Bongs are actually bad.

[Terpsichore]

Originally Posted by Wykid

lmao..."dont attack bongs!!!" lmao...you all sound like a bunch of crack addicts.

he was trying to give another side to the coin about bongs...no need to burn him at the steak.

SMOKING ANYTHING, IN ANY FORM is bad for you. Period. Its common sense. You, well, at least I, dont need any study to tell me that.

and he wasnt dissing bongs, he actually said he has a few of em (again, youre all like crack addicts: hearing what you want to hear).

Im out.

Thank you.. How sensitive everyone is.. my goodness, did some of you forget your meds today, or what? He's just trying to share a bit of information with everyone... So you have your reasons for not agreeing, fine, but he's not satan or anything, jesh!

~ Terpsichore

[GaleForce]

Originally Posted by blowbud4life

Partnership for a Drug Free America is actually run by alcohol and Tabacco companies.

That fact looked pretty interesting to me because it would have made an amazing argument against those commercials. So I decided to look it up to see if it was really true. Here is what I found (bold part is really all that matters);

The Partnership for a Drug-Free America® is a private, non-profit coalition of professionals from the communications industry. Best known for its national, drug-education advertising campaign, The Partnership exists to help kids and teens reject substance abuse by influencing attitudes through persuasive information. The Partnership’s State/City Alliance Program supports The Partnership’s mission at the local level. The Partnership receives major funding from The Robert Wood Johnson Foundation and financial support from more than 200 private sector corporations. The Partnership accepts no money from alcohol or tobacco manufacturers. All actors in The Partnership’s ads appear pro bono through the generosity of the Screen Actors Guild and the American Federation of Television and Radio Artists.

Would have been cool if it was true but it isn't. This statement seems to be backed up by many other sources as well.

[HerbsINtheBurbs]

"Nonetheless, it is still premature to judge that waterpipes are actually unhealthful, since they may filter out other, non-solid smoke toxins occurring in the gas phase of the smoke, which was not analyzed in the study. Noxious gases known to occur in marijuana smoke include hydrogen cyanide, which incapacitates the lung's defensive cilia; volatile phenols, which contribute to the harshness of the taste; aldehydes, which promote cancer; and carbon monoxide, a known risk factor in heart disease. Previous studies indicate that water filtration may be quite effective in absorbing some of these [Nicholas Cozzi, Effects of Water Filtration on Marijuana Smoke: A Literature Review, MAPS Newsletter, Vol. IV #2, 1993]. If so, waterpipes might still turn out to have net health benefits."

Also, one thing I'm not sure if this study failed to analyze, was the amount of smoke lost in a burning joint as opposed to an easily desparked bowl. Though it does make a point to say that the regular pipe with ground pot scored the worst, then the bong, then the joint, then the vaporizer.

[Ars moriendi]

bongs are wasteful and do deliver more tar then thc per cubic inch of smoke...

If you wish to get the most from herb without actually vaporizing for whatever reason buy yourself a nice one hitter add a fine screen (as you'd find in a vaporwarez whip)

glow rod with a knife/screwdriver glass stir/handle on a cheap glass bowl or a cigarette (herbal or tea joints probably better)

Don't let it touch the first few deep slow inhalers and you'll vap a bit then spark the center with a bb sized cherry with the glowrod/cig and hit it a few times slowly

once the center starts charring to the screen use a finger nail to push the green side bud to the center as it's had the trichromes melted and is pretty tasty compared to a nasty bong rip

make sure you hold each hit in deep and as long as possible slowly exhaling in a relaxed state

A single .3 or smaller ball of gently broken down killer bud will get you stoned senseless with very little harshness on the throat

[Peaceful Rocker]

I know weeds slightly harmful to you, but that isn't going to stop me from doing it.

[David420Haze]

Also something to add in favor of bongs, is the fact that when smoking out of pipes microparticles from the glass heating up travel with the smoke into your lungs. So dude hate to tell you that experiment had no guidelines to it. Remember dont trust everything that is handed to you, go out and do your own studying and reading.

[designatedtoker]

the tar dosent settle in your lungs as easy as you might think...
yea... my 2 cents...

[blowbud4life]

I'm not trying to prove anything. Read the info blieve or not be bleieve it. It's your choice.

[HerbsINtheBurbs]

Originally Posted by blowbud4life

I'm not trying to prove anything. Read the info blieve or not be bleieve it. It's your choice.

+rep for trying to spread knowledge, I hope it didnt seem like I was trying to attack the points directed at you personally.

keep it hazy

[syntax13]

A bong removes a shitload of carcinogens, and removes some tar. So I think removing some tar and a lot of carcinogens is better than smoking a slightly more concentrated tar, which would still be less than the amount of tar you got in the end out of a pipe.

Thats also inaccurate numbers on the drug percentages. And no one actually gets addicted, they might want more, but its not cravings like nicotine or what coke does to you, its just a desire to have more more than it is a physical addiction.

[blowbud4life]

Originally Posted by HerbsINtheBurbs

+rep for trying to spread knowledge, I hope it didnt seem like I was trying to attack the points directed at you personally.

keep it hazy

Thanks

[Ars moriendi]

Originally Posted by David420Haze

Also something to add in favor of bongs, is the fact that when smoking out of pipes microparticles from the glass heating up travel with the smoke into your lungs. So dude hate to tell you that experiment had no guidelines to it. Remember dont trust everything that is handed to you, go out and do your own studying and reading.

..put the bong down...NOW

unless you're a total spaz the lighter nor the cherry get hot enough to vaporize any glass.. and even if you did decide to take a propane torch to a glass smoking device it would melt into itself burning the grass to a white ash that may or may not fuse into the glass

Toker, yepperoo the lungs aren't like one of those hair removing gel rollers they constantly attempt to rid themselves of any and all crap including your own dead skin flakes dander ect

pop a few sudafed decongestants or take a hit of epinephrine and watch the phelm fly lol


syntax the problem with bongs is they filter thc with the drastic temp change while cooling the tars in a similar fashion the net result is the need to smoke more and a faster cooling heavier tar coating your throat and lungs

It's more unhealthy then any pipe so if you want the best smoke a flax paper joint thats slightly damp to keep the burn slow

either that or break out the heatgun/volcano vaporizer and taste pure goodness

[click]

I <3 bongs

[kmklifer]

who cares? variety is the best. just like its tight smoking different types of bud at the same time. no need to stick to one piece anyway.

[Stamppad]

How much tar are we really talking about anyway? How Does it compare to cigarette smoke?

Personally, I like a nice glass bong. I'd hate to think that smoking a bowl a day out of a bong is like smoking a pack of cigarettes...