My Logical Big Bang Theory (sorry had to do it)

[jr22hockey]

Originally Posted by blank716

What if time is relative to the expansion and collapse of the universe?

Depends on how the space of the universe expands and contracts

[jr22hockey]

Originally Posted by blank716

What if time is relative to the expansion and collapse of the universe?

Depends on how the space of the universe expands and contracts

[Stoopid Toker]

this is a decent theory and its good that you were able to think about it on your own, but it is not original. others have posed the same theory, in much more precise, specific, and complete manor.

i dont really know who said it first or what the name of it is... but ive come across it a few times.

[Stoogemeister]

anything is logical in a world of no ultimate understanding

[notbakedenough]

Isn't that like the Big Crunch Theory?

[rvca]

Originally Posted by Tyro01

So the question constantly asked is where did everything come from. Well ladies and gents i have an idea, on just that. So you know gravity right constantly pulling things together. Well say eventually gravity pulled everything to a sub atomic point. All the mass of your universe smaller than an atom. Eventually all this energy and mass together causes a giant explosion, what we know as the big bang. This explosion causes the redistribution of mass and energy and creates a new universe. This universe then expands and goes through its normal universe life cycle before expansion stops and gravity pulls everything back together to a sub atomic point where it re-explodes and becomes a new universe. This has happened forever and there is/was/will has never started and will never stop, simply runs infinitely in all directions of time.

time is non-existant and only viable when thought of in days minutes and so on
how can we even phease infinite when we live on a day to day basis and also because of sleep patterns and in relation to planet revolutions around a star of light cycles light = time therfore without light there is no time.

how can time exist in infinite darkness ?

time goes in a circle but heres the thing. the circle expands and strethes into the infinite getting larger an larger which creates a longer and longer period. as long as time stays the same (size) like a small ball rolling on a circular track and the circular track gets longer and longer stretching into the infinite but the track width and ball size stay the same it will roll on forever into the infinite. (wow thanks primitive english language i can't even describe things that don't have a name or set definition i wonder how many words and defenitions describing thoughts feeling taste there really is. if we hear english we learn english. If we don't know of a reason or how an emotion is triggered then we can't use it or describe it now can we ?

there have to be some emotions that us humans can't comprpehend.

We've basically made inovations over the years improoving talking and we developed languages, can we inovate the way we touch, smell,taste,or hear ?

[blank716]

Originally Posted by Stoogemeister

anything is logical in a world of no ultimate understanding

ba-zing.

[brody15]

Originally Posted by Tyro01

So the question constantly asked is where did everything come from. Well ladies and gents i have an idea, on just that. So you know gravity right constantly pulling things together. Well say eventually gravity pulled everything to a sub atomic point. All the mass of your universe smaller than an atom. Eventually all this energy and mass together causes a giant explosion, what we know as the big bang. This explosion causes the redistribution of mass and energy and creates a new universe. This universe then expands and goes through its normal universe life cycle before expansion stops and gravity pulls everything back together to a sub atomic point where it re-explodes and becomes a new universe. This has happened forever and there is/was/will has never started and will never stop, simply runs infinitely in all directions of time.

So what's "everything" in the above sentence? Where did that[everything] come from?

[Tyro01]

Originally Posted by brody15

So what's "everything" in the above sentence? Where did that[everything] come from?

Everything is the universe before, it did not come from anything, but has existed forever, and will exist infinitely in both directions of time. As humans this is extremely hard to understand as our entire way of thinking is based around cause and effect and scientific method.

[Gooch_Goblin69]

Originally Posted by Tyro01

So the question constantly asked is where did everything come from. Well ladies and gents i have an idea, on just that. So you know gravity right constantly pulling things together. Well say eventually gravity pulled everything to a sub atomic point. All the mass of your universe smaller than an atom. Eventually all this energy and mass together causes a giant explosion, what we know as the big bang. This explosion causes the redistribution of mass and energy and creates a new universe. This universe then expands and goes through its normal universe life cycle before expansion stops and gravity pulls everything back together to a sub atomic point where it re-explodes and becomes a new universe. This has happened forever and there is/was/will has never started and will never stop, simply runs infinitely in all directions of time.

