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Old 12-03-2008, 04:05 PM
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I've been getting into my sub-conscious lately... input on my mind-phucks??

I was at my friends house yesterday, when i overheard someone say "well we'll never know, its impossible to tap into our sub-conscious"

and thats when it hit me... i've been tapping into mine A LOT lately. I've been having deja vu moments as often as farts, and they often bring some kind of revalation by showing my something in my sub conscious... its crazy, i dont know how to explain it. I've had some kind of worm hole/quantum leap experience too, which if you go to page 2 or 3 you can probably find the thread i posted. Regardless, i've been tapping into my subconscious a lot, and its freaking me out, i dont know how/why it keeps happening, nor what it means. I had a deja vu moment that lead me to remember a dream i had, which led to me having a vision. the vision was of a real event at my friends house that i wasnt at or heard about, and i explained it and described it to a tee to my friend who confirmed it... then i realized by seeing that event, i watched a video with them that i had never seen in real life... when it played in real life and i realized i saw it in my vision/dream, thats when i was officially mind-phucked...

I dunno, lately, my minds just been buggin out, because so much crazy, abnormal, almost schizo-type stuff has been happening, and its starting to worry me. I've always had this arrogant sense that i know more than most people about the world and the universe, and just life in general, and those feelings are getting stronger, which also scares me... its a good thing i have friends that are on the same page as me, otherwise id legit think i was crazy... right now, i still do think im crazy, but i have no legitimacy to prove it... yet ... ugh, i think i may be schizotypal... i dno, i have some kind of mental.... (dis)ability; and i've been looking into every psychotic mental illness that exists, and i dont think i have any of them, just tidbits from some of em... i dunno, my mind is completely different then everyone elses, its very eccentric, yet i get along with and understand everyone... then all this 'all -knowing' leads to insane amounts of anxiety, because all this knowing just frustrates me... and then i need a k-pin to become "comfortably numb" and i hate doing that...

anyone have any input, advice, or similar experiences?
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Re: I've been getting into my sub-conscious lately... input on my mind-phucks??

I am very familiar with how you are feeling right now.. But it's a very touchy subject for me and I don't want to even attempt to answer it for you because I don't think I can do it justice.. But read this letter that someone sent to this guy who studies the Ascension process.. You may find it very interesting, and it relates a lot to what you are talking about. By the way, I don't think you will find any direct answers about what you are going through, it sounds like spiritual evolution to me.. Don't look outwards for whats happening inward, look inward

Heres the letter, it's long but I think you'll find it worth reading.


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Dear Michael...The place that exists outside of the space/time continuum is what we would call, in human language, a "higher realm." There is a difficulty with communication through words. Words are the least reliable form of communication. Thoughts are the next least reliable, because most people's thoughts are based on their past experience, not on what is happening right here, right now. Feelings are the language of the soul. If you want to know your truth about something, look to how you are feeling about it.

The so-called "higher realm" that exists outside of the space/time continuum can only be fully described by exploring your feelings about it -- and this is a singular experience. It cannot be done in plural. It is like joy. Try to describe "joy" to someone. It is almost impossible. How big is it? How wide is it? How long or short is it? How warm or cold is it? Sometimes joy feels warm all over. Sometimes it feels like cold tingles up and down your body. So how "warm" is joy? How cold is it? What size is it, what temperature?

You see, one cannot describe it in human physical terms. You have to feel it. And the feeling cannot be described. It is, quite literally, "indescribable joy." All this talk of you ascending to a higher realm is nothing more than a collection of words to clumsily describe a raising, or ascending, of consciousness. It is consciousness raising. It is when you move in consciousness to a new place, a place outside the physical limitations and experiences of your bodily reality.

This can be done at any time, and many masters have done it without moving their bodies at all. Most people think that "ascension" means that the body literally lifts off the earth and "ascends into heaven." That is one way you can do it, but it is far from the only way -- and it is the most difficult way, because it requires that you drag your physical body along with you.

