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Old 11-04-2009, 04:35 PM
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Other directions in time

I have been thinking a lot lately about time; what it is, how it relates to space, etc. But one thing that I can't seem to come to a reasonable conclusion on is what happens when you move different directions in time. Everybody thinks of time only in terms of forewards and backwards. However it expands infinitly in all directions, including a direction that we cannot comprehend. So what happens when you move in one of these other directions?

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Would moving sideways equate to a pause?
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I have been thinking a lot lately about time; what it is, how it relates to space, etc. But one thing that I can't seem to come to a reasonable conclusion on is what happens when you move different directions in time. Everybody thinks of time only in terms of forewards and backwards. However it expands infinitly in all directions, including a direction that we cannot comprehend. So what happens when you move in one of these other directions?

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Well time itself is not linear and does not have a direction, other things related to time do. There are three arrows of time. Thermodynamic, psychological, and cosmological arrows of time. All three of these arrows are vectors that give time a direction.

Read Stephen Hawking's A Brief History of Time.

Some of it is a little hard to grasp, but he does a good job writing it in layman's terms.
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We move forward in time incesscently it is the only thing we cannot change or manipulate because it itself is change. Change is constant, our memory of change is what makes us exist. We have a memory of the world and the way it was as well as an ability to predict and perfect the immediate future by judging off past experiences.

So moving in time would can only mean traveling forward in "experience" which I think is impossible...
 
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I have been thinking a lot lately about time; what it is, how it relates to space, etc. But one thing that I can't seem to come to a reasonable conclusion on is what happens when you move different directions in time. Everybody thinks of time only in terms of forewards and backwards. However it expands infinitly in all directions, including a direction that we cannot comprehend. So what happens when you move in one of these other directions?

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If it isn't moving in forward or backward , then it is still moving in a manner which is in relation to both forward and backward. Think of it like an arrow on a compass. So it would either be moving forward slowly , or backwards slowly. However , that's thinking in a very linear way. Different directions could be totally not related to forward or backward , but possess a duality of its own.
Some things are just beyond comprehension.
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I have been thinking a lot lately about time; what it is, how it relates to space, etc. But one thing that I can't seem to come to a reasonable conclusion on is what happens when you move different directions in time. Everybody thinks of time only in terms of forewards and backwards. However it expands infinitly in all directions, including a direction that we cannot comprehend. So what happens when you move in one of these other directions?

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Time isn't a real measurement of anything.There is no back or forth or sideways.
Humans invented the concept of time,in order to somewhat organize our existence.

In reality,matter and energy do as they do,the amount of "time" that is occuring means nothing.We are right now in the past,present,future at the same time.

Does this make any sense to you?
 
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Time isn't a real measurement of anything.There is no back or forth or sideways.
Humans invented the concept of time,in order to somewhat organize our existence.

In reality,matter and energy do as they do,the amount of "time" that is occuring means nothing.We are right now in the past,present,future at the same time.

Does this make any sense to you?
Humans perceive time and conceptualize it, we didn't invent it. Matter and energy do as they do in periods. A period between this or that. That period is measurable and we use a word, time, to describe these measurements.
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I believe this concerns with "dimensions".

Take for example a fish -

Fish live in 2D (Two-dimensional). They only understand that forward and backwards exist. They don't know, nor can they contemplate that there is a such thing as straight up or straight down, and they also cannot "see" those dimensions. That's why if we stick our hand right on top of the water, they do not know it's there. We can literally enter their dimension without them knowing about it simply because they cannot perceive anything more complex than the dimension they live in. However, because we live in a 3D world, we are able to travel to 2D.

If we are able to move in a different direction, such as being able to perceive 4D (four-dimensions) being as we can only understand 3D, we would unlock a whole other understanding of the world around us. We would be able to see much more. Think of it like in the fish's terms. If it were able to understand straight up and straight down, side to side, it would see a whole new world around it and be able to see many more things. It's the same idea with us. There could be something around us at this very moment, in a fourth dimension, but we cannot see it, touch it, or smell it because we cannot understand how to just like the fish. A Fourth dimension could enter our dimension without us knowing about it, just like the fish theory.
 
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I believe this concerns with "dimensions".

Take for example a fish -

Fish live in 2D (Two-dimensional). They only understand that forward and backwards exist. They don't know, nor can they contemplate that there is a such thing as straight up or straight down, and they also cannot "see" those dimensions. That's why if we stick our hand right on top of the water, they do not know it's there. We can literally enter their dimension without them knowing about it simply because they cannot perceive anything more complex than the dimension they live in. However, because we live in a 3D world, we are able to travel to 2D.

If we are able to move in a different direction, such as being able to perceive 4D (four-dimensions) being as we can only understand 3D, we would unlock a whole other understanding of the world around us. We would be able to see much more. Think of it like in the fish's terms. If it were able to understand straight up and straight down, side to side, it would see a whole new world around it and be able to see many more things. It's the same idea with us. There could be something around us at this very moment, in a fourth dimension, but we cannot see it, touch it, or smell it because we cannot understand how to just like the fish. A Fourth dimension could enter our dimension without us knowing about it, just like the fish theory.
Yes indeed. Time being the fourth dimension is a concept I have familiarized myself with. In the same way that every point lies on a line, every line on a plane, and every plane in a space, every space must lie within a "time". Going forewards and backwards, each space is a different moment in time. Every time, I believe, is a seperate universe.

My current image of time is basically a massive space that engulfs all others. Thoughts?
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I believe this concerns with "dimensions".

Take for example a fish -

Fish live in 2D (Two-dimensional). They only understand that forward and backwards exist. They don't know, nor can they contemplate that there is a such thing as straight up or straight down, and they also cannot "see" those dimensions. That's why if we stick our hand right on top of the water, they do not know it's there. We can literally enter their dimension without them knowing about it simply because they cannot perceive anything more complex than the dimension they live in. However, because we live in a 3D world, we are able to travel to 2D.

If we are able to move in a different direction, such as being able to perceive 4D (four-dimensions) being as we can only understand 3D, we would unlock a whole other understanding of the world around us. We would be able to see much more. Think of it like in the fish's terms. If it were able to understand straight up and straight down, side to side, it would see a whole new world around it and be able to see many more things. It's the same idea with us. There could be something around us at this very moment, in a fourth dimension, but we cannot see it, touch it, or smell it because we cannot understand how to just like the fish. A Fourth dimension could enter our dimension without us knowing about it, just like the fish theory.
You stole this almost word for word from a YouTube video starring famed physicist Michio Kaku. It is a great idea but please give credit where it's due.
 
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I feel like I'm not moving but I am.
 
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