Astral Projection (Lucid Dreams)

[PuertoRicanInMD]

Originally Posted by cloudNINE

I'm interested in all these sleep related topics also! Just yesterday I had a weird experience, I'm not sure how to classify it. Anyways, I was laying there, and I could feel myself falling asleep- like my brain shut down but my body was still awake. I don't know, anyone that's had sleep paralysis knows what I'm talking about. It was THAT feeling of sleep paralysis, except there were so scary as fuck dead dudes coming, this time I felt my body tense up and I felt myself spinning rapidly, then all of a sudden I lifted off and seemed to fly directly straight up. A part of me knew I was still on my bed, so I wasn't scared, as similar experiences have happened before--just not of this magnitude. The weird this is, while i was launching up I could feel myself kind of being pushed into my bed. I used to be afraid of these experiences and still kinda am, but it's nowintriguing me seeing all these people with similar "out of body" experiences. I think I should mention throughout the experience my eyes were closed, and it can't have lasted more than 10 seconds. Weird. Anyone know what my experience would be?

Ok, the spinning of your body was your level of vibration increasing, that is normal since the astral body has a higher vibration than your physical. When you felt you were flying straight up that was that your astral body was getting out and you did a good thing trying to not get scared. The feeling of you been pushed to your bed is because of your mind. You were trying to look the reason of why you were feeling this (I think the word is "rationalize" but I'm not sure). When you try to this you are waking up your physical body because you are making your conscious mind work. When you are in the astral plane, it is the subconscious that is working, that part of the mind that works but your brain doesn't know it is working (you know we use, consciously, about 15% of our brain capacity). That's why some people say that to be able to astral project you need to wake up your subconscious. That is to be aware when it is working (to be aware of dreams). Next time try to open your eyes, slowly and relaxed. You will need to do a good work trying to stay relaxed after you open your eyes because it is kind of shocking to see your own body laying on bed and you are flying above it. Try it since you have sleep paralysis, so it is easier for you to get out of your body. And don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that sleep paralysis is good. It is just that to be able to astral project you have to shutdown you whole physical body and I think sleep paralysis make you do that.

[llockhart86]

Ok. I have a question or two. And these are for anybody who knows anything about sleeping, because this stuff is what drives me. Its this type of thing that makes me believe that all this shit that we work for, t.v's and shit, its all the minimum. There is so much more out there for us, ( i just did a post on astrology), that this cant be it. This life cant be it. Now, puerto, ive had some experiences while asleep that I want to talk about.

One time I was sleeping on my bed, and all of a sudden I was able to see my room, and my door was open, so i could see out into my living room, and like, i couldnt move, at all. I tried, but I couldnt move, i was just laying there. I thought it was that sleep poralysis that people talk about, but I distinctly remember that, when i was laying there, i could sware that there was somebody standing at the end of my bed, just out of sight..i KNEW there was someone standing there, then i got really really scared, and my whole body like vibrated hard core. I woke up an hour later, I knew it was an hour because the clock went from 2:30 exactly, to 3:30 instantly, like, I blinked and it went from 2:30 to 3:30.

Nextly, I was watching the passion of the christ, and I fell asleep again...and while I was sleeping there in my bed, different house too, my body vibrated like it did before that one time, except this time there wasnt anybody around, and i couldnt keep track of the time.

As for this astral projection and lucid dreaming, I would love to be able to do this stuff. But i cant even remember my dreams anymore...but this is something that, i dont know, you guys say you can do it...like on command, and I would lvoe nothing more than to be able to travel in a dream state. You say even into space...there was a question earlier that I cant remember if it was answered or not. If I were to go into space while in the astral stage...would it just be stuff that I made up in my own head, or like, everything about space that I ahve ever learned, any pics ive seen, does that all just come together subconciously and you see it, or do you really see whats going on in space? I guess the answer of that last question there could actually turn my whole life motivation. If this dreaming thing is for real, and i might have experienced it on accident..then i will pursue this full force. There would be no better accomplishments (in my eyes) than to be able to master something in your brain, train yourself to do something mentally that most people cant. thank you in advance.

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llockhart86 i feel very very similarly about this subject as you do.

Thanks for the advice and things puerto, im definately gonna keep on practising this technique, cheers man.

[PuertoRicanInMD]

Originally Posted by llockhart86

Ok. I have a question or two. And these are for anybody who knows anything about sleeping, because this stuff is what drives me. Its this type of thing that makes me believe that all this shit that we work for, t.v's and shit, its all the minimum. There is so much more out there for us, ( i just did a post on astrology), that this cant be it. This life cant be it. Now, puerto, ive had some experiences while asleep that I want to talk about.

