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Potency Increase? Eating Hash Oil (in capsules), THEN consuming alcohol.

Discussion in 'Apprentice Marijuana Consumption' started by Iceman2damax, Feb 18, 2012.

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  1. #1 Iceman2damax, Feb 18, 2012
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    Hey Blades! So tomorrow's one of my close buddy's birthday, and a pretty big party is being thrown, in which a keg is being bought. With various amounts of other alcohol involved...tequilla...vodka..rum..etc.
    I have a pretty low tolerance to alcohol, I don't consume it nearly as much as cannabis. Maybe drink once every few weeks, but I hold my alcohol really well, and when I do consume alcohol, cannabis is always consumed as well. I smoke everyday though, way more than usual lately. Probably a a couple grams of tree, and a gram of hash daily the past couple days.

    Anyways, I've always had a high tolerance from daily heavy use, but usually the littlest bit can cause decent visuals due to previous psychedelic use...and I'm always looking for new efficient ways to consume THC for the most potent way to achieve its psychedelic effects. So tomorrow, for experimental purposes, I'm planning on throwing two .3g capsules of some double filtered QWISO into my tummy before the party.
    The QWISO is fully evaporated, a nice tan color. Double-filtered as well for that higher potency.
    In the past I've had edibles at parties, and noticed a significant boost in my high after I consumed alcohol. A high different than smoking, then drinking.
    I felt that ingesting THC orally, then drinking alcohol somehow essentially "helped" the THC bond.

    NOW, by eating this oil and drinking alcohol I'm hoping to produce a really intense high. The oil is Sour Diesel, which is a sativa, so won't knock me on my ass. I'm trying to achieve a very visual high, with the help of the alcohol helping dissolve the THC into my system. I'll probably throw a fattening meal in my system before the party to help the THC bond as well.

    My question to you Blades out there;
    Does anyone have experience with this combination? If so, can you post on your experience? Any preparation you think would be helpful to help achieve this high? Best (type) of alcohol to consume alongside THC?

    My night will probably consist of a few shots.
    A couple games of beer pong.
    x2 .3g Hash Oil capsules.
    Several Bowls :smoke::smoke:
    And probably a few cigarettes, just because I'll be drinking.

    I will post back with results my for-sure-hungover Sunday.
     
  2. #2 Laith, Feb 18, 2012
    ... What was done to the hash inside of the capsules? Putting hash into a pill form and eating it won't get you high, even if you drink alcohol with it.

    What kind of procedure did you use to make the hash into an edible ? Just curious.
     
  3. #3 Iceman2damax, Feb 18, 2012

    You can orally ingest THC. It's WAYYY more efficient to add it to a fat and heat, then consume... than to just eat a regular bud.
    Both will technically get you high, but the one added to the fat will be considerably more noticeable than just eating a nasty bud straight.
     
  4. #4 PGV, Feb 18, 2012
    Did you make sure to decarb the herb before making it into hash?
     
  5. #5 Iceman2damax, Feb 18, 2012

    Decarb? Not for oil.
    The isopropyll pulls the THC, not the THC-A. I could be wrong, but decarbing really has little to do with QWISO.
    I DID freeze the herb a little over the day before doing the 10 second wash with %99 iso.
     
  6. #6 Keizo, Feb 18, 2012
    Personally Alcohol before smoking/THC ingestion. I would take your pill along side your second drink then it will kick in after your 4th or so. Just my opinion, also i would like to know about how you did the hash in the capsules because that can make a difference as well.
     
  7. #7 Laith, Feb 18, 2012
    I know, but how long have they been in the oil? Has it been 2-3 weeks? Otherwise it will not be as potent as possible, since if you don't heat it up a lot it will take awhile for it to become edible.

    Have fun bro!
     
  8. #8 Iceman2damax, Feb 18, 2012

    You think? Popping these like some no-name club drugs! aha
    Just scoop/drop .3g into each capsule.
     
  9. #9 Laith, Feb 18, 2012
    Wait you just put normal hash oil into a pill? You didn't do anything to activate the THC? That won't even get you high... well, good luck friend. :)
     
  10. #10 Iceman2damax, Feb 18, 2012

    Never heard of the Hash Eaters Club?

    And you don't activate THC :|
     
  11. #11 Laith, Feb 18, 2012
    I have heard of them, they are bullshitters.

