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I have been experimenting/making/taking cannabis infused butter/oil for about the last 3 years now. I have the method down to what I think provides some pretty good oil now, I can find it if anybody wants. I followed BKS basic tenets, but I use a crock-pot and a little longer cooking times. I have been using this cannabis coconut oil to help with my intestines.... I get some weird symptoms after I eat cannabis that I believe to be a good thing, but was wondering if it happened to anybody else, especially with intestinal issues?

My intestinal bloating and discomfort issues are solved with the oil, but I also get "body wide symptoms." When I eat a bunch of the oil, I get really stuffed up in my sinuses. This last batch of oil seems to be a little more potent. My mucus in my sinuses is colored and almost like I have the flu. When I take the oil, about 2-3 hours later my sinuses start to run and I get clogged up. I hack and cough up this yellow/brownish mucus pretty much the whole time I have the cannabis in my system. The next morning, I usually have to clear some nasty mucus, but then I feel fine and almost 'clean'/detoxed. I can also eat sugar and carbs when I eat a lot of cannabis. Items I usually can't touch when I'm not eating cannabis. My 'movements' the next morning are pretty much jumping to get out, as well ;)

I'm wondering if the cannabis oil I've been taking is somehow anti-microbial to anything nasty in my intestines, and possibly driving out resistant/dormant infections deep from within my immune system? I usually get tonsil-stones and when I eat cannabis, they are greatly reduced. I believe the tonsil-stones have something to do with my intestinal issues, and more specifically to my lymphatic system overridden with some sort of infection/toxin. When I eat the cannabis, it seems to make my mucus have the same 'tinge'/essence as what the stones are made of and I'm hypothesizing that cannabis allows my body to 'super clean' parts of the body, specifically the lymphatic systems, which is connected to the intestines and integral in the immune system.

Anyone? Am I rambling? I will consult google later and try to find some more info. Just wondering if anyone else gets similar flu-like/stuffed up type reactions?

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My wife gets relapses of some of her chemo symptoms while on cannabis oil- not to the same degree and they are just temporary. Things like loss of taste, sensitivity in her feet, watery eyes which were originally symtoms associated with her original chemo regimine. Not sure why this is, but glad it is just temporary. A family member thinks that the cannabis is pulling out the last of the chemo stored in the fat tissue and that this could be why these symptoms reappear. I am sure if she had never done chemo that she would not be getting these weird side effects.

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When you say eat, do you ever mean raw flower?
I've seen some allergy like symptoms depending on the fertilizer or if the plants were grew in proximity to other pollen spreading plants.
Do you notice the same issues with ALL oil, or is it only some batches?
It would be interesting to grow a plant with very minimal additives and see if the same issues occur.
Does this happen around an allergy season?
Does eating it raw provide any benefit or similar reaction?
Based on your description, it seems to almost sound like an allergy kind of thing. What if you take the oil with a couple antihistamine? :)

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My wife takes her cannabis oil extract in the form of capsules mixed with coconut oil and soy lecithin. The cannabis oil was extracted using 94% ethanol. What we grow is totally organic so there are no chemical fertilizers, pesticides, or herbicides involved. These symptoms only appear at very large doseages equivalent to taking in the extract of 1/2 to 1 pound of bud in a single month. Lower dosages are fine. The symptoms are dose related and have nothing to do with seasonal influences. My opinion is that these side effects are directly related to the chemo she received (chemo stopped about one year ago) since they are not considered as common side effects to taking in cannabis oil. I did notice the side effects were worse while she was on Sativa based oil and as I am introducing more Indica based oil they are subsiding a little bit.
She was consuming juice extracted from raw buds for a few months but it appeared that she was developing lower intestinal pain doing this so for the time being she has stopped the juicing.

Edited by rabbitgarden, 23 May 2012 - 11:40 AM.


