Banned from the Bible...

[CosmicSerpent]

Originally Posted by mrblonde77

I hope in 300 years people decide I magically disappeared into the sky too, that's badass.

But eventually, they'll end up debating whether you actually disappeared into the sky or if someone decided it 300 years later.

[blueend]

Originally Posted by Mr Skinner

You're right about the bible not teaching to burn people at the stake. But as for the crusades...how many alternatives to catolicism were there in christianity at that time?

As a Christian ecclesiastical term, Catholic—from the Greek adjective καθολικός, meaning "general" or "universal"<SUP class=reference id=cite_ref-0>[1]</SUP>—is described in the Oxford English Dictionary as follows:
<DL><DD>~Church, (originally) whole body of Christians; ~, belonging to or in accord with (a) this, (b) the church before separation into Greek or Eastern and Latin or Western, (c) the Latin Church after that separation, (d) the part of the Latin Church that remained under the Roman obedience after the Reformation, (e) any church (as the Anglican) claiming continuity with (b)."<SUP class=reference id=cite_ref-1>[2]</SUP> </DD></DL>Leaving aside the historical meanings indicated under (b) and (c) above, the Oxford English Dictionary thus associates present-day Catholicism with:
<DL><DD>(a) "the whole body of Christians". The actual extension of Catholicism in this sense varies with the different understandings of what it means to be a Christian. <DD>(d) "the part of the Latin Church that remained under the Roman obedience after the Reformation", i.e. the Roman Catholic Church. This definition of Catholicism should be expanded to cover the Eastern particular Churches that are in full communion with the Bishop of Rome, and that the Church in question sees as no less part of Catholicism than the Latin particular Church. <DD>(e) "any church (as the Anglican) claiming continuity with the church before separation into Greek or Eastern and Latin or Western". Churches that make this claim of continuity include not only those of the Anglican Communion, but, among others, the Roman Catholic Church, the Eastern Orthodox Church, Oriental Orthodoxy, the Assyrian Church of the East. The claim of continuity may be based on Apostolic Succession, especially in conjunction with adherence to the Nicene Creed. Some interpret Catholicism as adherence to the traditional beliefs that Protestant Reformers denied (see, for example, the Oxford Movement). </DD></DL>by wikipedia.

[OMFG Jaron]

Originally Posted by weedseed

did nobody ever wonder why they took them out? maybe they were removed because they didnt aid in teaching sanctification...

The issue is, who was King James to decide if they were necessary? Prior to the formation of an actual "bible," the books were random scrolls that were transcribed individually. It was King James who took the books of the Bible, chose which needed to be in "his" version and which did not, and that's how we have the canonical and non-canonical books of the Bible.

That's what is sketchy about the situation. If a cop chose bits and pieces of a police report to submit, putting in what he thought was necessary and excluding that which e thought was irrelevant, you could see how it might be skewed, correct? Therefore, the Bible is basically Christianity as King James saw fit.

Originally Posted by Shouse1018

People did those things, not religion. If someone shot you would you blame the Gun?

If the gun was a book that described the slaugter of homosexuals and pagans as justifiable homocide on the part of a perfect God, I would say the gun had something to do with it.

[Sam_Spade]

A wonderful example of how highly compartmentalized Christianity requires it's followers.

Also, the foundation for biblical errancy.

[rickblaine]

The following does not precisely relate to this thread, but it a big favorite of mine so I thought I'd share it anyway:

Laura Schlessinger has recently said that homosexuality is an abomination according to Leviticus 18:22 and cannot be condoned in any circumstance. The following is an open letter to Dr. Laura penned by a US resident:

Dear Dr. Laura:

Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God’s Law. I have learned a great deal from your show, and I try to share that knowledge with as many people as I can. When someone tries to defend the homosexual lifestyle, for example, I simply remind them that Leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to be an abomination. End of debate.

I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some of the specific laws and how to follow them.

• When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odor for the Lord (Lev. 1:9). The problem is my neighbors. They claim the odor is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?

• I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?

• I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual uncleanness (Lev. 15:19-24). The problem is, how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense.

• Lev. 25:44 states that I may indeed possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighboring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can’t I own Canadians?