    THC - Tetrahydrocannibinol - is not soluble in water of stomach acids. So the rumor about eating hashish and getting high from this is untrue. To make hashish (or cannabis) edible and metabolized, one needs to dissolve it in a fat like butter or cooking-oil.

    The rumors about just eating hash and getting off have been around for decades. Usually the person who tells the rumor is already stoned out of their gourde, eats a gram of hash, and assumes they are getting high from it. But in reality they are just wasting their hashish.

    The amazing powers of suggestion meets the placebo-effect.

    Posting at the same time, Baj: The hashish eaters in Paris ate hashish that were cooked into confections. They were not just chawing on a brick of Afghani Black. LOL!

    Your glass of milk would have dissolved some THC. That's why it worked. A milk-based cannabis drink called Bhang (pronounced Bong) is popular in India. Bhang has the THC dissolved in the fats from milk and will make one feel so high as to be nearly speechless. Not good for a party where conversation is expected. But a person on Bhang would make a dandy coat and hat-rack in the corner. \t\t

    Sorry if this kinda ruins your night, but i'm sure you'll be stoned from the weed man. You'd be a lot better off just smoking the hash.
     
  12. #12 Keizo, Feb 18, 2012
    Thankfully someone sees the issues here. I mean if you didn't do the hash right as I can see currently then you won't get shit from it really.
     
  13. #13 Iceman2damax, Feb 18, 2012

    I've had friends who have eaten hash oil/hash straight to test this method a couple months ago. They passed out a few hours later during the day, AND woke up high.
    It truly matters on the person's digestive system and metabolism. Some people can get high by eating pot straight, some can't.
    Everyone can get high by eating edibles though, due to the efficient method of fat-bondings.
    I understand THC's solubility, and it doesn't ruin my night! I hope that wasn't your intention! :|
    My night's not until tomorrow, and I agree.
    Smoking's an easier, more productive method to ingest THC alone.
    Orally consuming Hash Oil, then alcohol may be a more productive manner though in terms of this combination.
     
  14. #14 Iceman2damax, Feb 18, 2012

    Didn't do the hash right?
    I've smoked plenty of it already and gotten ripped off a dab.
    Now imagine 6 or 7 dabs in a capsule with a fatty meal AND alcohol?
    Fats = making edibles.
    Alcohol's or solvents = making oils.

    Combination of the two.
    I've had plenty of previous experience with edibles and alcohol.
    That's fat, and alcohols.
    Got me more ripped than smoking that amount of bud [that was in an edible], and drinking that alcohol.
    Hopefully that's a little more clear.
     
  15. #15 Laith, Feb 18, 2012
    Eat one of the capsules and do not smoke anything. You will not get high. I'm sorry if you're disappointed, but it just doesn't work. :( I know you'll cling to the fact it does for the placebo effect, but yeah... it won't get you high to eat normal hash oil inside of a capsule.
     
  16. #16 PGV, Feb 18, 2012
    Like I first said, the herb needs to undergo the decarboxylation process prior to the making of the hash.

    There are carboxyl-group containing cannabinoids like cannabigerolic acid, cannabidiolic acid, which is an oxidocyclized version of cannabigerolic acid, and tetrahydrocannabinolic acid, that when they lose their respective carboxyl group, become psychoactive.

    To do this place the cannabis on a baking sheet in the oven at 150F for 30-60 minutes. The marijuana should crumble easily.
     
  17. #17 Laith, Feb 18, 2012
    Yes, and he said he did not do that. So I'm just warning him, he can't just eat normal hash that has not gone through any process to decarb it.
     
  18. #18 Iceman2damax, Feb 18, 2012
    Without previous experience, seems like a lot of conflicting views.
    I feel like, all I would be doing is making it more readily active, converting THC-9 into its more potent biproduct THC-11. Not activating.

    So yeah, heating it without degrading the THC component is a more productive manner.
    Like I asked, can you even decarb oils?
     
  19. #19 FitStoner, Feb 18, 2012
    Lots of misinformation, you decarb the bud before you use it. Not the hash or oil.
     
  20. #20 Iceman2damax, Feb 18, 2012

    Thought so! Thanks for clearing that up.

    More people need to try eating hash omnomnom :p
     
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