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My wife gets relapses of some of her chemo symptoms while on cannabis oil- not to the same degree and they are just temporary. Things like loss of taste, sensitivity in her feet, watery eyes which were originally symtoms associated with her original chemo regimine. Not sure why this is, but glad it is just temporary. A family member thinks that the cannabis is pulling out the last of the chemo stored in the fat tissue and that this could be why these symptoms reappear. I am sure if she had never done chemo that she would not be getting these weird side effects.


Thanks for adding rabbitgarden! My eyes also get pretty watery when I experience these symptoms.

When you say eat, do you ever mean raw flower?
I've seen some allergy like symptoms depending on the fertilizer or if the plants were grew in proximity to other pollen spreading plants.
Do you notice the same issues with ALL oil, or is it only some batches?
It would be interesting to grow a plant with very minimal additives and see if the same issues occur.
Does this happen around an allergy season?
Does eating it raw provide any benefit or similar reaction?
Based on your description, it seems to almost sound like an allergy kind of thing. What if you take the oil with a couple antihistamine? :)


Thanks for coming up with some ideas, widowbaker.

I dry the herb and then use it for making edible oil with coconut oil. I've never used fresh plant material in making of oil.
I usually get these symptoms whenever I take larger amounts of oil. I've noticed the symptoms more with this batch, but I think that may have more to do with the unique cannabinoids with this specific plant. There is nothing else in the grow room to introduce any sort of pollen or other allergens.... I would put myself in the 'uber organic'/'organic snob' category. I don't even use blood meal or bovine bone meal. Most of my inputs are plant based and are usually what I would consider safe for human consumption/'food grade'.
I was extensively tested for common allergens when I was a child, and to my knowledge and based on my experience, I am not allergic to anything.
I will have to try eating some raw, fresh buds. But I just started vegging my next round so it may be a few . . .

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I'm kind of off in left field when it comes to healthcare and related topics. I know healthcare should be ranked right up there with politics and religion on the "do not discuss meter." I'll try to explain more of what I think is going on with my body.
It's my belief that my intestines are over run/infected with some sort of bacteria or fungi that is causing my health conditions. I don't believe in the western medicine idea that you are either sick or healthy, sterile or infected. I haven't been to a 'traditional' doctor in quite some time and feel I have better treated myself than anyone with some letters before or after their name. I put more faith in natural doctors, acupuncturist, herbalists, and maybe even a shaman, before a western doctor. Our body is always seeking balance, which cannot be achieved with their poisons.

To put it basically, I think my intestines have a 'bad bug' that is somewhat dormant/constrained. The 'bug' is causing all these symptoms in my body, but since I'm not bed-ridden with explosive diarrhea, 'normal' doctors don't think anything is wrong with me. My body can't get rid of the bug. But on the same page the bug can't flourish and reproduce without restraint. Essentially my body and the bug are engaged in a stalemate. If I eat like shit, carbs, processed foods, and sugar; this feeds the bug and then it can flourish more and cause me negative symptoms. Since I've been restricting my diet and doing other things, my body can better fight the bug and I am more healthy currently.
I know western medicine is big on diagnosis. The specific cause of what is causing me these symptoms is inconsequential to me. I just want to return to being healthy. Plus I know what their course of treatment will probably be. Steroids, antibiotics, antacids, antidepressants or probably a combo. All of which I don't do.
Most of the symptoms, basically that of a head cold and severe nighttime congestion, originated when I was taking opiate pain pills. They were very good at 'clogging' up my shit and causing severe constipation. I think it was at this time (a few years ago) that I either was infected by a bad bacteria/fungi in my gut, bacteria moved from my colon to my small intestines, and/or yeast/fungi are overgrown in my gut due to shitty diet and antibiotics. Since there were times I wouldn't poo for days, the nasty bugs could have a field day on my system. Taking antibiotics and eating like shit at the same time an anaerobic environment was in my gut, made a perfect environment for disease. It showed up and is still there.
I think a lot of intestinal issues are mis-understood by western medicine. When I drink a lot of milk, I get stuffed up. It's not due to the casein or the milk, I believe it is due to the lactose. Since lactose is just milk sugar that we are poor at digesting, bacteria do the digestion and their shit (essentially) taxes our intestines and our immune systems and the cleaning process produces more mucus to rid the toxins.