This theory has been proposed a million times.

[TenMac]

Originally Posted by Buddy Dink

Ahh... science...

Some people don't even think gravity is a "real force." Perhaps a force leaking from another universe. It doesn't act like any of the other three forces in our universe, and is actually the weakest.

Does anyone here know anything about the multiverse and the theories pertaining to it?

I haven't read up on theories about multiverses but from what I have gathered this is what I think about the multiverse theory. Supposing that gravity is a 'leaking' force, the black hole could essentially be a warp from a neighboring universe pulling objects. On the scale of the big crunch then it would mean there be a collapse of all the universe into one singularity. Universes are pulling one another on varying degrees and ultimately everything is just one big star. Not big, rather a cingularity of infinite density and energy. So in reverse, the big bang is the explosion of this cingularity point which all the universes originate from.

Time is non-existant before the big bang explosion occurs.
Time is trapped in that cingularity. It only begins when the point of infinite energy and density explodes and creates space, where matter begins to move increasingly, and rapidly into disorder as the space expands and expands.

But then where is the cingularity contained in? What is that space that holds it up? We're back where we started.

[brody15]

Originally Posted by Tyro01

Everything is the universe before, it did not come from anything, but has existed forever, and will exist infinitely in both directions of time. As humans this is extremely hard to understand as our entire way of thinking is based around cause and effect and scientific method.

Nature is full of patterns, and everything, everything we have witnessed so far has a beginning and an end. That is a pattern of nature, living things are born and they die, rocks, planets, stars all come from something, and deteriorate and "die" eventually. Life itself, time, requries, forces things to deteriorate over time, the universe itself is moving, and thus showing signs that it is moving from one point to another. Doesn't it defy the laws of nature that something could have no begining and end?

This, to me, is a positive argument for something supernatural that guides everything, something that can circumvent the laws of nature.

I am not stoned, and that is scary.

[Tyro01]

Originally Posted by brody15

Nature is full of patterns, and everything, everything we have witnessed so far has a beginning and an end. That is a pattern of nature, living things are born and they die, rocks, planets, stars all come from something, and deteriorate and "die" eventually. Life itself, time, requries, forces things to deteriorate over time, the universe itself is moving, and thus showing signs that it is moving from one point to another. Doesn't it defy the laws of nature that something could have no begining and end?

This, to me, is a positive argument for something supernatural that guides everything, something that can circumvent the laws of nature.

I am not stoned, and that is scary.

Energy or matter cannot be created or destroyed. Yes that rock may have a beginning and an end but there was no true beginning of that rock. And like the universe, even though it may be constantly changing forms, there is no true beginning or end, of the universe. Things may change, but never stop, nor start.

[Miklelottesen]

If you take a 9 volt dc charge and added a similar current to it's circuit, only the phase is reversed (+ becomes - and vice versa) the result is 0 volt (9-9=0). That means that "nothing" can be "made" from something, which logically makes it possible for something to be created from nothing. Look here for my previous post about this phenomena (I didn't wanna repost)

[D_420]

Originally Posted by Miklelottesen

If you take a 9 volt dc charge and added a similar current to it's circuit, only the phase is reversed (+ becomes - and vice versa) the result is 0 volt (9-9=0). That means that "nothing" can be "made" from something, which logically makes it possible for something to be created from nothing. Look here for my previous post about this phenomena (I didn't wanna repost)

Hmm so you're basically saying that opposites cancel each other out , and associating it with destruction of something into nothing , deducing that if something can create nothing , nothing can create something. Perhaps nothing created everything ? And someday everything will eventually create nothing ? How though , is something created from nothing ? If unlike elements create nothing , than like elements create something. And if nothing in essence is actually something - which we'd have to assume for this theory to work , we can use it as an example.
Nothing plus nothing equals something. Two like elements added (nothing). I think this would explain the existence of temporary particles , or virtual particles. It was found that even in a complete vacuum , there are tiny subatomic particles that temporarily appear for an extremely short time period and then instantaneously disappear. This could be nothing merging with nothing to create something ?
In the beginning , nothing was the equation and the Universe was the result ?