Your body is yours, it is not You. The "you" that ascends is not your body, unless you choose to take your physical body with you -- but why would you do that? You have no need for your body at all. It is merely a tool through which you can create and achieve a greater and grander experience of Who You Really Are. Once you have achieved that experience, your body becomes unnecessary, pointless. Like any tool with which you are finished, you can put it down. You are not this tool. You have a body, but you are not the body that you have.

True masters are those who can leave their body at will. The part of them that is Who They Really Are simply exits the body, leaving it lying there, or sitting there, doing its own thing, taking care of itself through the ongoing operation of the perfect mechanism that is its biological system. The heart beats, the lungs expand and contract, blood circulates...the mechanism functions perfectly, working like a clock, or like a well-tuned automobile. You do not have to be in your car for it to keep running. You can step outside of your car and just let the motor run. The car does not need you to run. It runs by itself. But it does need you to steer it, to tell it where to go.

Your body is a vehicle, moving you through the world at the level of gross physicality in order to provide you with experiences that are only available to you at that level. These experiences create a context within which your mind can begin to hold the larger reality of your True Identity. Once you experience your True Identity, your body becomes virtually useless in terms of your own journey. You can get out of the car. You're there. You're arrived. Then you will begin to use your body as a vehicle through which you may carry others to a direct experience of who they really are. Suddenly your body has a use again! And it is the greatest use of all. It is the purpose for which it was invented.

In other words, once you achieve a certain level of awareness, you will use your life here on this earth to lead others to that place of awareness -- to carry others back home, back to a full knowing of their True Identity. You will wake other people up.

Soon, you will seek to do this for the Whole Humanity. Nothing else will matter. Nothing else will seem the least bit important, least of all the concerns of your own body, or its once-selfish, now-forgotten needs or satisfy-me-now indulgences. You will experience yourself needing nothing. You will find yourself yearning for nothing. Certainly nothing that only the physical realm can provide you.

At this point you will be "in this world, but not of it." And, while you will continue to remain with your body, and to enjoy it, you will enjoy it and use it in an entirely different way. You will use it to bring others pleasure. To bring others joy. To bring others peace and love and safety and security and wisdom and clarity and awareness and the experience of Oneness. You will use it to bring others Home.

Imagine having sex like this. Just imagine it.

I bring this up because sexual expression is one of the great joys of being physical. But you have not known true joy, I promise you, until you have had a sexual experience in which you use your body as I have described above. Then you will take what you have experienced and thread it through the fabric of your entire life. Sex will no longer be an experience limited to intercourse. It will become Synergistic Energy eXchange -- true SEX -- which is the exchange of the essence of Who We Are with each other in a way that brings all of us back to ourselves and to the knowing of our Oneness with all others and with all of Life.

During your stay here on earth you will "ascend into heaven" many times, your consciousness leaving your body frequently, during meditation, during dreams, even, eventually, in a fully waking state, as I have described here. Your daily life will contain many moments in which you move in and out of a state of higher consciousness, from which you will perform many wonders. I am in such a state right now as I perform the wonder of giving you this answer. This reply to you could not have emerged from me had I not "ascended" to the level of consciousness wherein this answer resides.

Do you understand?

When you expand your awareness of your True Identify you will exit your small self, your localized self, and move in consciousness to your Universal Self at will. Often will you do this. You will exit and return, leave and come back, ascend and descend, sometimes for extended periods, sometimes for the instant moment, moving between realms effortlessly. And when you do this, my wonderful friend, the kinds of questions you've asked me here will disappear.

Now you may say, that sounds wonderful! How can I get there? How can I get to that place of awareness? And the answer is astonishingly simple.

Take someone else there.

When you understand this, that will be all that your life will be about.
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Old 12-03-2008, 08:58 PM
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Re: I've been getting into my sub-conscious lately... input on my mind-phucks??

^^ That is a truley remarkable statement.
We should all think more like that.

Very cool find.
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Re: I've been getting into my sub-conscious lately... input on my mind-phucks??

It's quite possible that your kundalini is ascending but you just don't know it.

Are you having any of these symptoms?

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Burning hot or ice cold streams moving up the spine.

*
Perhaps a feeling of air bubbles or snake movement up through the body.

*
Pains in varying locations throughout the body.

*
Titillation of the genital area, spine, or head.

