man proposes an idea to science, must we look at every aspect of his life and opinions therein before we consider it?

    Edit: You seem to forget that Newton believed in Jesus, angels and the demons, does that discredit his ideas and theories on scientific matters? I'm sure we can both agree that you would say no
     
  11. I ask again, do you think he really met Jesus and Mary?

    Sereda has never proposed an idea to science, ever. Al he's done is refuse to believe what NASA says the 'objects' are.

    MelT
     

  12. ^, that
     

  13. The video is indeed about "reverse engineering alien technology", and as others have said, it leaves a lot to be desired. It's clearly an impertinent and dubious way to attract gullible people into a lucrative business venture. Now, once we can declare such an agenda, it is reasonable to explore his background to understand why - MelT, clearly shows the depths of his integrity, which really should be the finality of anyone's trust on the matter.

    This isn't science, it is a charlatan who preys on the agreeable and easily influenced among us to fatten his pockets. It's a fraud, and a hoax and a fucking travesty that he is allowed to write a book that will sit in a library among the great works of science and literature. Furthermore, said with what humility i have, to give this man any credibility or to entertain his surreptitious plights with anything less than indignation is to allow him the opportunity to beguile those who are susceptible to complete bollocks.
     
  14. 'That' is pretty useless point. Newton can think what he likes when not talking about real science or formulating an hypothesis. If he were to have incorporated his ideas into a theory of gravity - without proof, as all of your claims are - then I guarantee nobody would take much notice of him either.

    Sereda is doing the opposite. He has no training in anything at all, no scientific background, and yet he's telling the world that science is wrong and that earthquakes are caused by sunspots.

    His new book/movie is about enlightenment, and on his site's splash page to advertise it he makes a series of incorrect statements about it all that even a novice would not make. But now we're expected to suck up the idea that he's a spiritual master on the basis of.....welll, nothing really. He says he is, just like he said he'd met Jesus. And you want us all to believe in him? Seriously, that would be insane.

    MelT
     
  15. Thats the problem with these UFOlogists, they want to be taken seriously by the scientific community but when you look at their track record you cringe
     
  16. My feelings exactly, the chump you link to is a perfect case in point.

    "..According to Maximillien de Lafayette, all of us are descendants of the Anunnaki, as a human race. But Lafayette also said that there were 46 different human races and 7 types of non-physical human prototypes who lived on earth..."

    "...The greatest (technique he offers) is the ARAWADI technique which helps you to enter in a parallel dimension not far away from earth, and dump there all physical and materialistic problems, and return as a new human being..."

    The Anunnaki were God's of ancient Sumer, so we can leave the first part right there - you can see how he might be keen to be considered to be a descendant of an Alien god, as he claims. The 46 human races and non-physical types have no basis in science and are his own invention and one of many nails he has hammered into his own coffin. The rest is appalling.

    If you ever read the name Maximillien de Lafayette connected with anything, run the other way. I just read this on a forum:

    "...FYI 'Maximillien De Lafayette' scam
    FYI Avoid anything dealing with annunaki/ufos/parapsychology etc. written by 'Maximillien De Lafayette' on amazon.com. Almost all the 4 and 5 star reviews are fake with the real ones exposing them as ripoffs getting unusual amounts of negative votes. These books are probably produced by a collective of writers and have a lot of shallow repeated information. At 30/40 bucks a pop it's best to avoid the disinformation...."

    Why is the UFO field filled with so many nuts? Easy money.

    MelT
     
  17. This is a long quote, but it really puts him and what he says in perspective.



    \t\t\t\t\tMaximillien de Lafayette \t\t\t\t

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    \t\t\t\t\t\t\tHave you guys seen this quack? He has about 500 self-published ebooks on Amazon.com. He has previously had more but they are often taken down at one point or another. The "books" if you want to call them that are completely plagiarized from places like wikipedia. If you read the reviews, they are often fake reviews by people that have only ever reviewed his books with the same writing style (obviously himself or someone he knows). (http://www.amazon.com/Maximillien-De...e/e/B002P9IPMY).

    He was on an episode of UFO Hunters when the topic was Unidentified Submerged Objects.

    From one of his reviews on Amazon.com

    \t \t\t \t\t\t \t\t\t \t\t\t\tMaximillien de Lafayette is the world's biggest online one man self-publishing scam artist, ever to con curious and unsuspecting readers out of their money, through his kindle and paperback books that are being sold via the internet.
    He came onto the online publishing scene about five years ago, with books on ufos, aliens, subterranean and aquatic alien bases, the Anunnaki and joint military-alien projects, and started compilations of notes/ research that were his own, as well as publications and research of others in this field, and published dozens of these books, with scant concern for the copyright violations he was committing, by not asking for, or receiving copyright permission from other authors and researchers to publish their work in his books. In february of 2010, Maximillien de Lafayette's contract with Amazon's publishing division (Createspace) was cancelled, due to the many complaints submitted by readers and other authors, whose work was being exploited for financial gain.
    He had a good run of it though, profiting off of the research and publications of others, for about 4 years, before it all came crashing down.

    Thinking of how to get back with Amazon/ Createspace publishing, he came up with the genius idea of telling me that his Anunnaki Ulema teacher and protector Mordachai ben Zvi came to heal him in the Chelsea Court apartment (in Manhattan) last year. He said we should republish the best selling books that were taken down by amazon, under my name, with him using the "nom de plume" Germain Lumiere.
    "ASHAR KITBU" was supposedly what Mordachai ben Zvi said to max, which in Anak'h means ten books. I had no idea what I was getting myself into, and having met him as a reader of his books and fan of the 'UFO HUNTERS" show on the History channel, felt bad about him suddenly being stripped of his online publishing income, and agreed to open a createspace account under my name. Something I should never have done with someone who just had his accounts cancelled due to publishing fraud and copyright violations, because a few months later the F.B.I. came to my door to question me about my association with him, and told me that we were both being investigated for online publishing fraud. My very first forays into writing, editing and publishing were now tainted with a fraud investigation because of him, and his devious publishing practices.