One time I was sleeping on my bed, and all of a sudden I was able to see my room, and my door was open, so i could see out into my living room, and like, i couldnt move, at all. I tried, but I couldnt move, i was just laying there. I thought it was that sleep poralysis that people talk about, but I distinctly remember that, when i was laying there, i could sware that there was somebody standing at the end of my bed, just out of sight..i KNEW there was someone standing there, then i got really really scared, and my whole body like vibrated hard core. I woke up an hour later, I knew it was an hour because the clock went from 2:30 exactly, to 3:30 instantly, like, I blinked and it went from 2:30 to 3:30.

Nextly, I was watching the passion of the christ, and I fell asleep again...and while I was sleeping there in my bed, different house too, my body vibrated like it did before that one time, except this time there wasnt anybody around, and i couldnt keep track of the time.

As for this astral projection and lucid dreaming, I would love to be able to do this stuff. But i cant even remember my dreams anymore...but this is something that, i dont know, you guys say you can do it...like on command, and I would lvoe nothing more than to be able to travel in a dream state. You say even into space...there was a question earlier that I cant remember if it was answered or not. If I were to go into space while in the astral stage...would it just be stuff that I made up in my own head, or like, everything about space that I ahve ever learned, any pics ive seen, does that all just come together subconciously and you see it, or do you really see whats going on in space? I guess the answer of that last question there could actually turn my whole life motivation. If this dreaming thing is for real, and i might have experienced it on accident..then i will pursue this full force. There would be no better accomplishments (in my eyes) than to be able to master something in your brain, train yourself to do something mentally that most people cant. thank you in advance.

YEEEAAAHHH!!!! I love to see people with that desire to seek for our own nature. First I want to talk about something that attracted my attention form your post. The entity that was standing near you. Absolutely everyone has spiritual guides, entities from the astral plane that look after you, and you can feel them, even see them, when you are trying to get out of your body. Don't be scared (I know it is scary the first time), they are there to protect you. If they were there to hurt you, you astral body will tell you by feeling their level of vibration. In the astral plane there are entities of high vibration (guides, entities of light) that are willing to help you and teach you but there are also entities of low vibration (gray or dark entities); stay away from them. They can't hurt you but they can guide you through the wrong path.

What happened to you is that you were not fully out of your body. You were able to open your "astral eyes" but your astral body wasn't out completely yet. For most people is more difficult to open their eyes than to get out of thier body but everybody experience astral projection in his/her own way.

First thing to do astral projection: try to remember your dreams. Repeat this to yourself a few times in bed before going to sleep: "I will remember my dreams". When you get to remember them try the next step: Try to become aware that you are dreaming while you are dreaming. This is the hard step. This can be done when you see something that is impossible in the physical world like someone flying, strange objects, etc. How can you do this? Analyze everything in the physical try to create a doubt in yourself about if you are dreaming or not. By doing this, you will do the same thing in your dreams. A good technique is asking your self a few times a day (when you are alone because otherwise you are going to look like crazy, lol) if you are in the astral plane and after that make a jump with the intention to fly. Try to make your doubt as authentic as possible. If you do this in a dream, you will fly so you will gain consciousness that you are in the astral plane and it is possible that you will wake up the first time because it is a shocking experience or you will get too excited. This is one of the techniques to do astral projection but it is difficult because you have to sleep first and then wake up your subconscious.

People that can project don't do it by command. Astral projection happens every night to everybody, we just decide when we will be aware of it. By practicing it you subconscious becomes more "awake" to the point that everytime you are dreaming you know it and you can decide to take control of your voyage or not.

As for the space, yes you can go there but try to go short distances first because your astral body needs energy to travel. You have to train it like an athlete, increase the distance gradually. Lets say go farther everytime you project. I recommend that the first time you stay in your house or the place where you gain consciousness. Explore it, go through walls (this is pretty cool the first time). Then try to go to some place you know. After that try to go to a place you don't know (just wish you were there and you will). In space you will be able to see whats going on there (of course in the astral plane) and you will see the entrance to the "tunnels" (the most awesome thing of the astral plane). You will see that with time, your astral body will be more attracted to go up to these tunnels. Sometimes ou can't control it and it just float up to the entrance and you choose which tunnel you want to take. Thats it for now, that was a long post but I think it was helpful. Get stoned and read it again and again.