*
Tension or stiffness of neck, and headaches.

*
Feeling of overpreassure within the head.

*
Vibrations, unease, or cramps in legs and other parts of the body.

*
Fast pulse and increased metabolism.

*
Disturbance in the breathing- and/or heartfunction.

*
Sensitivity to sound, light, smell, and proximity of other people.

*
Orgasm sensations different places in the body, or total cosmic orgasms.

*
Mystical/religious experiences, revelations, and/or cosmic glimpses.

*
Parapsychological abilities. Light phenomena in or outside the body.

*
Parapsychological abilities. Light phenomena in or outside the body.

*
Problems with finding balance between strong sexual urges, and a wish to live in sublime purity.

*
Persistent anxiety or anxiety attacks, due to lack of understanding of what is going on.

*
Insomnia, manic high spirits or deep depression. Energy loss.

*
Impaired concentration and memory.

*
Total isolation due to inability to communicate inner experiences out.

*
Experiences of possession and poltergeist phenomena.


edit: here is another list with more symptoms... if you have these symptoms you could be well on your way to Oneness. Take this gift and run with it, it's what I am trying to acheive in life right now, but i'm nowhere near close

* Muscle twitches, cramps or spasms.

* Energy rushes or immense electricity circulating the body

* Itching, vibrating, prickling, tingling, stinging or crawling sensations

* Intense heat or cold

* Involuntary bodily movements (occur more often during meditation, rest or sleep): jerking, tremors, shaking; feeling an inner force pushing one into postures or moving one's body in unusual ways. (May be misdiagnosed as epilepsy, restless legs syndrome (RLS), or PLMD.)

* Alterations in eating and sleeping patterns

* Episodes of extreme hyperactivity or, conversely, overwhelming fatigue (some CFS victims are experiencing Kundalini awakening)

* Intensified or diminished sexual desires

* Headaches, pressures within the skull

* Racing heartbeat, pains in the chest

* Digestive system problems

* Numbness or pain in the limbs (particularly the left foot and leg)

* Pains and blockages anywhere; often in the back and neck (Many cases of FMS are Kundalini-related.)

* Emotional outbursts; rapid mood shifts; seemingly unprovoked or excessive episodes of grief, fear, rage, depression

* Spontaneous vocalizations (including laughing and weeping) -- are as unintentional and uncontrollable as hiccoughs

* Hearing an inner sound or sounds, classically described as a flute, drum, waterfall, birds singing, bees buzzing but which may also sound like roaring, whooshing, or thunderous noises or like ringing in the ears.

* Mental confusion; difficulty concentrating

* Altered states of consciousness: heightened awareness; spontaneous trance states; mystical experiences (if the individual's prior belief system is too threatened by these, they can lead to bouts of psychosis or self-grandiosity)

* Heat, strange activity, and/or blissful sensations in the head, particularly in the crown area.

* Ecstasy, bliss and intervals of tremendous joy, love, peace and compassion

* Psychic experiences: extrasensory perception; out-of-body experiences; pastlife memories; astral travel; direct awareness of auras and chakras; contact with spirit guides through inner voices, dreams or visions; healing powers

* Increased creativity: new interests in self-expression and spiritual communication through music, art, poetry, etc.

* Intensified understanding and sensitivity: insight into one's own essence; deeper understanding of spiritual truths; exquisite awareness of one's environment (including "vibes" from others)


* Enlightenment experiences: direct Knowing of a more expansive reality; transcendent awareness

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Re: I've been getting into my sub-conscious lately... input on my mind-phucks??

that was an amazing letter.
 
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Re: I've been getting into my sub-conscious lately... input on my mind-phucks??

When people are talking, they're usually talking about themselves, their fears and their relationships with people without even knowing it.
 
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Re: I've been getting into my sub-conscious lately... input on my mind-phucks??

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Originally Posted by sheitson View Post



*
Perhaps a feeling of air bubbles or snake movement up through the body.




*
Pains in varying locations throughout the body.



*
Tension or stiffness of neck, and headaches.




*
Feeling of overpreassure within the head.




*
Vibrations, unease, or cramps in legs and other parts of the body.




*
Fast pulse and increased metabolism.