    That account was cancelled also, but Maximillien de Laughayette was not one to be dissuaded from trying again. This time with lulu online publishing and amazon kindle.
    The only loophole for him to get amazon to advertise his books again, was to publish with them on kindle. Something he had never done before, and the only avenue left for him to use with amazon.

    Aside from the Anunnaki and alien/ ufology books, Maxie has come up with a very sly and successful gimmick: the art of publishing compilations of photos and articles pulled together from different websites and internet sources - on any given subject - which are then published and sold to you, the curious and unsuspecting reader, as some kind of masterpiece rare collection that has never been done before.
    Only Maximillien's english is not good, and these pages are filled with grammatical and spelling errors, with poor to no editing, and bad formatting.
    This egocentric narcissist "author" fills the first twenty or more pages with lists of his other publications, and publishes at least one or two of these books every week.

    I would watch him pouring over his sales daily to see which books were selling the most - and it turned out to be his tabloid trash "Hollywood Scandals and Sex Pests and Divas and Femme Fatales" compilations of utter garbage!!
    Money always being his bottom line, he prices these books to maximize his profits, depending on whether it's the $9.99 kindle deal, where he gets 70%, or the other premium packages to widen distribution channels, where he prices the book according to what he wants to receive per copy of book sold/ downloaded.
    The quality of the text, format, editing and overall production is of minimal concern to him. These internet compilations are rush jobs that are Max's specialty.
    To further confuse and bait the first time curious and unsuspecting reader, he writes many of his own five star reviews, under different names for each book.
    A tell-tale sign: Max always refers to himself in the third person (I was a witness to this several times myself in person last year), by saying "and Lafayette said this" or "Lafayette said that" and "Lafayette is the foremost authority on this" and "Lafayette did not spare anybody" and "Lafayette exposed them all".

    For the potential reader/ buyer who reads his reviews, pay attention to the ones with the lowest stars (not the 5 star reviews that are almost all of his own making), the ones written by amazon verified purchasers, and people who used their real names.

    I have included one of my own, as it is currently posted on amazon:

    WASTE OF TIME AND MONEY!!, March 21, 2011

    By Angelique Doudnikova (New York, NY) - See all my reviews
    (REAL NAME)
    This review is from: THE WORLD GREATEST FEMALE SINGERS: Eastern Europe Best Singers and Entertainers. PART ONE. VOL 1. Part 2 (THE GREATEST FEMALE SINGERS AND PERFORMERS IN EASTER EUROPE) (Kindle Edition)
    Attention to all potential buyers/ readers of this book:

    The material herein is merely a compilation from various websites, archives and internet sources.

    Maximillien de Lafayette's command of the english language is not good, with many grammatical and spelling errors to be found within these pages, as well as poor editing.
    You only need to read the mistakes made in the title of this book, to see the beginning of page after page after page of errors, which occur throughout his books, unless they have been edited and proof-read by someone else, who is proficient in english.
    These types of compilations are rush jobs that are Max's specialty.

    Having lived with him and worked with him for much of last year, I should know.
    The books I painstakingly worked on with him were a labor of love for me.
    But I have still not been compensated for my work, and those books have been republished by this "author" with my name as co-writer/ editor removed.

    Maximillien de Lafayette thinks it is ok to steal all the credit for my work, intellectual ideas and input for himself, as well as all the profits.
    He also thinks it is ok to pay for his radio show (where he advertises his books) by making unauthorized charges to my bank account for the last six months,
    since he had me forcibly removed from the apartment by telling lies to the police, to throw me out at 4:30am, friday October 8th, 2010, after an argument ensued,
    when I woke up to find him having published a book we had been working on together "PHOTOS THAT SHOOK THE WORLD", and he had deleted my name from it as co-writer and editor.

    Do not feed this narcisisstic man's ego with your money or you time on this, as you will be disappointed.
    Anyone can come up with an idea to hodge - podge together a compilation of any kind, on any subject, by pulling together a bunch of articles and photos from various
    websites. AND THAT IS WHAT THIS IS.
    NO REAL WRITER TRULY WORTH HIS SALT, PUTS OUT AN ORIGINAL BOOK EVERY WEEK!!

    Maximillien de Lafayette does not have the time or the patience to sit down and write something really original, meaningful and worthwhile, about the human condition, human cultures and societies, a masterpiece/ quality book that will stand the test of time.
    He is only out to put as much stock - or rather as much schlock - as he possibly can, on all kinds of subjects, in the online publishing world.
    A successful gimmick, to catch as many first time curious and unsuspecting readers as possible.
    Your money is his bottom line. That is the only thing that matters to him, and not the quality of the material you are buying from him.

    BUYER BEWARE!!
    (Germaine Poitiers is a fictional persona maximillien uses on facebook, to advertise his books in the third person, as if it is really someone else.
    Having lived with him on a daily basis, I saw him posting on facebook as Germaine Poitiers and Carol Lexter to advertise his own books. These are just
    more fake personas he uses to legitimize his work as collaborations, in the eyes of his readers. Collaborators who don't exist, who never worked on the books, whom he never has to pay - like me - or face up to in the REAL WORLD. I never approved of this behaviour, and never understood why he chose to do this, but now I know why.) \t\t\t \t\t
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  18. ^ lol my goodness
    Its easy money and sadly they get it
    These are the guys who put the whole study to shame
     
  19. You know, really you and I should join forces, I still am a believer. We don't have to agree on everything, but I would be happy to help where I can with the history of UFO cases, etc.

    MelT
     

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