Bongs are actually bad.

[Skunkster]

i dont think the original post in this thread makes any sense at all

[Atom.]

You know what's even worse? Sum 41.

[aze]

Originally Posted by Floydian

The tar is more pure? Whatever tar is coming from the weed, it's either all going in to your lungs, or some of it. You can't do anything to make the tar worse.

"More pure" tar makes no sense... tar is composed of hundreds of different compounds, there is no single compound that is "pure tar". But you can do something to make tar worse: remove some of the THC so you inhale more tar and less THC. Then you will smoke more to get the same amount of THC, so you get more tar. That's what the study says bongs do.

[Ars moriendi]

thats exactly what bongs do

unless you filled it with boiling hot water then wrapped it in a cut up soft thermal cooler or whatever you had on hand to keep the heat in the glass (all the way to the mouth piece) and sparked the bowl with a cig or w/e flameless source you could find (not vapping burning but a slow tiny cherry to start with) cleared it right away and all that

if not the water almost instantly cools everything from tar to thc to cbn ect into a solid

this is why the tar patterns have a fine layer near your mouth a shitload of gunk tar bits half burnt bits of bud ect all stuck to the sidesright above the water line

it's like a sewer pipe in reverse spewing newly cooled smoke by-product lol

overall water and the surface inside all your bongs steals at least 30% of your goodies with every hit and you still get nasty tasting hits on top of the smoke going stale in under 20 seconds

lol don't care how many times I've said it ...stop kidding yourselves with the bongs! spring for the heatgun bong bowl vapo and get some real bong use goin'

you can drink the water (filtered of plant matter and nuked in the micro for 10 seconds with or without milk or butter)

save and reuse the filtered shit you took outta the vapo bong water

make butter or green dragon or bho extract with all your brown/cream coffee colored vaped bud to get every last bit

run hot water through your vapor bong bowl with a coffee filter on the downstem side to collect PURE ass vapor honey thats very heavy on the CBN side of things ...IE instead of a heady thc stone it's full blown dream like vision couch lock major munchies and intense pain killing along with killing any stomach ache you got going

it smells better...

lol bongs aren't bad...smoking with them is!

[Floydian]

Originally Posted by aze

"More pure" tar makes no sense... tar is composed of hundreds of different compounds, there is no single compound that is "pure tar". But you can do something to make tar worse: remove some of the THC so you inhale more tar and less THC. Then you will smoke more to get the same amount of THC, so you get more tar. That's what the study says bongs do.

The study, is too technical.

A bowl from a bong is still going to get you just as high as a bowl from well... a bowl.

The point is, maybe you're getting a very miniscule difference in the THC:Tar ratio from a bong. But no where near enough to notice, so you do not have to smoke more to acheive the same effect. Technically, yes, maybe you're not getting enough THC. But your brain can only differentiate between certain amounts, and taking away that much isn't enough for it to tell the difference.

But.

I still believe that's bullshit in general. Okay, some of the THC is lost in the water.

But so is the tar. In my opinion, it works out evenly still. You're probably getting the same amount of THC in relation to tar out of a bong as you would out of anything else; except they may both be a little lower.

It's all just stupid. Anyone who's ever looked inside of a well used bong, see's how much tar it catches. It's the same 'resin' that condenses in any normal pipe. And it's no where near 100% THC, mostly tar.

And what does the study say to the people who defend to the death that they get HIHGER from bongs? If they have to smoke less because in general they get higher from bongs, it makes the whole study a moot point.

What it comes down to is okay, maybe there's a little less THC. But the nature of a bong hit is a factor the study isn't accounting for, as far as how high you get. The fact that you can take such huge rips at one time from bongs compared to most things and the force which it gets sent in to your lungs after you pull the slider, gives you an added high that cancels out however much THC is lost, and then still goes beyond.

All in all, no way of smoking weed is perfect. They all have advantages and disadvantages. Joints and blunts waste large amounts of smoke. Pipes can be harsh. Bongs taste great but SUPPOSEDLY you're getting a bit more tar than THC in the ratio (which I still don't believe, and no one will convince me). Vaporizors don't take full advantage of the taste of weed. Eating it is a whole different high.

God I'm tierd of this discussion lol, if I offered anyone my glass bong with a packed bowl of dank, and said 'Here smoke this, on me.' Would anyone say 'Sure, but take it out of the bong, and put it in a pipe. I don't want the extra tar:THC ratio.'

I don't think so.

