Want to start

So i want to start growing i want the smallest place posable while i can keep it hidden perferably in my closet but my closet does not have doors. I have an area i would like to use thats about 2 feet from the shelf.

The thing is i also need to make sure it doesnt smell so i need some idea of how to vent it.

I am a 100% beginner i hear alot of good things about PC cases but i hear alot of bad things about them to. I was thnking of finding a mini fridge in like the junk yard or something like that and just using that.

So any tips would be nice and very appreciated. Also what type of seeds should i get because that would be a pretty small area to grow in.

Thanks to anyone that can help me.

Carbon filter for the smell. Also just look throw all the journals in this forum section to get ideas on how you can set everything up. Research my friend. A lot of research.

Yeah iv been looking at alot of other mico posts i like Hyp's posts

How much are you looking to achive yeild wise? How much money do you got to spend? How much watt/electricity can you spend a month? How stealth does the sound, smell and general apperence have to be? There are so many different types of grow areas to build, i am sure we can find something that fits you

How much are you looking to achive yeild wise? How much money do you got to spend? How much watt/electricity can you spend a month? How stealth does the sound, smell and general apperence have to be? There are so many different types of grow areas to build, i am sure we can find something that fits you

I am looking for a good yeild that is manageable for the small area.
I want to spend under $100 for everything together i heard thats very posable.
I would like to keep the electricity as low as i can so i heard LED Lights are the best for that.
The smell has to be very slight if any the sound it just cant be like yelling i always have a fan going anyways so i should be fine there.

Also if i want -Pressure it would be smartest to have two output fans and one input fan? I know alot of PC cases have multiple fans.

Edited by Beastb, 19 May 2012 - 02:14 PM.

will reply later when i got time. Gotta lvl some diablo 3 first ^^

Oh by the way, could you post a picture of the area you were thinking to use, and the closet? Will try to give you a suggestion for possible builds/setups. Also what venting possibilities do you have? Can you drill in the walls or allready got a passive/active wall vent close by? and where is closest window?

I am currently LAN'ing diablo 3 with some friends so do not got the time right now. But will make a reply with all the specs, math and links to DIY's later tonight if you are interested. Think we can make something awesome O cheap for you

Okay this is the area i want to use this dimentions are in the picture


As for venting i was trying to figure something out for that putting a hole in my wall wont work to well my window is on another wall next to it about 10ft away

As far as venting goes i was just planing to make a carbon filter

that is not much space to work with and a low budget to optimize. You could fit two computer grows inside there, you could custom build a grow cabinet out of plywood or you could build a frame and make a small air proof tent. Dont know what you allready got of equiptment and material lying around.

You need to buy fans, lights, and reflective material/paint. You also need soil/air pumps, container(s) and nutrients, PH-meter etc. You can DIY the pots/hydro, carbon fiter and reflectors. You should consider to either LST or ScrOG such a small space verticaly.

You need to look around for theese things. Led wont be a option on such a low budget. CFL is probably only solution unless your going to build a aircooled hood for a low watt HID.

Also if i want -Pressure it would be smartest to have two output fans and one input fan? I know alot of PC cases have multiple fans.

Depends on the fans. You need to be sucking more air out then inn to make sure all the contaminated air gets cleaned by the scrubber.. Passive air intakes should be fine in most cases tho. Just plain holes and have fans sucking air out. That way new air will flow into the cabinet by the laws of nature

Well i was thinking making a plywood box box was not sure about how well i could seal it all up guess i could use some of the "Good stuff" or great stuff what ever its called that foam and then make a simple box.

Get some mylar reflection going

Get two PC Fans and the lights for the top pretty simple...

Can i have an intake fan and an output fan on the same wall?

Yeah plywood is cheap and easy to build with. You dont really need it 100% sealed. Even if there are some air leakes, it wont matter as long as they are not very large. It will just be sucked some air in at the leaks aswell. As long as you got more air beeing sucked out then inn you will be fine odor wise. Light leaks you just cover up with some tape or something when its time. You can find the light leaks very easy once you got light turned on inside the cab.

Having both intake and outake on the same wall is possible, but then you need a fan inside of the cabinet blowing air away from the outake so that you create a cross current inside of the cabinet. Having them on oposite sides will give you more aircirculation for free. I do not have any experience with a active intake/intake fan. I only use fans on the exhaust and it works great.

Just try to get the air exhaust to suck the hot air away from the light, and most of the job is done

Seeing you got so little space to work with in height i would think it would be simplest to just hard mount the lights to the ceiling, and add some rails on the base so that you can pull the bottom out and work with the plant right outside of the box, and just push it back in when you are done. If you run soil you can just make the drain holes of the pot go trough the base connected to the rails, so you pull the base out, water the plants, have the run off water fall down in a small tray under the base and push the base back inn. You can also build a shallow DWC. It will probably save you some room and i found it to not be much more costly, and alot easier to wrap my head around. You also need to decide if you want to LST or ScrOG the plant. I found ScrOG to be very simple, have not tried LST, but it looks very simple aswell

Remember to do some research on DIY coal scrubbers for computer fans, as some computerfans simply dont got the static pressure to work with a coal scrubber. Would suck to buy a cheap computerfan, just to replace it later.

Okay so i am going to put a frame together next weekend and then build the box.

I need to figure out what to say i am making if my dad asks because he sees me making a box and putting it into my room.

So are you saying i dont need an intake fan?

For the outtake fan iv seen good diy carbon filters for that so i am fine there.

I hear ScrOG is the better way of growing so id like to do it that way.

Buy you a rubbermaid, and fit all your supplies in it, with the top on, your parents will not think past the rubbermaid container. Just put your fanholes toward the back of the closet, and your plug wires to the back of the closet. keep it all black and it will blend together. You are risking your parents safehouse growing without them knowing. Main rule is not to tell anyone. I promise your parents will be pissed off if they spot this.

I think i am going to build a shack that i can chill out in and have a spot with like a hidden wall for a big grow room instead of a box would need to think of a new way to power the lights so i was thinking solar panels because small ones only for powering fans and a few lights shouldent cost to much.

Solar panels aren't really cost efficient especially for a small grow. If this is your first grow don't build a whole shed and construct hidden walls and all that, what if growing turns out to not be your thing?

Solar panels aren't really cost efficient especially for a small grow. If this is your first grow don't build a whole shed and construct hidden walls and all that, what if growing turns out to not be your thing?

Well i dont see building a shed as something to much becasue the shed would be for just chilling out and smoking with my buddies. A hidden wall wouldent be to hard to construct if i make a shed. As far as solar panels go i was thinking small ones because powering the lights is going to be a hassle.