The Theory of Evolution

[DaZEED&ConFuseD]

I love this!!!

First off cottons, do you have PhD in physics or geology? Do you even have a masters in those fields?

If you dont then who are you to say these dating techniques are flawed just from reading articles off the internet? Articles I might add that usually come from creationists sites. So cottons have you yourself ever done any dating techniques? Do you even know the procedure and all the methods that they use when dating rocks and such?

You are exactly right Cottons scientists have been wrong many times in the past before. However, i have been looking around and haven't found any serious scientific debate on whether the dating techniques are flawed. If you can find some please bring it to my attention. So lets recap... no serious evidence has been presented to scientists on the validity of dating techniques and no serious scientific debate has occurred.

GUESS WHAT COTTONS??!?!?! IT HASN'T HAPPENED YET! Radioactive techniques have been around since the 1950's and they are still being used! That says something!

The whole point of saying that is so you will understand so far nothing has debunked these theories. So.... so far these dating techniques are held true. Cottons and opivy, unless you guys have PhDs in physics and geology, who are you to argue agaisnts these theories based on information you read off the internet? Especially you Opivy, are you still in high school?

You want to talk about assumptions cottons and opivy. How about assuming God created the universe with no real proof, assuming christianity is the correct religion. Did you know cottons that islam, hinduism ,and judieism all have prophecies that have come true cottons? A muslim would argue to you cottons about islam being the correct religion and bring up all this proof like you would to prove you are wrong? BUT christianity must be right! All religions are based on assumptions. Look at you cottons, trying to say christianity isn't full of assmuptions. You sit here and argue evolution isnt true because you cant see evolution happening or bitch about where's all the in between fossils. Guess what, you can't see God. You didn't see God create the world in 6 days, but you ASSUME its true because it is your FAITH. All you have is the bible to back you up, but the bible could very well be wrong. You keep bringing up this global flood. BTW, you have to ASSUME the water shot up high enough for it freeze. Many religions in the middle east and asia have stories about a flood. Of course Christianity is right and all those stories are inccorect because their dieties are wrong and make believe. Once again, you are a hypocrite.

Opivy where are these dino links? Please guys, prove to my dinosaurs roamed the earth while man was still alive! If you can prove to me this, then i might actually begin to consider the earth.

How are multiple ice ages an assumptions when they can look at the damn ice and see that the temperature was x amount lower for x amount of years. Thats not assumption, thats an observation.

Cottons they have methods for findinng out how much material was in the rock. I have no PhD in geology or physics so i don't know exactly how it works. But you still don't understand science. What benefit would it be for people who seek knowlodge and want to understand more about the earth to use techniques that are so flawed? If you truely understood science, then you'd know these flaws would have been stamped out. Obviously people have had to argue your claims before, you cant be the first to claim this. However, nothing has changed so CURRENTLY you are wrong.

So cottons, when you have gained your PhD and proved to the world that all the earth sciences are wrong and in fact the earth is indeed 10000 years old, i will tip my hat to you.

[Opivy]

Oh you have to have a PhD in certain fields to debate in this thread? Oh i'm sorry... I guess i'm out..................


Dino links? Are you that bad at reading man. read what i said again, I dont even want to start an argument about dinosaurs living with people because personally it is very hard to believe and theres not any evidence supporting it. I did mention some things that can bring questions to your head. But i'm not even here to argue about that, I seem to remember stating that after mentioning the dinos.


----Lets quit playing the assuming game okay? Yes cottons and all the other christians didnt see god create the universe in 6 days. Did you see creatures evolve from single celled organisms into the complex and advanced creatures we have today? Ofcourse you didnt. You see what I'm getting at?

Originally Posted by DaZEED&ConFuseD

First off cottons, do you have PhD in physics or geology? Do you even have a masters in those fields?

If you dont then who are you to say these dating techniques are flawed just from reading articles off the internet? Articles I might add that usually come from creationists sites. So cottons have you yourself ever done any dating techniques? Do you even know the procedure and all the methods that they use when dating rocks and such?

Who are you to say they are accurate?

-Somehow we still end up back to the fact that the dating techniques are still being used so they must work. Man do you realize this doesn't prove shit? Its clear we are never going to agree on the accuracy of these dating techniques so we should really give it a rest. But so far the only evidence for an old earth you have given are the dating techniques.

[DaZEED&ConFuseD]

I have no Ph Ds but i'm not here trying to argue why dating techniques are wrong by using other people's arguements.

You still miss the point. I didn't mean that b/c these dating techbniques are being used that this gurantees they work. It just proves that they haven't been proven to be as flawed as y'all claim.

But so far the only evidence for an old earth you have given are the dating techniques.

Go find them for yourself. They have been stated throughout these threads about evolution and creationism. Or just go search the net.

[Opivy]

But i'm lazy!!! Will you do it for me?

[IGotTheCottons]

Originally Posted by DaZEED&ConFuseD

You still miss the point. I didn't mean that b/c these dating techbniques are being used that this gurantees they work. It just proves that they haven't been proven to be as flawed as y'all claim.

Either that, or the dates that would show a young earth are discarded as the "inaccurate" dates because it goes against the old earth theory, and this would mean that the scientists are wrong and that there really is a God that they don't want to believe in...

Originally Posted by DaZEED&ConFuseD

Go find them for yourself. They have been stated throughout these threads about evolution and creationism. Or just go search the net.

No such proof has been given. I've read every page of every thread in here regarding the theory of evolution, and NOWHERE have I seen any real proof. All I see over and over again is 'religion is bullshit, and evolution is right because the scientists say so, even though they have no solid proof... and if the scientists say so it must be right because they're scientists and they wouldn't lie to us'

[KraziHare]

Originally Posted by IGotTheCottons

Either that, or the dates that would show a young earth are discarded as the "inaccurate" dates because it goes against the old earth theory, and this would mean that the scientists are wrong and that there really is a God that they don't want to believe in...



No such proof has been given. I've read every page of every thread in here regarding the theory of evolution, and NOWHERE have I seen any real proof. All I see over and over again is 'religion is bullshit, and evolution is right because the scientists say so, even though they have no solid proof... and if the scientists say so it must be right because they're scientists and they wouldn't lie to us'

You're wrong, there are reams of data that support evolution (here and elsewhere). Moreover someone who believes the bible to a t to the exclusion of well documented and well tested theories has no right to say such things. You're using a classic strawman argument, no one is saying what you're accusing them of saying, you're just placing your own skewed belief system on them to even the playing field.

[DaZEED&ConFuseD]

Cottons there has been tons of solid proof, you just try to discredit it as soon as it is brought about.

Like KraziHare said in another thread... evolution, still after decades, hasn't been disproven. That doesn't mean it is right, but so far not enough serious evidence has been able to debunk it.

Either that, or the dates that would show a young earth are discarded as the "inaccurate" dates because it goes against the old earth theory, and this would mean that the scientists are wrong and that there really is a God that they don't want to believe in...

Man you might have discovered a scientific conspiracy so fiendish that Dan Brown would blush. Come on cottons... now you are playing the conspiracy card. It sounds more like the creationists are wrong and can't stand to be wrong.

[IGotTheCottons]

Originally Posted by DaZEED&ConFuseD

Cottons there has been tons of solid proof, you just try to discredit it as soon as it is brought about.

Such as?