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View Poll Results: Do u go to Chruch?
Yes, i Belive! 32 25.40%
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Old 10-09-2005, 08:43 PM
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wow am i the only one? come on, i know god loves me because of the weed he gives us lol. but if u think about it theres gotta be something more and the bible is the only thing that is a wirtten record of the past so i choose to belive in it and its teachings. if any thing iv wasted and hour a week and i lived as a good person if it turns out to be false. thats just my opinion tho. but what ever you do is ur own thing and more power to u.
 
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Old 10-09-2005, 08:57 PM
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Why do you so willingly accept the bible as truth? Have you read the Torah or the Qur'an?
 
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Old 10-09-2005, 09:19 PM
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religion is a matter of heart an mind....

I went to church every sunday till I had my drivers lic.....after that I went when I wanted to....

Most faiths promote congregating to show an share faith....however if you have faith in a religion of any type you are your own church.....it is in your heart an mind....you dont need, an are not required to attend a formal regement to any given building to be a good anything....

I dont like an never have liked the organized an commercialized idea of church...Most are a business an they all depend on "selling" to survive an grow...I dont feel the need to pay for or "buy" my peace of mind about religion..

I keep my beliefs to myself simply because NOBODY will ever agree...

In the end....its a personal issue that each individual chooses to embrace or not.

Judging a person on the grounds of attending church is meaningless....If Charles Manson went to church everyday of his life would he have a better chance then any of us?....no....if Heaven exists and accepting god as your personal savior is the way in then on his or our death bed any of us could get there.....it wouldnt matter if you lived in a church or never went one day....theoretically you could be the most evil person in history an repent on your deathbed by asking to be "saved" an bingo your in.......an you could hang out with Moses......
 
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Old 10-09-2005, 10:08 PM
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ya i see what ur saying and my chruch doesn't sell or buy anything. i don't like that business part of it so i found a chruch that doesn't do it. its kinda small becuase of it but oh well my chruch has yearly trips to ethuopia and russia to help build up chruchs there i think thats good.

and i accept the bible as truth because of the history channel so much info on it. i saw this one thing on it that these exploers found a blanket with jesus's in print on it. its the oldest thing they have...turns out by all this resherch and junk that its true. also they found noah's ark on some moutin top. intersting stuff
 
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Old 10-09-2005, 10:15 PM
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also they found noah's ark on some moutin top. intersting stuff
Was it big enough to fit 2 of EVERY species in it?

They also claim to have found the tower of Babylon. They say it was 95 or so meters high...
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/sam-ha...u-_b_8459.html

There is No God (And You Know It)

by Sam Harris

Somewhere in the world a man has abducted a little girl. Soon he will rape, torture, and kill her. If an atrocity of this kind not occurring at precisely this moment, it will happen in a few hours, or days at most. Such is the confidence we can draw from the statistical laws that govern the lives of six billion human beings.

The same statistics also suggest that this girl’s parents believe -- at this very moment -- that an all-powerful and all-loving God is watching over them and their family. Are they right to believe this? Is it good that they believe this?

No.

The entirety of atheism is contained in this response. Atheism is not a philosophy; it is not even a view of the world; it is simply a refusal to deny the obvious. Unfortunately, we live in a world in which the obvious is overlooked as a matter of principle. The obvious must be observed and re-observed and argued for. This is a thankless job. It carries with it an aura of petulance and insensitivity. It is, moreover, a job that the atheist does not want.

It is worth noting that no one ever need identify himself as a non-astrologer or a non-alchemist. Consequently, we do not have words for people who deny the validity of these pseudo-disciplines. Likewise, “atheism” is a term that should not even exist. Atheism is nothing more than the noises reasonable people make when in the presence of religious dogma. The atheist is merely a person who believes that the 260 million Americans (eighty-seven percent of the population) who claim to “never doubt the existence of God” should be obliged to present evidence for his existence -- and, indeed, for his benevolence, given the relentless destruction of innocent human beings we witness in the world each day. Only the atheist appreciates just how uncanny our situation is: most of us believe in a God that is every bit as specious as the gods of Mount Olympus; no person, whatever his or her qualifications, can seek public office in the United States without pretending to be certain that such a God exists; and much of what passes for public policy in our country conforms to religious taboos and superstitions appropriate to a medieval theocracy. Our circumstance is abject, indefensible, and terrifying. It would be hilarious if the stakes were not so high.

