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What I don't get (Christianity)

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So according to the Bible Jesus is the only way into heaven.. so here's what I dont get... Think about all the people who have died without ever hearing about Jesus.. No really think about it(ALL THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE LIVED IN THIS WORLD SINCE ITS EXISTENCE) or just imagine if you were born in another country like India or China or anywhere else where Christianity isnt the popular religion and you died without ever hearing about the gospel. You would go to Hell and not even know it..

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The Bible actually never makes a claim about what happens to those who died before Jesus' time, or those who don't get to hear of him.

Only elitist Christians make the claim that those people will be going to hell because they feel it's necessary to "fill in the blanks" of the scriptures with their own philosophies.

The entire first 3 centuries of Christianity are a testament to that fact.

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Well Romans 1:20-21 says, "For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse. For although they knew God, they did not honor him as God or give thanks to him, but they became futile in their thinking, and their foolish hearts were darkened." Therefore everyone is held accountable for not accepting the gift that God has given us, and that is salvation through the acceptance of Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior.

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So according to the Bible Jesus is the only way into heaven.. so here's what I dont get... Think about all the people who have died without ever hearing about Jesus.. No really think about it(ALL THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE LIVED IN THIS WORLD SINCE ITS EXISTENCE) or just imagine if you were born in another country like India or China or anywhere else where Christianity isnt the popular religion and you died without ever hearing about the gospel. You would go to Hell and not even know it..


What do you think hell is?

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The main points of Christianity date back to the ancient summerians. There have been many religions through time that are exactly like it.

This does not mean that it is not true, just that there is more to the story..

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So according to the Bible Jesus is the only way into heaven.. so here's what I dont get... Think about all the people who have died without ever hearing about Jesus.. No really think about it(ALL THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE LIVED IN THIS WORLD SINCE ITS EXISTENCE) or just imagine if you were born in another country like India or China or anywhere else where Christianity isnt the popular religion and you died without ever hearing about the gospel. You would go to Hell and not even know it..

Of course this question would rise from someone who already believes the Bible is not the Word of God. Although, this question is not exclusive to the person who denies the Bible, it's a question among Christians as well.

The answer is in Romans 1:17-23. God has made Himself evident to all of mankind so that we are all without excuse to deny His Son. You assume that every man who has died and not verbally heard of Jesus is destined to hell, but that is contrary to what the Bible teaches (ie. the verse in Romans).

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i remember asking this once at a church and what i got as an answer is that they would end up in heaven because they didn't know.

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i remember asking this once at a church and what i got as an answer is that they would end up in heaven because they didn't know.

If I was ever given that answer I would ask them for the chapter and verse they read that in. I believe that is entirely false.

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I would have to assume that any "good" Jew before then went to heaven…

After all, how do you ride a bike before the bike was invented?

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Of course this question would rise from someone who already believes the Bible is not the Word of God. Although, this question is not exclusive to the person who denies the Bible, it's a question among Christians as well.

The answer is in Romans 1:17-23. God has made Himself evident to all of mankind so that we are all without excuse to deny His Son. You assume that every man who has died and not verbally heard of Jesus is destined to hell, but that is contrary to what the Bible teaches (ie. the verse in Romans).


Well the op is based on this scripture "Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me." (John 14:6)

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There is no hell.

The hell that is often referred to is either the lake of fire, or gehenna.

Lake of fire, is just a furnace.
What happens when you throw paper into a furnace is just the same as souls in the lake of fire.

Gehenna is just a heap of trash outside of Jerusalem....

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Dude religion is just hopes to keep you going and have faith on what your doing

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Oh and until this day I really don't have a clue about religion. I think religion in the future will be ultimately gone bit there's going to be a few. That are still going to be into it.

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If I was ever given that answer I would ask them for the chapter and verse they read that in. I believe that is entirely false.


Are you serious man?

Think about it...

What would Jesus say?

If a man is ignorant, not by choice, to Jesus, and he is automatically sentenced to death, then that'd be injustice done by God. Would you call God unjust?

Therefore, if a person dies, he has to go to heaven, at least to be judged by God. And if they answer, "Who is this Christ?" Would God refrain to educate this person?

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Ha I make my own bible.

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Are you serious man?

Think about it...

What would Jesus say?

If a man is ignorant, not by choice, to Jesus, and he is automatically sentenced to death, then that'd be injustice done by God. Would you call God unjust?

Therefore, if a person dies, he has to go to heaven, at least to be judged by God. And if they answer, "Who is this Christ?" Would God refrain to educate this person?

It's not "what would Jesus say?" It's what DID Jesus say? You can't put words in His mouth. They must be grounded in Biblical truth.


The Bible says that no one is ignorant to Jesus (Rom. 1:17-23).
No, I would not call God unjust. My sense of justice is very opposite to God's. I am not the judge of justice, He is.

Show me a Bible verse to support your position. Otherwise, you're adding words to the Bible which aren't there.

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Oh and until this day I really don't have a clue about religion. I think religion in the future will be ultimately gone bit there's going to be a few. That are still going to be into it.


i think eventually theyll be viewed as radical cults kinda the same way as scientology

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It's not "what would Jesus say?" It's what DID Jesus say? You can't put words in His mouth. They must be grounded in Biblical truth.


The Bible says that no one is ignorant to Jesus (Rom. 1:17-23).
No, I would not call God unjust. My sense of justice is very opposite to God's. I am not the judge of justice, He is.

Show me a Bible verse to support your position. Otherwise, you're adding words to the Bible which aren't there.


Really, he said that? Were you there? Do you know the person who wrote that and heard Jesus say it? No, no, no. Please try again.

I also love the delusion behind the concept that god is both just and merciful. Those two are not compatible.

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i think eventually theyll be viewed as radical cults kinda the same way as scientology


Thinking people already view them this way.:D

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The way Christians say it is now is only how it is u the new testament because Jesus died. Prior to that it was all different the Hebrew Jews don't even believe Jesus was the messiah mostly think of him as a prophet. Theres much to christianity that most people don't realize like the books of the bible that have been taken out. Te different forms of Judaism. Abraham's bosum, so many factors of its structure left out. The basic message though is that love one another and be humble in life.

OP you rep the Rastafari colours but don't know Christianity I thought it was formed out of a mix of Judaism an Christianity?




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