Web Development

Hey All,

Just curious to see if there are any other web developers here on the city (I'm sure there are).

If so, how do you stylize your pages? Personally I only know Dreamweaver but I'd like the idea of not having to rely on software to make pages look good.

I don't know if this is even possible without a program. I don't know very much HTML but I am curious to what others are doing and what is your routine for creating web pages.

Thanks,

wookie

I delve into some HTML/CSS & PHP, it can be fun stuff creating a website/database.

Doesn't dreamweaver have a code view where you can view the code for whatever you created? Could learn pretty fast that way

You are correct. Personally, do you know how to code CSS and PHP? If so how hard are the rules?

Looking to get into building websites, what languages would you all recommend learning first?

Well in highschool I took web design 1 and 2 and they let us use dreamweaver and told us to copy the code....I learned nothing about divs, and css, which is used TONS in professional sites. My brother went to Fullsail college which is a great college and now works at this place called AgencyNet, his most recent project was Justin Biebers website, which he was the head coder on. But anyway this all has to do with my teacher in web design 3. In web design 3 we got a new teacher who was taught as FullSail to, and I learned more in 10 minutes in his lessons the I learned all together in 2 years of my prior knowledge. He taught us the proper way to code a website, and organize it. HTML and CSS is a really easy code to learn, I think the harder required code would be JavaScript which my brother does tons of, and if it has to do with Java Code im sure its super hard:P I also took AP Computer Science in Highschool and its 100x harder then HTML for me.

And pretty much my teacher made a simple but basic website, and I just go back to that to relearn all the Divs, and CSS code. Also Dreamweaver can be good if you use it just to learn code, but don't rely on it or you will learn nothing, Its also very simple to make forms on, but other then that it pretty much sucks and is unaccurate and throws bad code in.

You are correct. Personally, do you know how to code CSS and PHP? If so how hard are the rules?

I'm just learning CSS myself, but it's not very hard. Practice, practice, practice

Looking to get into building websites, what languages would you all recommend learning first?

HTML and CSS will provide a solid foundation for static websites.

Once you get bored of those and want to create dynamic websites, learn JavaScript, PHP, and ASP.

Yes, it is not very hard at all to get started. Just look up the very well done tutorials on w3schools

haha web design in high school was awesome.... 1st period get baked and do graphic design on ps then fuck around on dw. good times.....

html and css is cake to learn, just get ideas on websites you wanna make then make them. Just make it easy to navigate and theme it to whatever the purpose of the site is. DW is kinda bad to learn from though, it does alot of stuff that you should learn how it works. Kinda dumbs you down in certain aspects.

Hey there!

Well, you should learn CSS & HTML, its easy!!

I cant use dreamweaver!!

lol, idk I work with NOTEPAD++ writing my CSS and HTML... You can use notepad++ if you wanna use PHP too, but im actually learning asp.net with visual studio..

Looking to get into building websites, what languages would you all recommend learning first?

Start with CSS & html (design)
Then php or asp (programming)
Sql or mysql (For database )

I'm a web developer and do other computer related jobs (software development and network security mostly).

I don't like using the WYSIWYG editors, I like Dreamweavers code view its a great editor, but I normally am on Linux and I just use Scite.

I'd learn HTML, then CSS, then PHP and Javascript. w3schools.com has great tutorials, I'm completely self taught and its how I'd recommend aspiring developers learn.

I'm a web developer and do other computer related jobs (software development and network security mostly).

I don't like using the WYSIWYG editors, I like Dreamweavers code view its a great editor, but I normally am on Linux and I just use Scite.

I'd learn HTML, then CSS, then PHP and Javascript. w3schools.com has great tutorials, I'm completely self taught and its how I'd recommend aspiring developers learn.

Am I missing something "wonderful" by not getting interested in Dreamweaver? I really dont like all the code css code it creates, but I dont, i think i may have to give it another try!

haha web design in high school was awesome.... 1st period get baked and do graphic design on ps then fuck around on dw. good times.....

html and css is cake to learn, just get ideas on websites you wanna make then make them. Just make it easy to navigate and theme it to whatever the purpose of the site is. DW is kinda bad to learn from though, it does alot of stuff that you should learn how it works. Kinda dumbs you down in certain aspects.

Web Design in High School? Dam im getting old. I took keyboarding in HS lol.

Am I missing something "wonderful" by not getting interested in Dreamweaver? I really dont like all the code css code it creates, but I dont, i think i may have to give it another try!

I really like using Dreamweaver as an editor. It has built in FTP support as well as great syntax highlighting, project management, and something else sorry i"m real drunk.

Anyways, Dreamweaver is a great option for windows because it offers both WYSIWYG as well as direct code editing, with project management, syntax highlighting, and something else lol sorry.

For the record, I write all my code from the ground up. I don't like using pre-generated templates, unless I create the generator, so dreamweaver works great for me because I can set up FTP and just having everything work.

Dreamweaver saves a lot of time, and help out for the right tags. It is great tool.

GUI tools are good if you know code, but hinder you if you don't...sure the page looks spiffy, but is it dynamic, is it interactive, is it LIVE feed...(and GUI tools tend to make for some really fucked up bloat-ware pages)

HTML
CSS
C++
Java
C#
PHP
ASP
PERL
AJAX
and many many many more...start at the top, work your way down as needed...


when You can design an interactive dynamic SECURE site in notepad, you are ready for the GUI dev tools.

Why would you recommend learning C++ or C# for web development? I know they can be used in web development, but learning C++ would take longer than learning the 4 main web dev languages combined, and still wouldn't be as useful.

Btw owasp.org has alot about security, I'd look into it if you plan on doing anything with programming, be it at the web level or the system level.