Astral Projection (Lucid Dreams)

[Doob]

/\/\/\so true /\/\/\

I know the first few times I was able to astral project I tried to seek people out, but it wasn't the greatest experience, it's almost not comforatable and would always cause the experience to end. After a while I just started doing my own thing, trying to do and see as many things as possible. I've never been able to get too close to some one else but I have always wanted to.

[Mr Skinner]

Originally Posted by PuertoRicanInMD

Astral projection not only depends on you capacity to concentrate or relax. Part of it is the intention, why you want to do astral projection (otherwise you will be in a lucid dream without the capacity of controlling it). That test doesn't sound like something that is going to help me to grow spiritually.

That is not the intention of the test..reread my proposal. I wanna know if you're dreaming (what I actually believe) or if you really can visit other physical places...

Here's the catch:

If it really were possible, with our technology we would already have exploited and perfected it. We would have learned it and taught our children...this way families and friends could stay in touch way better than today...just go visit mom on a slow evening...

But of course there's the possibility that tele- and internet companies have a secret circle who rounds up every scientist involved in research on the matter, put a mind probe in him, then delete everything he knows...so he doesn't ruin their business...but that's just for cracked up conspiracy nuts

[aH1GH3Rpower]

Im gonna read the thread after i post this. But ive been reading about Astrol Projection lately and it hit me that ive reached it before with out realizing it. Ive just been sitting with my eyes closed relaxing and BAM somehow im able to see through my eyelids and everything is so clear. I know it sounds like a fucked up dream but its different than a dream somehow. I dont know how to explain it. I wish i would have got up and looked around

[Corn-dog]

I'm very intrested in astral projection, i've had lucid dreams, but not for about a year now that i think about, i've never tried to control it because most of my lucid dreams were me facing my fears. I've also had an OBE when i hit my head very hard when i was a kid, i hit the pavement with my head and when that happend i felt myself rise out of my body i was floating above my body, wierd thing is my body appeared to be moving even though i was floating above it, at that point a blacked out, and awoke about 20 feet from where i was, everyone who was thier had no idea i had been out of my body, they were unaware, i had even talked to someone while i was out of body.

I've done a bit of research on it, im quite good at self-hipnosis and can get my body to a very relaxed state, even that of feeling floating, after reading this post before a went to bed last night i put myself into deep relaxation and tried to get out of body, i felt like i was very close, but every time i felt like that my heart beat was starting to increase, and an overall feeling of nervousness. (if it makes any sense i felt like i could get 1 leg out, but at this point i kept comming back)

My other question is this, when i've actually made it out of my body will i need to open my eyes to see my sorrunding, i've heard some donot have thier astral vision at first and may not be able to see. Or will be like being able to see through my eyelids.

I also have a good imagination and can create objects/places/etc. in my mind, i feel very close to being able to get thier, but i'm not 100% what the best method is to reach the astral plane.

Finally, is it best to start trying to have more lucid dreams again before trying to get to the astral plane.

Im extremely intrested, any advice, or good reading material you might have on this subject please pass it my way, thnx

[PuertoRicanInMD]

Originally Posted by Corn-dog

but every time i felt like that my heart beat was starting to increase, and an overall feeling of nervousness. (

That feeling of nervousness is what you have to control. Just don't pay attention to it becauseas you experienced it, that feeling won't let you go out completely. It sounds like you have a good capacity to get out. As soon as you feel that you are out of your body try to stay relax and open your eyes slowly, without a hurry.

[PuertoRicanInMD]

Originally Posted by aH1GH3Rpower

Im gonna read the thread after i post this. But ive been reading about Astrol Projection lately and it hit me that ive reached it before with out realizing it. Ive just been sitting with my eyes closed relaxing and BAM somehow im able to see through my eyelids and everything is so clear. I know it sounds like a fucked up dream but its different than a dream somehow. I dont know how to explain it. I wish i would have got up and looked around

That clearness is the astral plane. It just looks like the real world but more clear. Also it feels different. Your body feels well because it is vibrating at a higher level so you will be able to feel things from a different perspective. Next time you get that vision of the astral plane try to stand up, relaxed, like if you were going to stand up with your physiscal body. Or just try to levitate, feel your body floating and try to "fly" at a distance that you know you are out of your body, where your astral body and your physical body are apart. Keep up the good work.