*
Disturbance in the breathing- and/or heartfunction.




*
Sensitivity to sound, light, smell, and proximity of other people.




*
Mystical/religious experiences, revelations, and/or cosmic glimpses.





*
Parapsychological abilities. Light phenomena in or outside the body.




*
Problems with finding balance between strong sexual urges, and a wish to live in sublime purity.




*
Persistent anxiety or anxiety attacks, due to lack of understanding of what is going on.




*
Insomnia, manic high spirits or deep depression. Energy loss.




*
Impaired concentration and memory.




*
Total isolation due to inability to communicate inner experiences out.





* Muscle twitches, cramps or spasms.

* Energy rushes or immense electricity circulating the body

* Itching, vibrating, prickling, tingling, stinging or crawling sensations


* Involuntary bodily movements (occur more often during meditation, rest or sleep): jerking, tremors, shaking; feeling an inner force pushing one into postures or moving one's body in unusual ways. (May be misdiagnosed as epilepsy, restless legs syndrome (RLS), or PLMD.)

* Alterations in eating and sleeping patterns

* Episodes of extreme hyperactivity or, conversely, overwhelming fatigue (some CFS victims are experiencing Kundalini awakening)

* Intensified or diminished sexual desires

* Headaches, pressures within the skull

* Racing heartbeat, pains in the chest

* Numbness or pain in the limbs (particularly the left foot and leg)

* Pains and blockages anywhere; often in the back and neck (Many cases of FMS are Kundalini-related.)

* Emotional outbursts; rapid mood shifts; seemingly unprovoked or excessive episodes of grief, fear, rage, depression

* Hearing an inner sound or sounds, classically described as a flute, drum, waterfall, birds singing, bees buzzing but which may also sound like roaring, whooshing, or thunderous noises or like ringing in the ears.

* Mental confusion; difficulty concentrating

* Altered states of consciousness: heightened awareness; spontaneous trance states; mystical experiences (if the individual's prior belief system is too threatened by these, they can lead to bouts of psychosis or self-grandiosity)

* Heat, strange activity, and/or blissful sensations in the head, particularly in the crown area.

* Ecstasy, bliss and intervals of tremendous joy, love, peace and compassion

* Psychic experiences: extrasensory perception; out-of-body experiences; pastlife memories; astral travel; direct awareness of auras and chakras; contact with spirit guides through inner voices, dreams or visions; healing powers

* Increased creativity: new interests in self-expression and spiritual communication through music, art, poetry, etc.

* Intensified understanding and sensitivity: insight into one's own essence; deeper understanding of spiritual truths; exquisite awareness of one's environment (including "vibes" from others)

* Enlightenment experiences: direct Knowing of a more expansive reality; transcendent awareness
this is really, really trippy...i've only been having these symptoms that i left in the quote, and i've been wondering what they mean. i've just been thinking that i was going deeper into this hallucination-driven depression, that i was going crazy. i'm going to have to look further into kundalini explosions. do any of you think that i am on my way to oneness, should i keep taking the welbutrin SR i was prescribed as antidepressants?

oh, and OP (just to contribute and not to threadjack), i think your mind is just expanding too rapidly to know what is really happening. this is a good and bad thing.
 
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Re: I've been getting into my sub-conscious lately... input on my mind-phucks??

Quote:
Originally Posted by sheitson View Post
It's quite possible that your kundalini is ascending but you just don't know it.

Are you having any of these symptoms?


*
Burning hot or ice cold streams moving up the spine.



*
Perhaps a feeling of air bubbles or snake movement up through the body.




*
Pains in varying locations throughout the body.




*
Titillation of the genital area, spine, or head.




*
Tension or stiffness of neck, and headaches.




*
Feeling of overpreassure within the head.




*
Vibrations, unease, or cramps in legs and other parts of the body.




*
Fast pulse and increased metabolism.




*
Disturbance in the breathing- and/or heartfunction.




*
Sensitivity to sound, light, smell, and proximity of other people.




*
Orgasm sensations different places in the body, or total cosmic orgasms.




*
Mystical/religious experiences, revelations, and/or cosmic glimpses.