I don't know what everyone's personal views are, so I'll just ramble more. In natural medicine, the symptoms of the disease usually get worse right when you start taking an effective remedy. It is sometimes referred to as the Herxheimer reaction. Essentially as whatever treatment you are doing initially kills off numerous nasty bugs, your bodies symptoms will get worse for a bit while the system handles the toxins. I just made this new batch and have been taking it heavily for the past week. I was on vacation from work and was able to take ample doses of the oil I made. I usually don't take 'enough' oil during the week, as some times I am still pretty messed up the next day and can't work. On the weekends is usually when I get the stuffy/drainy/head cold like symptoms, and that is when I take more oil. Since I've been taking so much oil recently on my vacation, I have been getting the symptoms worse.
I am simply wondering if it is a good thing, or if it is a bad thing?
Half of me thinks it is a good thing as cannabis oil stimulates my intestines and subsequently my immune system. I think it may be 'scouring'/deeply cleaning out my gut and is essentially driving all these bugs up from the background. Once they are 'in the foreground', my system must deal with them and ultimately fight them. They can no longer hide out and cause me all sorts of little chronic issues. My system is fully combating them and that is essentially why I am currently 'sick'.
But then there is a part of me that says these symptoms mimic exactly what the opiates were doing, so it may be hampering my intestines and causing harm in the long run. I kind of don't think this as much, because cannabis regulates my intestines, my 'movements', and eases bloating/cramping issues. Plus I feel like the cannabis is cleaning me. Most of my chronic, 'petty' issues are gone when I eat cannabis. (Tonsil stones, bad taste in mouth, halitosis, sinus/ear/respiratory issues, lower back pain, shoulder pain, headaches, 'stoned' feeling all the time, depression, ...)

Ideally, I would keep taking amounts to keep causing this reaction in my body to continue to try to determine whether is was healing or not. I don't think my work situation will allow it, so I am trying to get others who use cannabis for intestinal issues to relate a bit. I've been thinking about growing a lot of herb and trying to get a month off and just go wild on the oil to see it taking more physical amounts would maybe be "the magic bullet" in my quest for health. This is a new batch of oil, but it is based on a technique I have been honing for a few years now. I'm hoping this oil is the magic bullet, and is just super-potent/effective and will finally cure my gut issues.

Edited by Stankie, 23 May 2012 - 03:37 PM.


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Have you considered replacing the butter in your cannabis infusion with coconut oil as I believe this would help with your digestive problems. Also if you could get your hands on or enteric coat some probiotic capsules. The reason I mention this is that stomach acid kills most of the probiotics that people take. Most probiotics are not enteric coated due to the additional costs involved. If you have a problem with bad bacteria outumbering the good ones, this could help. The sinus thing sounds like the cannabis is helping. For your sinuses, just a suggestion. You know how the Jamaican's smoke weed - they don't take it into their lungs but into their sinus cavity and blow it out that way. Makes them look like firebreathing dragons. Anyways my thought was to maybe try smoking some weed that way and see what effect it has on this sinus thing as you would have direct contact with cannabinoids that way. I am guessing you will be able to tell fairly quickly if it is making things worse or better. Here is an article about coconut oil's benefits for people with digestive disorders.

Coconut Oil for Digestive Disorders

Coconut Oil for Digestive Disorders

Excerpts from: Shilhavy, Brian & Marianity Jader, "Crohn's Disease, Irritable Bowel Syndrome, Ulcerative Colitis, and Virgin Coconut Oil" in Virgin Coconut Oil, West Bend, Wisconsin USA, West Bend, Wisconsin, Tropical Traditions, Inc., 2005, p. 62.

If you saw a newspaper headline which stated "Crohn's Disease Patients Find Relief by Eating Cookies" you may think the editor was a little kooky. Dr. L.A. Cohen of the Naylor Dana Institute for Disease Prevention in Valhalla New York wouldn't think so, not if the cookies were made with coconut.