[PuertoRicanInMD]

Originally Posted by Mr Skinner

That is not the intention of the test..reread my proposal. I wanna know if you're dreaming (what I actually believe) or if you really can visit other physical places...

Here's the catch:

If it really were possible, with our technology we would already have exploited and perfected it. We would have learned it and taught our children...this way families and friends could stay in touch way better than today...just go visit mom on a slow evening...

But of course there's the possibility that tele- and internet companies have a secret circle who rounds up every scientist involved in research on the matter, put a mind probe in him, then delete everything he knows...so he doesn't ruin their business...but that's just for cracked up conspiracy nuts

I guarantee you I can visit other places but of course it will be the astral part of that place since evreything has an astral part (even if the object looks the same, it just doesn't feel the same). I have visited my home back in Puerto Rico several times but haven't talked to anyone. Technology is not able to catch anything from the astral plane (at least for now), since technology is created in the physical plane but I can tell you that technology is helping people to project themselves (have you heard of astral projection tapes?). For some people, these audio recordings work but I haven't tried one yet. Also there is scientific proof that something happens when the person is projecting himself/herself, it just that tecnology is unable to record what it is (but again, for now).

[DankSpank]

I believe the CIA was doing some research on using AP for spies, but of course anything to come out of that would be classified, so we will never know.

[RavenousDespair]

Yeah! i've really been interested in the sleep aspects. I've read alot about sleep and dreams.

If you could openly give suggestions, or techniques that would provide an optimal setting for astral projection to occur....

also i've known about lucid dreaming since i was in the 8th grade (now a senior and bout to grad)

but i rarely rarely have them....its sad...but i have had them for a bout two times (fucking great great experience its like your own fucking world you can do anyfucking thing you fucking want to!! its so fucking fucking fucking great)) sorry for all the fucking 'fuck' words but i love lucid dreams

btw back in the day(before the mj experiences) i used to actually be excited to go to bed bc i was very into the dreaming experience and tried so hard to initiate lucid dreaming...

[Mr Skinner]

Originally Posted by PuertoRicanInMD

I guarantee you I can visit other places but of course it will be the astral part of that place since evreything has an astral part (even if the object looks the same, it just doesn't feel the same). I have visited my home back in Puerto Rico several times but haven't talked to anyone.

So tell me, and be thorough, it's important for me further questions: Does an astral projection represent a physical place in all its details? And does it change as the physical place changes? E.g. if someone builds a new house on Hawaii, does that house appear in the new astral projection?

Originally Posted by PuertoRicanInMD

Technology is not able to catch anything from the astral plane (at least for now), since technology is created in the physical plane but I can tell you that technology is helping people to project themselves (have you heard of astral projection tapes?). For some people, these audio recordings work but I haven't tried one yet. Also there is scientific proof that something happens when the person is projecting himself/herself, it just that tecnology is unable to record what it is (but again, for now).

My bad, I should have said science, not technology.

I'm trying to do a pretty simple scientific experiment here. I bet me arse it's been done before with the results I'm expecting. If astral projection were possible, you should be able to bring or receive a message in a controlled environment.

Science can prove and disprove astral projection. If they find out it really works, they'd do some more research and if it's really as easy as you say, they'll teach it to the rest of the world. But I don't see and classes around. So I don't quite believe it yet.

Now would you be willing to prove me wrong by partaking in me experiment?

[Corn-dog]

jack houck did lots of studys in what your talking about mr. skinner, comparing things in the real plane to astral plane. He has all of his findings on his website, and does spoon bending partys.

The Simple answer is yes/no. A particular study they locked a women in a room had her astral project to another room and retrieve a 5 digit number above a counter, it took her 4 days but she retrieved the number. I've only been able to get to the point of viberation and have not yet astral projected, but have been obe before. So i can't really say, but i actually astral projected from hitting my head extremely hard when i was younger, hit my head, and ended up above my body looking down seeing myself and my friends, but i kept floating away so only got a good 30secs.

[-E-]

Holy f*cking shit!