[KJ7]

Wow I just read through this thread and I'm very interested in it. For about the past 2-3 months, I've been having really vivid dreams. Most are always different, but all of them are very detailed. I remember about 70% of them for a few days, then just tend to forget about them. But the wierd part about some of them is that I realize while dreaming that it is a dream, and tend to go with it. Sometimes I'll wake up and be like damn, that was cool, I kinda want to continue that. So I'll fall back to sleep for about another hour or so, and continue on with the same dream. During this time, I can feel my body physically, but am still dreaming pretty hardcore. While I understand that this possible might be some form of lucid dreaming, I've never really heard of astral projection until now. Next time I go to sleep I'll try some of the techniques described in this thread.

[-E-]

Puerto, u know how u sed about going thru walls in the astral plane, is it really like ure just in the normal world, like do you feel ure in a normal world then u can suddenly go thru walls, that must feel fucked man, also do you think this is a good technique to achieve astral projection.

http://www.crystalinks.com/astral.html

[solid]

I have had one lucid dream and it dident last long but i am very interested in lucid dreams and AP. I was wondering when you get you astral eyes or start to move in your astral body does everything look the same and feel the same, or does it have a glow or a different color. Basicaly will you know when you are in your astral body?

[RuseOfMetacarpi]

I actually had my very first recognizable lucid dream a couple weeks ago. My dream was actually me waking up and walking around my room, until I realized this was definitely a dream. My friends eventually came over, I produced a huge sack of weed, and then I woke up and felt completely shaken, so much that I threw up. It was tight.

[PuertoRicanInMD]

Originally Posted by -E-

Puerto, u know how u sed about going thru walls in the astral plane, is it really like ure just in the normal world, like do you feel ure in a normal world then u can suddenly go thru walls, that must feel fucked man, also do you think this is a good technique to achieve astral projection.

http://www.crystalinks.com/astral.html

It looks like the physical world but it doesn't feel like that. In the astral plane you can feel the energy of anything, your feel your body full of energy. Also you can feel a stronger vibration in your body. I can't describe that very well, all I know is that it feels so good that you will want to stay there for a while. Unfortunately you can stay as long as you have energy. When you go through a wall it doesn't feel weird. You just go walk towards the wall and then you will realize that you can see through the wall but you look back and you will see that you passed through the wall. Remember to have good intentions when trying astral projection.

[PuertoRicanInMD]

Originally Posted by solid

I have had one lucid dream and it dident last long but i am very interested in lucid dreams and AP. I was wondering when you get you astral eyes or start to move in your astral body does everything look the same and feel the same, or does it have a glow or a different color. Basicaly will you know when you are in your astral body?

As I replied to -E- it looks similar but it feels different. Sometimes it is possible to see the energy of things and it is like a glow. Also when you are projected you can see that your body is also glowing. Everything have like a light that is not very powerful but you can see it. That's energy. But the object is not very different than it's physical dimension.

[PuertoRicanInMD]

Originally Posted by KJ7

Wow I just read through this thread and I'm very interested in it. For about the past 2-3 months, I've been having really vivid dreams. Most are always different, but all of them are very detailed. I remember about 70% of them for a few days, then just tend to forget about them. But the wierd part about some of them is that I realize while dreaming that it is a dream, and tend to go with it. Sometimes I'll wake up and be like damn, that was cool, I kinda want to continue that. So I'll fall back to sleep for about another hour or so, and continue on with the same dream. During this time, I can feel my body physically, but am still dreaming pretty hardcore. While I understand that this possible might be some form of lucid dreaming, I've never really heard of astral projection until now. Next time I go to sleep I'll try some of the techniques described in this thread.

Next time you have that kind of experience try to float or at least get up from your bed, not physically. Just wish you can float and try to feel it.

[PuertoRicanInMD]

-E-,

The technique about the numbers is good I used it several times but without the visualization of the orbs just the number. The Monroe technique is also useful but they complicated it too much in that website. Tha main thing is to relax and try to get out in the border where you are falling asleep. Choose the technique you think is better for you and stay with it. Don't change techinques too often becuase you will not be able to project. Try to dominate one and after you can project easily with that one you can try another. Don't get frustrated the first and maybe second month, keep practicing. It is hard for the body and the mind to go in a state that they are not used to be.

[TheDank]

Originally Posted by Doob

I've been both lucid dreaming and doing a form astral projection (for the record, most people who claim they can astral project are mistaking it for a lucid dream). Now I'm able to do this because of a natural condition know as sleep paralysis which I'm sure a few people here might rememver me talking about that.

