The Western Society

[Sitting Bowl]

Dude, ive thinking heavily on our Western culture (Europe/Americas), nothing makes sense. The things we do, the way we interact with one another, Capitalism; nothing about our culture makes sense, yet everyone follows eachother blindly beacuse thats how they are raised, why would anyone question it? Because its fucking retarded. What the fuck is fast food, what the fuck are video games, what the fuck is professional sports, and why do we watch TV. Sorry for all this nonsense, i have all kinds of thoughts and im horrible at explaining them, but just think about our culture, where we are, where we are headed.... fucking religion. We should all join up with the native americans and live off the land and eat peyote.

Capitalism sucks beacause you have to think of it as one pool of money, if someone is rich, someone else HAS to be poor, which is messed up. Communism sucks too though... money in general sucks.

I dont know if ive made a point yet, but just think about your daily rutine, and how far off it is from actualy life (living like animals). LIFE has been made so easy for us that we frett over all the small things that in actuality dont matter one bit. "oh does she like me", "i want that car"...???

I think its time for some change...

[fAKdded]

I know what you mean, The world is in a downwawrd spiral in general at this rate.

[hotsauc3]

It's always nice to see another person wakeup to their suroundings. I agree with you on all of your points. Remember change not only lies in the present time, it is present time.

[Litew8stoner]

Well I can't agree with you on the video games (for now), but yes indeed- money sucks.

In the ideal world, everything we need material wise will be made from hemp. We will recycle metal. We abandon cars. We smoke the weed and do pshychedelics for fun and mental healing. We have no money, we work for what we want.

want your food? Help the farmer pick the vegetables and he'll help you out.

want herb? Grow your own, or help the grower prune or water or some shit..

want electronics? Hopefully we'll be having too much fun and doing enough work to live without.

[stoned_soldier]

live your words man.. go into the wilderness and do exactly what you believe in.. otherwise, you know what you are.. _ _________

[420420420]

Originally Posted by Litew8stoner

Well I can't agree with you on the video games (for now), but yes indeed- money sucks.

In the ideal world, everything we need material wise will be made from hemp. We will recycle metal. We abandon cars. We smoke the weed and do pshychedelics for fun and mental healing. We have no money, we work for what we want.

want your food? Help the farmer pick the vegetables and he'll help you out.

want herb? Grow your own, or help the grower prune or water or some shit..

want electronics? Hopefully we'll be having too much fun and doing enough work to live without.

good luck trying to introduce that to mainstream america



oh and about recycling, i heard that the amount of fossil fuels that are used to recycle are actually worse for the environment. and we have enough alluminum left in the world that recycling it is pointless

[Peace Pipe]

I had a revelation like that last year, then I decided that it was a result of our flawed instinctual emotions like greed, lust and revenge.

Our instincts drive our thought process.

I think that most people don't give the correct appreciation to their free-will and let themselves be ruled by addiction and emotion (or are emotions addiction?)

In my opinion people need to just get together and think, not make any decisions, but just look around and observe and see what society is lead by.

Western Society has been run by greed for much of history, in the edo era of Japan people were open and had few wars due to there focus on expanding the mind through meditation and discpline and Japan flourished spiritualy, but then Japan was exposed to western culture and and the appreciation(sp?) of the mind was replaced by the appreciation of wealth and the medji era started, and it started with a horrible civil war where many people died because of greed.

Hope that made some sense

[PorkSoda]

yup... i agree with you 100%....

and i think that is why marijuana is illegal... because it helps you think outside of the box and question all the bullshit around us...and if enough people start smoking ... who knows..