Dr. Cohen notes the ease with which medium chain fatty acids (MCFA) in coconut oil are digested and absorbed and says they "have found use in the clinic as a means to provide high energy lipid to patients with disorders of lipid digestion (pancreatitis) lipid absorption (Crohn's disease), and lipid transport (chylomicron deficiency)."

Eating coconut cookies has made an impact on Gerald Brinkley, a Crohn's disease sufferer for 30 years. "When I read that eating coconut macaroons could ease symptoms," Brinkley says, "I decided to try them myself. Coincidence or not, my symptoms have improved since I began eating two cookies a day."

Crohn's disease is an inflammatory intestinal disease characterized by diarrhea, abdominal pain, bleeding ulcers, bloody stools, anemia, and weight loss. Ulcerations can occur anywhere along the digestive tract from the mouth to the rectum.

Ulcerative colitis is a similar disease that affects the colon—the lower part of the intestinal tract. At times these chronic conditions can become debilitating. The ability of the intestines to absorb food is hampered which may lead to nutritional deficiencies. Sufferers find that certain foods aggravate symptoms and are, therefore, constantly challenged to find foods that they can tolerate.

Reports suggest that coconut may offer relief from symptoms and prevent digestive distress. Teresa Graedon, Ph.D. co-author of The People's Pharmacy Guide to Herbal and Home Remedies says during the research for her book she heard enough testimonials about the benefit of using coconut for Crohn's disease that she was convinced that this is one home remedy that may have important medical significance and believes strongly that more research should be pursued in this area.

I have also heard similar stories. For example, one occurred in Hawaii and involved a small child that suffered from an intestinal problem so severe that most any food, including milk, aggravated symptoms. The child was wasting away because he couldn't tolerate most of the foods he was given. A native Hawaiian told the mother to feed the child the "jelly" inside an immature coconut.

She took the woman's advice and the child thrived eating a diet consisting primarily of coconut jelly. Knowing what we do scientifically about the digestibility of coconut oil, it makes sense that it would be of benefit to those with digestive problems.

Interestingly enough researchers have demonstrated the benefits of coconut oil on patients with digestive problems, including, Crohn's disease, at least since the 1980s. The anti-inflammatory and healing effects of coconut oil apparently play a role in soothing inflammation and healing injury in the digestive tract which are characteristic of Crohn's disease.

Its antimicrobial properties also affects intestinal health by killing troublesome microorganisms that may cause chronic inflammation.

While the cause of Crohn's disease is still unknown, many doctors feel it is the result of a bacterial or viral infection. Stomach ulcers, for example, are caused primarily by the bacterium H. pyloris.

The bacteria bore into the stomach wall causing ulcerations and discomfort characteristic of the condition. It's possible that this bacterium or a similar one could also infect other areas of the digestive tract.

Several studies have shown that the measles and mumps viruses might be involved. A persistent low-grade measles infection in the intestine is common in many Crohn's and ulcerative colitis patients. The infection is localized in the digestive tract so it does not cause a full-scale case of the measles.

Those who have had measles or mumps in the past and now suffer from some type of inflammatory bowel disease (1BD) such as Crohn's disease of ulcerative colitis are likely to harbor a low-grade intestinal infection that the body has not been able to overcome. The evidence for measles infection as a cause or at least a contributing factor in IBD is very convincing.

In one study, for example, 36 Crohn's disease patients, 22 ulcerative colitis patients, and 89 people free of IBD symptoms (controls) were tested. Twenty-eight of the 36 Crohn's disease patients (78%) and 13 of 22 ulcerative colitis patients (59%) tested positive to the measles virus as compared to only 3 of 89 (3.3%) controls.

H. pylori bacteria and the measles virus are both killed by the MCFA in coconut oil. If the symptoms characteristic in Crohn's disease and ulcerative colitis are also caused by these or some other microorganism then coconut oil may be beneficial in treating these conditions.