But for those of you who do not have sleep paralysis there are a few thing you can do to become a lucid dreamer/astral projector.

1. Before you go to bed repeat to yourself "I will remember my dreams" at least five times, I usually do it for a few minutes, but all the research I've read says that you only need to do it five times. Doing this will make you more aware that you are dreaming, as well as help you remember your dreams.

2. Once you start to remember more of your dreams, and start to remember more deatail from the dream you can start this next step. When you are going to bed and after you have recited "I will remember my dreams" start to focus on somthing like a colour or somthing that would really stick out in a dream. Personally I focus on the colour blue. By doing this there there will be a better chance that the colour(i'm pretty sure I'm spelling this wrong, but oh well) or object will appear in your dream. For me, I know I'm dreaming when there is allot of blue in my dreams, or the whole dream will have a blue tint to it.

3. After a while you start to realize that when you see that object that you have focusing on that you are dreaming. Once you realize your dreaming you can controll the dream. At first you will not be able to stay awake for to long once you realize your dreaming, but after allot of practice you will gain complete control of not only your body, but your dreams.

that's your guide to lucid dreaming, you will have to master that before going on to astral projection.

Once you get full controll of your body (being able to control your dreams without waking up) you can make this transition. and for this there is really only one step.

Once you realize your dreaming try to clear head of the dream, you want your mind to be completley clear, again I do this by concentrating on a object that has no meaning, again like a colur. It has to be somthing that won't trigger you to think in depth about it. chanting a calming verse is also known to be very effective. Once your mind is completly under control start focusing on a limb, I usually do my left leg (for no reason other than It's what I'm comforatable doing) just focus on the limb thinking about how light it feels, how it's so light it could just float into the air. You should start to feel it getting lighter and lighter, once it feels like it's in the air go to another limb untill both arms and legs feel as if they are floating. Next just move on to what ever part feels the heaviest. If it worked for you then you should now feel like your whole body is floating. Again you will most likely wake up at this point so this will take allot of practice. But once you can stay asleep for long enough you can have what seems like an out of body experience or astral project (again it is not known if astral projection in it's true form is actually possible).

Sorry for the long post but I hope this info will be helpfull to those who are patient enough to give it a shot.

I know I spelled allot wrong but I'm nice and blazed right now.

Doob...How does Sleep Paralysis help a persone in Astrol Projection? I've been experiencing Sleep Paralysis sinc eI was 3 years old (im now 17). I have had a couple OBE's and one time did corolate to me having SP right b4hand. I have always been real interested in these types of things because they have been happening uncontrolably to me for almost 15 years. I am a pretty spiritual person (not religious) and have always been pretty intouch with myself have never been able to harsen to energy or the ability to perform these. Also how do I get comfortable with Sleep Paralysis? Cuz when it happens to me my body starts to heat up and get real uncomfortable and so i fight to get out of it but obviously I can't.

[nametaken]

Ive been having these weird vibrations sometimes, and i wonder if you(puerto) mean the same thing. This is how mine go, right before falling asleep, everthing begins to shake, im guessing its in my head, but it just gets stronger and stronger. And its scary because its so hard to get out of, i cant just open my eyes and its over, it like takes over my body and i have to mentally try to wake myself up. Ive never broken through the vibrations, mainly out of fear. But ive noticed i usually get them the day after sleeping stoned.

And as fot this whole experience, what are the benefits. It sounds like were just floating through our brains, going through memories and such. But i definately think its possible to control your dreams and have astral projections, just takes some deep realxation and concentration.

[-E-]

Puerto, have you ever had any scary experiances while tryin to AP, i was quite high the other night and was attempting to AP when all of a sudden i felt some horrible feelings of anxiety and terror, my vision then went quite blurry and i was gettin tingly feelings all up my body, strange thing was i could control these tingly feelings and kept moving them up and down my body until i felt close to leaving my body, but as i came close to it using the rope technique i suddenly got a quick shock of these horrible feelings of fear and terror again and had to stop.

Is this a normal thing or should i attempt to keep a calm clear mind whilst doing AP? Also, you sed u can go thru walls, well wot is to stop you going thru the floor when u AP, also, can you see yourself on the bed, and how far from your body can you move, have u ever decided to fly into space, do you get the same feelings of cold and nothingness as someone really in space would?
lol im sorry for all these questions man, its just i was pretty worried bout that experiance i had.