Consider: the city of New Orleans was recently destroyed by hurricane Katrina. At least a thousand people died, tens of thousands lost all their earthly possessions, and over a million have been displaced. It is safe to say that almost every person living in New Orleans at the moment Katrina struck believed in an omnipotent, omniscient, and compassionate God. But what was God doing while a hurricane laid waste to their city? Surely He heard the prayers of those elderly men and women who fled the rising waters for the safety of their attics, only to be slowly drowned there. These were people of faith. These were good men and women who had prayed throughout their lives. Only the atheist has the courage to admit the obvious: these poor people spent their lives in the company of an imaginary friend.

This is an excerpt from An Atheist Manifesto, to be published at www.truthdig.com in December.


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ya i see what ur saying and my chruch doesn't sell or buy anything. i don't like that business part of it so i found a chruch that doesn't do it. its kinda small becuase of it but oh well my chruch has yearly trips to ethuopia and russia to help build up chruchs there i think thats good.

and i accept the bible as truth because of the history channel so much info on it. i saw this one thing on it that these exploers found a blanket with jesus's in print on it. its the oldest thing they have...turns out by all this resherch and junk that its true. also they found noah's ark on some moutin top. intersting stuff
yea, jesus was a real person
but it doesnt mean that his teachings were real
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Old 10-10-2005, 12:52 AM
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i believe in jesus, i dont really practice the christian religion all that shit, never goto church, but u know might as well believe in something, dont believe almost anything from the bible, especially that bullshit adam and eve shit, ever here of LUCY? skeleton in um africa i believe im not sure, over a billion years old where as adam and ever werent around that time at all...
 
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Old 10-10-2005, 01:11 AM
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omg that is so fucking gay why do all u people get all pissy if we go to chruch, y do u get so fucking mad when we say god loves u! WTF all these bitchs r tryin to prove there is no god and push this shit on us!?!?!?!!! come on its unconstinual to say under god in the pledage. r u afread that we might damage ur godless children?!? if u don't belive then don't belive!!! its that simple! and all the bad shit that happens is a test. god can't controll every human being! Fuck YOU and jesus loves You!
 
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omg that is so fucking gay why do all u people get all pissy if we go to chruch, y do u get so fucking mad when we say god loves u! WTF all these bitchs r tryin to prove there is no god and push this shit on us!?!?!?!!! come on its unconstinual to say under god in the pledage. r u afread that we might damage ur godless children?!? if u don't belive then don't belive!!! its that simple! and all the bad shit that happens is a test. god can't controll every human being! Fuck YOU and jesus loves You!
than dont push it on us
im sick of ppl saying that im going to hell for not believing
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if u wont let me say i dont really believe and then let me say why, then i dont want u to tell me "god" loves me asshole, no need to be such a douche, if people have scientifical evidence of wrong things in the bible, jesus fuckin christ u asshole
 
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haha bum i was tryin to say the same shit at the same time lol
 
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Old 10-10-2005, 01:17 AM
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Ive never been to a church in my life and dont plan on going.

Never been to anything like that, Religously i mean.

My mas into that, She was brought up on it.

My pops, My bro and I dont belive in it and dont go either.

I used to belive in it, I believed everything my ma said when i was young.

Then when i got older, I realized shes fucking crazy, And my pops is the level headed one who always held everything together.

Now shes still into it, And i havent for a long time.

And i realize shes kinda childish/crazy about alot of things.

And the crazy thing is, I smoke weed multible times a day, I drink almost every day. I pop pills. I eat shrooms. I snort coke. I do alot of drugs and mix them. I do more illegal things then just drugs.

And im the level headed common sense person compared to my ma. My dad drinks, Smokes weed and occasioanly snorts coke and does pills, Not often like when he was younger.

And i got my shit from him.

Its odd that the drug user is the stronger person, Is the more down to earth and has more common sense person. We look more for fact then being gullible. We are see it to belive it people. We work to get wherveer we have to. We dont ask for help. We do what we want and do what we know is right.

And my ma's the opposite, She smokes weed, Shes into xanax but honestly thinks its because she's too stressed and it helps, Not because shes stressed and its a buzz that relives it like weed.

She drinks on the weekends, But not much at all.

Shes a christian, Shes fucking like a child, She cant handle herself. She stresses out over normal things. Shes jus crazy its hard to explain.

Its odd how what soceity thinks is not right when you look at it from my eyes.
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but they are
its proven

b/c atheists think more about the religion, rather than just believing what they hear

most scientists are atheists

i told my dad that and he said, yea, and than you can see all the scientists in hell, lol
he was kidding thuogh, lol
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well that because science disproves religion in most ways.
 
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