Marajuana in Bible?

[IGotTheCottons]

Well, if you wan't to get technical, let's do that. Did Adam and Eve cook their veggies and fruits? Not if they wanted to live. Cooking fruits and vegetables robs them of almost all of their nutritional value. This would mean they would have to eat their fruits and veggies raw. Now, can anyone tell me what happens to weed when you eat it without cooking it? Absolutely nothing. THC becomes psychoactive by heat (about 250F), so unless it's cooked it's not psychoactive. Also, there's a difference between using something to survive (food), or for medecine, and abusing it to get stoned. The Bible is not against using things for medecinal purposes, and if you were to use weed for medecinal purposes, you don't have to heat it up in order to do so.

If you want to get even more technical, the Bible gave us new food standards for food sometime after the global flood (obviously after the animals had time to replenish the earth). And this involved cooking, but only cooking of the meat.

Now, let me beat you to the punch by saying there's nothing wrong with cooking your veggies. The Bible isn't against it. I was simply making a reference to the Garden of Eden to show that even had God given us cannabis for food, it wasn't cooked in Bible times, so it wouldn't have gotten them stoned even if they'd eaten them.

Also, keep in mind, most medecine is EATEN, and medecine isn't mentioned in the Genesis account. So this could very well mean that "for meat" could also include herbs and fruits that were used (or going to be used if ya wanna get technical) for medecinal purposes (seeing as how God knew they were going to fall, and thus knew there was going to be disease).

"I feel that this thread, without any doubt, proves the inconsistancies, hypocracy, and uncertainty of Christianity, in particular."

Well, yeah, if you don't want to have the patience to wait for someone who knows what they're talking about to respond. There were some technical difficulties, and I was having problems posting. They've been resolved, so now I'm back. And I am in no way inconsistant or uncertain regarding Christianity.

[Sensi Enthused]

The inconsistancies/uncertainties are not within personal opinion (of those such as yourself), but among the being of these opinions IN VARIATION. I have no doubt that your beliefs are consistant, as they are your own.

[JaneInMyBrain]

[quote]Originally posted by Mutant Monkey
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Originally posted by Reign
he's saying in life which would u rather be the rapist or the mugger in that alley way no one is ever just an observer

Bullshit !!!!
I think you will find that he is objecting to the criminilisation of people who do no harm to others and the fact that the criminal justice system is unbalanced.
For instance a guy selling ganja to his mates can get lock down for a year or so then the same judge gives a mugger or violent offender a probationary sentence.
That is why the whole system is totally screwed.

They now have this new thing where if you were ever convicted of possesing marijuana or ne other drug you will not be able to obtain ne grants of ne thing from the government for college. However a murderer still can?? That seems QUITE a bit wrong to me. Drugs are not such a bad thing definately not worse then murder. And if they wanna go to college maybe they wanna turn their life around. and they could give them a piss test or suttin.

[IGotTheCottons]

Originally posted by Sensi Enthused
The inconsistancies/uncertainties are not within personal opinion (of those such as yourself), but among the being of these opinions IN VARIATION. I have no doubt that your beliefs are consistant, as they are your own.

The Bible is not inconsistant at all. It actually fits perfectly together. Quite remarkable when you take into consideration that it was written by 40 people, over a couple thousand years, and over a span of 3 continents.

Nice try though.

[Mustard]

So I'm curious. You seem to view that the Bible has a stand against the use of marijuana, or any other intoxicating drug.

But what's your personal stand?

Do you smoke?

I think I remember you saying you did somewhere for medical purposes but I may be mistaken.

[IGotTheCottons]

I used to smoke. I've been clean since 1/9/04.

[thccrystals]

Originally posted by IGotTheCottons
Now, can anyone tell me what happens to weed when you eat it without cooking it? Absolutely nothing. THC becomes psychoactive by heat (about 250F), so unless it's cooked it's not psychoactive. Also, there's a difference between using something to survive (food), or for medecine, and abusing it to get stoned. The Bible is not against using things for medecinal purposes, and if you were to use weed for medecinal purposes, you don't have to heat it up in order to do so.

What do you mean you don't have to heat up weed for medicinal purposes? You said yourself it isn't psychoactive unless it's heated.

[IGotTheCottons]

It doesn't have to be psychoactive to work as a pain killer... at least as far as I know. If anyone can show me otherwise, I'd be glad to check it out.

[thccrystals]

Originally posted by IGotTheCottons
It doesn't have to be psychoactive to work as a pain killer... at least as far as I know. If anyone can show me otherwise, I'd be glad to check it out.

Just take my word for it, it has to be heated up first.

[IGotTheCottons]

But that still doesn't mean the Bible gives support for using weed to get stoned. I'll go out on a limb and say that maybe it was intended to be used for medicinal purposes (such as the opium poppy can be used to make pain killers), but it was never mean for abusing to get stoned. The Bible is very clear about keeping a sober mind.

[lavenderwinter0]

Originally Posted by IGotTheCottons

the tree being talked about in Ezekiel is referring to israel (it's prophetic). the burning bush is in Exodus. and no, christianity doesn't support marijuana.

i do have to disagree with whoever it was that says christianity doesn't support anything fun. i'm a christian and i know of pleanty of ways to have fun that don't require getting wasted. i'm sorry if you've forgotten how to enjoy yourself without the use of drugs.

EDIT: and the herbs talked about in Genesis do not include weed. weed isn't an herb.

Cannabis IS a herb, it is a flowering herb

[fearthebug]

Originally Posted by IGotTheCottons

It makes more sense to say 'ok, eat the trees bearing fruit, and the herbs bearing seed' than to say 'ok, you can eat the stalk of rhubarb, but not the leaves, carrots, cucumbers, potatoes, but not poison nightshade, strawberries, blueberries, pears, figs, but not poisonous mushrooms, and so on and so forth. Understand now? or do you need me to further explain the obvious?

a thought process like that is the reason for so many lawsuits going on today.

like the person who sued mcdonald's because their hot coffee was hot.

or the person who tried to iron their clothes while wearing them.

or the person who made toast in the bathtub.

"if it doesn't say not to, it's ok"....<- that's what i get from you. unfortunately, society has eliminated the chance of natural selection, so people with these though process continue to thrive and multiply