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Becoming a first time veganic grow?

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raskama

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I need alot of help and advice i want too do a strictly veganic grow? Anyone have some information?

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I need alot of help and advice i want too do a strictly veganic grow? Anyone have some information?


Vegetable Compost ( Garden shops or Nurserys)
Kelp Meal at a rate of about 1 cup per cf
Alfalfa Meal - any animal feed store, $15-20/ 50lbs.

Now do you believe harvesting worm shit hurts the worms and isn't vegan? If you don't, hopefully, make it about 25% of your mix if possible.

Aerate that shit with some untreated perlite, rice/barley/wheat hulls, or lava rock.

Rocks are important, the minerals are key in organic growing. So if possible source small amounts of multiple kinds. I go almost 3 cups/cf.

Done.


Read all the other stickies, like Higher Organic Learning, Growing indoors without bottled nutes in the Indoor Growing section. Anything you can think of, someone already did and screwed up so use all these threads to your advantage. You will notice treads with brands and amazing results from such, its worth the extra money for quality here. After all, one mix could last your years.

And feel free to go to my Gardening Books FTW thread and download some free books.

Edited by SoooHaggard, 03 June 2012 - 03:20 AM.


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I need alot of help and advice i want too do a strictly veganic grow? Anyone have some information?


There's no real difference in a organic grow from a veganic grow. Just all organic without animal based amendments.

My question in response to your question, Why Veganic? What makes you feel like its a much more superior grow method that you want to do a complete veganic grow?

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There's no real difference in a organic grow from a veganic grow. Just all organic without animal based amendments.

My question in response to your question, Why Veganic? What makes you feel like its a much more superior grow method that you want to do a complete veganic grow?


Could be ethics instead of superior, honestly my mix is almost vegan. Blood can suck on alfalfa all day. Feather meal can suck on my Glacial Rock Dust.

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Could be ethics instead of superior, honestly my mix is almost vegan. Blood can suck on alfalfa all day. Feather meal can suck on my Glacial Rock Dust.


Good point! On ethics!

My grow is mostly vegan as well, other than my bokashi mix, thats almost all animal lol. I got two different kinds of bat guano, chicken manure, bone meal, shoot i'm even planning making some fish hydrolysate and using the rest of the fish material for my bokashi as well lol

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Vegans give vegetarians a gnawing in the stomach.

The most useless and uninformed people on the planet - you can only line breed a species so far.

Diluting their gene pool with outside sperm contributors would be helpful and probably necessary if they want to protect the clan. The 'culling of the herd' paradigm has hit them hard and furious

Edited by ComfreyQuery, 03 June 2012 - 06:44 PM.


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Vegans give vegetarians a gnawing in the stomach.

The most useless and uninformed people on the planet - you can only line breed a species so far.

Diluting their gene pool with outside sperm contributors would be helpful and probably necessary if they want to protect the clan. The 'culling of the herd' paradigm has hit them hard and furious


Ok your LD, its final

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Mahalo everybody for the info! Well heres an update on what i have so far no pic yet im sorry.

I have 4 Afghan Queens growing there in seedling stage.
Date started: 5/29 popped: 6/3
2 seedlings in coco soil.
2 seedlings in Black and Gold organic soil.

Planning on buying:
•Roots organic soil,
•Alfalfa,
•Kelp Meal,
•Worm Compost,
•Bat Guano
Is there anything else i should use during my Seedling/Vegetive stages.

Im thinking of using a 60 watt Daylight CFL, for somedays but i need to figure out a schedule.

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Don't waste your money buying roots organics soil. Spend a little bit of time reading some of the soil building threads instead. Your pocketbook will be heavier and you will be happier in the long run knowing that you built it yourself.

Don't differentiate between seedling vegetative or flowering stages. Build one good soil and use it for everything.

don't forget the kelp meal.

Jerry.

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Ok im gonna look and research on soils and organic nutes. I would also like to know is fish emulsion any good?

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I thought you said you wanted to garden "Vegan"?

How can fish be vegan?

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Ok my bad my bad no fish emulsion lol.

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Ill have pics up tonight!

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Ok im gonna look and research on soils and organic nutes. I would also like to know is fish emulsion any good?


What kind of Organic "nutes" are you thinking of?

Also did I see you were going to use bat guano? Is that vegan, too? Excuse my ignorance, I'm not completely sure what vegan means - not exactly anyhow...

Jerry

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Ok my bad my bad no fish emulsion lol.


Oh, I didn't say it wasn't - I'm kinda learning here, too.

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back in the journals chunk posted some pictures of a plant that was grown with nothing besides kelp meal as a nutrient, the plant looked just beautiful at the end, all fall colors and no deficiency - in a relative sense- compared to the common conditions described by the word "deficiency" on cannabis grow forums

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Thank you hope2toke for the good info and letting me know about the kelp meal grow.

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As for Jerry imma research more on veganic growing and let you know ok bro

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Raskama -

It's really none of my business, but you can grow a beautiful organic garden without putting the word "vegan" in it. Around here many of us use mostly plant-based nutrients that we make ourselves anyhow. Why limit yourself? Do some reading in the organic section on building your own soil mixes and come to your own conclusions. I do use horse manure and chicken manure between my earthworm castings bins, in my compost heap, etc - my plants and worms love it. I don't believe that true vegans use manures.

Best of luck whichever way you choose.

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Thank you so much for that information I think I will use some manure and give it a try my grandma told me they used to use chicken and bat guano back in the days and.she said it works perfect. So im gonna build a soil mix and update this thread soon ok. Pics coming soon! Also gna build a compost bin.


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