[stoned_soldier]

no, marijuana is illegal because if it were legal, paper companies and acetominophen companies would go out of business.. it's all economics.. Kimberly-Clark helped ban the farming of hemp and shelped start the whole reefer madness.. also in that era, (late 1930s) a new invention was released that made hemp easier to harvest and that would hurt these companies..

the following is an incomplete list of companies who support criminalization excerpted from Ed Rosenthal's "Why Marijuana Should Be Legal"

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Partial List of Contributors to "Partnership for a Drug Free America" by the Amount of Contribution

<i>Gold Medallion</i>
Bayer Corporation
Consumer Healthcare Products Association
Kimberly-Clark Foundation Inc.
McNeil Consumer & Specialty Pharmaceuticals
Novartis Consumer Health, Inc.
Pfizer Foundation, Inc.
Pharmacia Corporation
Schering-Plough Corporation

<i>Silver Medallion</i>
ExxonMobil Foundation
The UPS Foundation

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that's only a partial list, I've narrowed down to suspicious contributors

most of them are healthcare products and drug companies who would lose lots of money if marijuana were decriminalized (meaning not criminal in any sense - legal, not to be confused with decrim laws) they would lose money.. marijuana is a good source for headache relief and pain relief, and hemp is much tougher and more abundant than paper from trees..

[hotsauc3]

SS hit the nail on the head. But I'm sure they don't like us thinking that much, all the same.

[stoned_soldier]

for those of you wondering what i blanked out previously, it was "a hypocrite"

if you have these beliefs but don't act on them, well, what more can i say?

me, i adapt to whatever's around me if i'm in it for long enough (i'm talking years), but i don't do it just at the snap of some fingers.. it takes me time to adapt to my surroundings, i am myself and nothing but..

but that's not the topic here, we're talking about the poster Sitting Bowl.. if you sincerely believe in what you're saying, then you should just go AWOL and live with nature.. do it

[Sitting Bowl]

ya i know its hypocritical to not just run away into the woods and chill. But im young(still in high school). I got a lot to learn, and i actualy hope to one day, after college, live completly independent of society... grow my own food, build my own furniture. I think it would be pretty sweat to live like the guy in Cast Away. i probably will sail to some island some day and chill.

[mike59271]

Originally Posted by Sitting Bowl

Capitalism sucks beacause you have to think of it as one pool of money, if someone is rich, someone else HAS to be poor, which is messed up. Communism sucks too though... money in general sucks.

I think its time for some change...

There you go. Humans have it in thier instincts to just 'out-do' everyone else, fo r whatever reason/s it may be...attention, insecurity..whatever. Men have a tendency to feel the need to prove themselves to the 'clan' and show thier better than everyone else. Clearly the one universal way of doing this is money. Why? everyone has it, everyone needs it, everyone wants it. So if you have more of somehting than anyone else, they will look up to you and think, well hes better than me...or so that man thinks the others think of him. Now power and money go hand and hand. If you have money you have power. Money buys power. If you have power, the only way you got it was by having money. So naturally these egotistical people say well i got money, but its not enough, they want more...they want lots of power, all of it infact. So they do things that make no sense, like making pot illegal, just because they can, and because they can profit from it. I can garrentee you that some of the players in the making of pot illegal, profited from its illegality. They probably made money on the black market and stuff, wouldnt surprise me...look at me rambling on and on, loosing my point.

[DaZEED&ConFuseD]

I applaud Western society. First off, life isn't fair. There will always be someone on top and someone on the botton in this world. It is human nature to want and gain power. Even in the animal kingdom, animals fight for control of territory b/c they will be more successful with more territory.

Honestly, where else in the world are people more equal than here in America. People who work hard and have some intelligence can make something of themselves. There are so many grants and free hand outs to people of the lower class to climb the social ladder. Its naive to think that CEOs do nothing but play golf and go on vacation. The climb up the corporate ladder is ruthless and isn't something that any person could do. I do believe that CEOs get paid too much and get too many benefits, but oh well... life isn't fair.

[hotsauc3]

There will always be someone on top and someone on the botton in this world. It is human nature to want and gain power. Even in the animal kingdom, animals fight for control of territory b/c they will be more successful with more territory.

There is no one on top, or the bottom of the world. There are a few people on top, and many on the bottom. It's an archaic system. One I'd only want power in to bring about some form of change. Greed is human nature on a primitive level, to question is true human nature.

As for animals, they only kill under the circumstances. Predators kill, or they die. No energy is wasted on useless confrontations, unless they are vital to survival. I doubt a corrupt CEO is going to impale you on his pen after an auspicious takeover.