Eating macaroons to ease symptoms of Crohn's disease, as strange as it may sound, does have some scientific backing. For those who have Crohn's disease, ulcerative colitis, stomach ulcers, or other digestive problems you don't have to eat coconut cookies to get relief. Eating foods rich in Virgin Coconut Oil, which is high in MCFAs, would work just as well if not better.
Digestion and Nutrient Absorption of Coconut Oil

For at least five decades researchers have recognized that the medium chain fatty acids (MCFAs) in coconut oil were digested differently than other fats. This difference has had important applications in the treatment of many digestive and metabolic health conditions and since that time MCFA have been routinely used in hospital and baby formulas.

The digestive health advantages of medium-chain fatty acids (MCFA) over long-chain fatty acids (LCFA) are due to the differences in the way our bodies metabolize these fats. Because the MCFA molecules are smaller, they require less energy and fewer enzymes to break them down for digestion. They are digested and absorbed quickly and with minimal effort.

MCFA are broken down almost immediately by enzymes in the saliva and gastric juices so that pancreatic fat-digesting enzymes are not even essential.Therefore, there is less strain on the pancreas and digestive system. This has important implications for patients who suffer from digestive and metabolic problems.

Premature and ill infants especially whose digestive organs are underdeveloped, are able to absorb MCFA with relative ease, while other fats pass through their systems pretty much undigested. People who suffer from malabsorption problems such as cystic fibrosis, and have difficulty digesting or absorbing fats and fat soluble vitamins, benefit greatly from MCFA.

They can also be of importance for people suffering from diabetes, obesity, gallbladder disease, pancreatitis, Crohn's disease, pancreatic insufficiency, and some forms of cancer.

As we get older our bodies don't function as well as they did in earlier years. Our pancreas doesn't make as many digestive enzymes, our intestines don't absorb nutrients as well, the whole process of digestion and elimination moves at a lower rate of efficiency.

As a result, older people often suffer from vitamin and mineral deficiencies. Because MCFA are easy to digest and improve vitamin and mineral absorption they should be included in the meals of older people. This is easy to do if the meals are prepared with coconut oil.

Unlike other fatty acids, MCFA are absorbed directly from the intestines into the portal vein and sent straight to the liver where they are, for the most part, burned as fuel.

Other fats require pancreatic enzymes to break them into smaller units. They are then absorbed into the intestinal wall and packaged into bundles of fat (lipid) and protein called lipoproteins. These lipoproteins are carried by the lymphatic system, bypassing the liver, and then dumped into the bloodstream, where they are circulated throughout the body.

As they circulate in the blood, their fatty components are distributed to all the tissues of the body. The lipoproteins get smaller and smaller, until there is little left of them. At this time they are picked up by the liver, broken apart, and used to produce energy or, if needed, repackaged into other lipoproteins and sent back into the bloodstream to be distributed throughout the body.

Cholesterol, saturated fat, monounsaturated fat, and polyunsaturated fat are all packaged together into lipoproteins and carried throughout the body in this way. In contrast, MCFA are not packaged into lipoproteins but go to the liver where they are converted into energy. Ordinarily they are not stored to any significant degree as body fat. MCFA produce energy. Other dietary fats produce body fat.

Inside each of our cells is an organ called the mitochondria. The energy needed by the cell to carry on its functions is generated by the mitochondria. Mitochondria are encased in two membranous sacs which normally require special enzymes to transport nutrients through them.

MCFA are unique in that they can easily permeate both membranes of the mitochondria without the need of enzymes and thus provide the cell with a quick and efficient source of energy. Longer chain fatty acids demand special enzymes to pull them through the double membrane, and the energy production process is much slower and taxing on enzyme reserves.

Because of the above advantages, coconut oil has been a lifesaver for many people, particularly the very young and the very old. It is used medicinally in special food preparations for those who suffer digestive disorders and have trouble digesting fats. For the same reason, it is also used in infant formula for the treatment of malnutrition.

Since it is rapidly absorbed, it can deliver quick nourishment without putting excessive strain on the digestive and enzyme systems and help conserve the body's energy that would normally be expended in digesting other fats. Medium-chain fatty acids comprise a major ingredient in most infant formulas commonly used today.