I had an experiance very very similar to this, i was dreaming and a certain event happened in the dream that i knew was impossible (cant remember wot) i then realised i was in a dream and could freely move around in my dream and do wot i wanted. Then in the real world sumthing caused a loud bang in my room, i suddenly jolted out of the dream and into my body again, except for after a while, i slowly came out of my body, i was dreaming about leaving my body, and i did, i left my body, but rather than flying i was more swimming in the air, hard to explain lol, i then walked down my street, then started running, i ran and ran and raaaan until i slowly lifted into the air and literally felt myself fly, then it all became too much and i woke up.

ever since that experiance i have been trying to find out wot exactly it was i experianced, and as stupid as it sounds i always felt if i could master this experiance then there would be no need for drugs in my life lol, weird i know.
my god man im so happy you guys have brought this to my attention, now i know the technique and hope to achieve that same amazing experiance again, thanks.

unfortunately when i started 'flying' i woke up, can you really just fly like to another country like u sed u flew to puerto rico, is everything accurate, i have never ever been to my family's country of iran, but would i be able to fly there in one of these experiances, and see things ive never seen, sorry if this sounds completely stupid but im very interested and excited about this.

[cloudNINE]

I'm interested in all these sleep related topics also! Just yesterday I had a weird experience, I'm not sure how to classify it. Anyways, I was laying there, and I could feel myself falling asleep- like my brain shut down but my body was still awake. I don't know, anyone that's had sleep paralysis knows what I'm talking about. It was THAT feeling of sleep paralysis, except there were so scary as fuck dead dudes coming, this time I felt my body tense up and I felt myself spinning rapidly, then all of a sudden I lifted off and seemed to fly directly straight up. A part of me knew I was still on my bed, so I wasn't scared, as similar experiences have happened before--just not of this magnitude. The weird this is, while i was launching up I could feel myself kind of being pushed into my bed. I used to be afraid of these experiences and still kinda am, but it's nowintriguing me seeing all these people with similar "out of body" experiences. I think I should mention throughout the experience my eyes were closed, and it can't have lasted more than 10 seconds. Weird. Anyone know what my experience would be?

[PuertoRicanInMD]

Originally Posted by -E-

Holy f*cking shit!

I had an experiance very very similar to this, i was dreaming and a certain event happened in the dream that i knew was impossible (cant remember wot) i then realised i was in a dream and could freely move around in my dream and do wot i wanted. Then in the real world sumthing caused a loud bang in my room, i suddenly jolted out of the dream and into my body again, except for after a while, i slowly came out of my body, i was dreaming about leaving my body, and i did, i left my body, but rather than flying i was more swimming in the air, hard to explain lol, i then walked down my street, then started running, i ran and ran and raaaan until i slowly lifted into the air and literally felt myself fly, then it all became too much and i woke up.

ever since that experiance i have been trying to find out wot exactly it was i experianced, and as stupid as it sounds i always felt if i could master this experiance then there would be no need for drugs in my life lol, weird i know.
my god man im so happy you guys have brought this to my attention, now i know the technique and hope to achieve that same amazing experiance again, thanks.

unfortunately when i started 'flying' i woke up, can you really just fly like to another country like u sed u flew to puerto rico, is everything accurate, i have never ever been to my family's country of iran, but would i be able to fly there in one of these experiances, and see things ive never seen, sorry if this sounds completely stupid but im very interested and excited about this.

Hey man, congratulations, you had a very good first lucid experience. The first time, most of the people, when they realize they are dreaming, they wake up. About the flying question, the answer is yes, it is the preferred method of the astral body to move around but as it happened to you some people try to fly to soon and they wake up because is kind of scary the first time 'cause you are not used to fly by yourself(duh, lol). In the astral plane you can go anywhere and you don't have to literally travel to that place if you don't want to. Just wish that you were in that place you want to go, even if have never been there and you will be there. Also if you want to wake up in there (in astral plane of course) just go to bed and try to imagine the place or just think about it.

Another thing, you used one of the most difficult techniques to gain conscoiusness of the astral projection and that is to recognize a weird event that tells you, you are dreaming. That is pretty "hardcore" because you were asleep already and you managed to wake up your astral body without waking up your physical body. Stay in that path, you have talent for this. Keep practicing no matter what happens. It took months to me to be able to astral project.

[PuertoRicanInMD]

Originally Posted by Mr Skinner

So tell me, and be thorough, it's important for me further questions: Does an astral projection represent a physical place in all its details? And does it change as the physical place changes? E.g. if someone builds a new house on Hawaii, does that house appear in the new astral projection?

Yes my curious friend (lol). Everything have an astral dimension, sometimes it looks exactly like the one in the physical world, sometimes a little different but you know what it is. I wnat you to try because you are hungry of knowledge and those are the best kind of people to get involved in this.