• I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself?

• A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an abomination (Lev. 1:10), it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don’t agree. Can you settle this?

• Lev. 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle room here?

• Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev.19:27. How should they die?

• I know from Lev. 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?

• My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev. 19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? (Lev.24:10-16) Couldn't we just burn them to death at a private family affair like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev.20:14)

Please help. Thank you again for reminding us that God's word is eternal and unchanging.

Your devoted disciple and adoring fan

[heretikhashhead]

I didn't get a chance to see that show specifically but there are many books in the bible that were left out for the purpose of the church to remain powerful and keep people in check. they needed to lower the human aspect of jesus in order to keep the idea that he was "the son of god". how can the savior make the same dumb mistakes as us right. in the jerusalem bible(not king james) there is the book of wisdom as well that was omitted by the catholic church. It spoke of wisdom as an entity in the form of a female by calling it a her or a she it lessend the power of the male form and in those time the cock does the walk so to speak. so they just took it out.many of these removed books are the foundation of the agnaustic movent steming into things like rastafai and other secs that look at the bigger picture of christ rather than just his death and resurection. I myself am an athiest but i can't deny the true power that these words have on the world and maybe they should be more truthful about it so it won't cause such an uproar when someone speaks they're mind. only then will a christian truly be "christ-like" as the word suggests.

http://video.stumbleupon.com/#p=3nmdra94c6

I made a thread about this, but not many people looked at it. It really has some really good information about the Church, and things left out of the Bible, by someone who actually has credentials both in academia and the Vatican. if you care...

[McGiver727]

i have know fucking idea what you are all talking bout im wiggin man,

[605skunk]

history channel has some bullshit

[Abel1337]

Boy, you sure as hell do know a lot about the Bible. And no, I did not see the program.. I was at my girlfriend's house and she doesn't have cable grrrrr!!! I wish I could have seen it!

[Sir Breach]

Originally Posted by xXMelkorXx

The puritans murdered and enslaved countless Native Americans when they moved to North America. If they did not turn from their 'pagan' ways and devil worship, well..they shot them, hung them, and enslaved their children, raped and killed their wives and daughters.

The history of Christianity has been forged in blood. How then, can you say it is a religion of love and acceptance. Bah, who are you trying to fool.

I think the whole concept of forcing your lifestyle on others is more rooted in White European tradition than Christians... hell we still do it to this day (Mormons, Jehovah's Witnesses). We really liked to make people do stuff they didn't want to back when we were trying to get to that west coast.

[toastedganja]

Aww man Im too high to read the whole thing. Anyway, fuck teh bible, Its the story of an awesome man that lived 21 centuries ago.

[thegreenfairy]

i'm sure they were banned for diff reasons. now when laws are passed in congress - they make their votes for diff reasons. maybe a couple of people wanted to fool the public - who then convinced the others they were irrelevent/veered from the point (as if the bible has any definable "point")

[JustBlazeMI]

Originally Posted by toastedganja

Aww man Im too high to read the whole thing. Anyway, fuck teh bible, Its the story of an awesome man that lived 21 centuries ago.

Amen, there is no actual truth to the bible, it is simply a book of theories and stories that were passed down from generation to generation and put into a book that people believe is sacred and holy.

People don't realize that Christianity has set us back as humans nearly 2,000 years. It was the ultimate culprit of the Dark Ages. More people have died in the name of Christ in the last 2,000 years than any other reason.

Finally Christianity is dying, it will be replaced by Truth, Love, Logic, and Reasoning.

[bkadoctaj]

Originally Posted by JustBlazeMI

Amen, there is no actual truth to the bible, it is simply a book of theories and stories that were passed down from generation to generation and put into a book that people believe is sacred and holy.

People don't realize that Christianity has set us back as humans nearly 2,000 years. It was the ultimate culprit of the Dark Ages. More people have died in the name of Christ in the last 2,000 years than any other reason.

Finally Christianity is dying, it will be replaced by Truth, Love, Logic, and Reasoning.

I'm not sure it's really fair to blame the Bible itself for our troubles. Maybe the believers and the reactions of those prejudiced toward them?