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Thanks, but I use coconut oil and some lecithin, in the crock pot. I've been using the oil for about a year now. I think that may add some to it's effectiveness.

I really like to cook with the pure coconut oil as well. I think my reaction is definitely due to the cannabinoids that are extracted during the processing.

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Hey, Stankie, did you know that cannabis is a natural expectorant? If you notice that you are expelling a lot of mucus after medicating, it's because that's what cannabis is supposed to do. It breaks up the mucus in your system, and helps your body to expel it.

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Have you considered kefir grains? Either sugar based or milk based?
I'm mobile right now, but if you haven't looked into it, they may be of some help to not only your digestive issues but also at fighting the bacteria.

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Sinus thing - If it's activating your immune system could it be flushing out buildup from smoking?

Milk is very well known for causing the body to make tons of mucus... ever hear of dr. Earhert's mucusless diet? He has some crazy ideas but I tried fasting and it gave me some relief.

I hear indicas are a lot better for their healing than sativas...

I need to read this and will get back to you... I have lots of similar questions and my digestion problems are killing me! cannabis helps so much. :-/

Edited by nerdinerdiness, 24 May 2012 - 03:36 AM.


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Hey, Stankie, did you know that cannabis is a natural expectorant? If you notice that you are expelling a lot of mucus after medicating, it's because that's what cannabis is supposed to do. It breaks up the mucus in your system, and helps your body to expel it.


I didn't really know that, actually. I always smoked herb when I had/have the cold or flu, so I guess it makes sense.
Like rabbitgarden mentioned in his previous post, sometimes I use a vape and exhale it through my sinuses. It doesn't do any where near what eating it does. What I am experiencing is beyond a little extra mucus. I think more weed is what I need :)

Have you considered kefir grains? Either sugar based or milk based?
I'm mobile right now, but if you haven't looked into it, they may be of some help to not only your digestive issues but also at fighting the bacteria.


I've tried almost every pro-biotic one can procure. Bacteria, yeast, enteric coated, soil organisms, purposefully eating spoiled food, I've brewed my own mix. I have even considered Helminthic therapy, but I haven't gone there yet.
The brew I have learned to make helped me the most. I still use it.


Sinus thing - If it's activating your immune system could it be flushing out buildup from smoking?

Milk is very well known for causing the body to make tons of mucus... ever hear of dr. Earhert's mucusless diet? He has some crazy ideas but I tried fasting and it gave me some relief.

I hear indicas are a lot better for their healing than sativas...

I need to read this and will get back to you... I have lots of similar questions and my digestion problems are killing me! cannabis helps so much. :-/


I think it is more activating my immune system and/or cleaning my intestines of low-grade/chronic infections that cause all my symptoms and that is the main reaction, is to expel the toxins through mucus.

I'll look into that diet. Never heard of it before. The symptoms I'm having are definitely related to me eating cannabis, and I am starting to think of them as a good thing more and more, but still ain't sure :confused_2:

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Stankie, I was going to suggest that you start fermenting vegetables, then read that you've "brewed your own" probiotics and they seem to work best. If that is different than lacto-fermented vegetables, I suggest you try it. It's easy! Do you like sauerkraut?

Fermented Food for Beginners: Lacto-Fermented Vegetables

I would definitely avoid all dairy products, and sugar. And if you ever ingest any artificially sweetened products or chew ANY gum, please stop. Aspartame is deadly and is even in regular old Wrigley's gum now.

Love Mary

PS I'm hoping to try fermenting some cannabis leaf--why not!

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As pearl75 said. Cannabis naturally contains expectorants and acts as a bronchial dilator. Which means it will clear your airway helping you breath easier.

Some cannabinoids also have anti-bacterial and anti fungal properties. During the summer I get a mild fungus on parts of my arm. Treating it directly with hash oil has helped more than dermatologist prescribed topicals! Check the pics in this thread out for more info

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