Edit;

Originally Posted by Ars moriendi

overall water and the surface inside all your bongs steals at least 30% of your goodies with every hit and you still get nasty tasting hits on top of the smoke going stale in under 20 seconds

30%? I'm callin shenanigans on that one. I don't even know how you'd come up with that or back it up. I've never had to smoke 30% more weed, basically, to get as high out of a bong as a pipe. Infact I usually need to smoke less. And as far as the hit tasting nasty? You must not be smoking very good weed, as there is no taste more refreshing to me than that of a nice rip of freshly cured bud from my bong. I've never even heard of anyone saying bong hits taste nasty. It's the opposite IMO. And who cares if the smoke goes stale in 20 seconds? It takes me about 4 seconds or less to fill up the bong, about half a second to clear it, and around 8-9 seconds to exhale with almost no smoke. But it doesn't even matter as the only time you taste the smoke that I'm aware of is while it passes through your mouth, and that's no where near close to 20 seconds later. If it's going stale in my lungs, I don't care, as long as they're still absorbing the THC. And, if everything was done right, all that THC should be absorbed before 20 seconds anyway.

[dabongmaster]

well me being the bong master and all, id have 2 say thats a load of crap

[ZeColmeia]

Ever look at bong water that hasn't been changed in a while? All I know is that that is not in my lungs.

[Durchii]

I want to know who the hell keeps reviving these threads...

It's tiresome..

[Jsawicki50]

omfg if any of us cared about tar in the first place WE WOULDNT BE SMOKING POT lol. a lot of times when you smoke out of a pipe... the bottom of the pipe builds up with resin on the inside... and if you dont clean it, every hit you get has resin in it. Resin is TERRIBLE for you. I heard something like 52% of whats in resin is lighter fluid or something.

[sky dog]

Originally Posted by Durchii

I want to know who the hell keeps reviving these threads...

It's tiresome..

It's better than having someone start a new one

Better than the influx of n00b questions we've had lately, too

• How much is an eighth
• Busted!!!1Wat Do I Due
• Drug test Question

[debauch]

Originally Posted by ZeColmeia

Ever look at bong water that hasn't been changed in a while? All I know is that that is not in my lungs.

ok, whoever has a bong and lets the water get to that point shouldnt own one because they obviously miss the point of having one. if you want the best smoking experience, keep things clean. i clean my bongs before every session. the roor website actually says to clean the piece before you smoke to make the piece work as fully intended (granted its to get ppl to buy roor cleaning solution, but they still have the right idea in cleaning). i make sure to scrub all the chunks off and get it sparkling like new. thats why i hate using dry pieces. all the crap gets stuck inside it and no one cleans those regularly. id rather have the water as a line of defense and never get a mouth full of ash than worry about what little might actually be in the water.

[Ars moriendi]

ironically for less than the cost of a decent roor you can vaporize healthy as fuck

50-100 for the heatgun and like 19 bucks at any local drug store that carries cheap dr. grabow pipes

grab one of the square shanked wide bowl ones cut the heatgun reduction bit to fit with a pipe cutter and sandwich your fine ground bud lightly between 2 screens in the bowl

break up the filter it comes with pull out the inner most bit with holes punched in it and reroll it to size inside a rollin' paper

rip this into 2 or 3 tiny filters and hit that dry pipe till your blowing meth dragon sized clouds of thc (you will of course cough your ass off once the thc loosens your lung gunk)

[GF Easy]

Honestly, guess what?
Bongs may be worse than other methods, like spoons/joints. They may be better. But really, i dont give a shit. If i have some dank weed, do you think that a little more tar will stop me from milking that shit out of a beautiful 3 foot bong? you can bet your ass it wont.
As bad/good/orange as they may be, bongs are the shit and almost everyone, probably including the thread starter, will agree with that.

I leave you all with one final note:

LONG LIVE BONGS!!!

[1 Toke over]

LOL, Water is WAY better to smoke out of than pipes. The water cools and takes impurities out. When i smoke out of a pipe its WAY harder to breath afterwords than with my bubbler. I never cough or anything, and my friend who smokes with a pipe only coughs and shit comes up. WATER IS BEST.

[Ars moriendi]

simple test for all you daily bong rippers...try to sing a single lyric in key and check out your breathing patterns stoned 'n sober

vapo users and dry piece users do the same...bet ya the dry and vapos can do it better and last longer hell its already been proven cig smokers slowly acclimate to less oxy over time which is noted by all the lung butter clubbers whoopin' ass on fear factor water stunts

put the bong down or at least vape outta the fuckin' thing