*
Parapsychological abilities. Light phenomena in or outside the body.



*

Parapsychological abilities. Light phenomena in or outside the body.




*
Problems with finding balance between strong sexual urges, and a wish to live in sublime purity.




*
Persistent anxiety or anxiety attacks, due to lack of understanding of what is going on.




*
Insomnia, manic high spirits or deep depression. Energy loss.




*
Impaired concentration and memory.




*
Total isolation due to inability to communicate inner experiences out.




*
Experiences of possession and poltergeist phenomena.



edit: here is another list with more symptoms... if you have these symptoms you could be well on your way to Oneness. Take this gift and run with it, it's what I am trying to acheive in life right now, but i'm nowhere near close

* Muscle twitches, cramps or spasms.

* Energy rushes or immense electricity circulating the body

* Itching, vibrating, prickling, tingling, stinging or crawling sensations

* Intense heat or cold

* Involuntary bodily movements (occur more often during meditation, rest or sleep): jerking, tremors, shaking; feeling an inner force pushing one into postures or moving one's body in unusual ways. (May be misdiagnosed as epilepsy, restless legs syndrome (RLS), or PLMD.)

* Alterations in eating and sleeping patterns

* Episodes of extreme hyperactivity or, conversely, overwhelming fatigue (some CFS victims are experiencing Kundalini awakening)

* Intensified or diminished sexual desires

* Headaches, pressures within the skull

* Racing heartbeat, pains in the chest

* Digestive system problems

* Numbness or pain in the limbs (particularly the left foot and leg)

* Pains and blockages anywhere; often in the back and neck (Many cases of FMS are Kundalini-related.)

* Emotional outbursts; rapid mood shifts; seemingly unprovoked or excessive episodes of grief, fear, rage, depression

* Spontaneous vocalizations (including laughing and weeping) -- are as unintentional and uncontrollable as hiccoughs

* Hearing an inner sound or sounds, classically described as a flute, drum, waterfall, birds singing, bees buzzing but which may also sound like roaring, whooshing, or thunderous noises or like ringing in the ears.

* Mental confusion; difficulty concentrating

* Altered states of consciousness: heightened awareness; spontaneous trance states; mystical experiences (if the individual's prior belief system is too threatened by these, they can lead to bouts of psychosis or self-grandiosity)

* Heat, strange activity, and/or blissful sensations in the head, particularly in the crown area.

* Ecstasy, bliss and intervals of tremendous joy, love, peace and compassion

* Psychic experiences: extrasensory perception; out-of-body experiences; pastlife memories; astral travel; direct awareness of auras and chakras; contact with spirit guides through inner voices, dreams or visions; healing powers

* Increased creativity: new interests in self-expression and spiritual communication through music, art, poetry, etc.

* Intensified understanding and sensitivity: insight into one's own essence; deeper understanding of spiritual truths; exquisite awareness of one's environment (including "vibes" from others)


* Enlightenment experiences: direct Knowing of a more expansive reality; transcendent awareness
i have a lot of these symptoms. I have such anxiety that it leads to IBS, which is muscle spasms that are so unbearable i feel like i knife is rippin through my intestines...

what do these symptoms indicate? cuz i have almost all of em
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this is really, really trippy...i've only been having these symptoms that i left in the quote, and i've been wondering what they mean. i've just been thinking that i was going deeper into this hallucination-driven depression, that i was going crazy. i'm going to have to look further into kundalini explosions. do any of you think that i am on my way to oneness, should i keep taking the welbutrin SR i was prescribed as antidepressants?

oh, and OP (just to contribute and not to threadjack), i think your mind is just expanding too rapidly to know what is really happening. this is a good and bad thing.
yea im on ssri's too, not sure if i should be... ive also been trying to figure out if im figuring more and more shit out, or if im just going crazy..... ???? whatever is going on, it feels very powerful,.... and right now its just frustrating and causing anxiety

[edit] I'd also like to add a little poem i just wrote that kinda runs through my mind right now... those of you who know me on here know that i express myself best through song or poem etc

Sometimes I feel like Jesus,
and Christ it scares me.
I want to let you all in on a secret
but I'm sure you won't understand me.

I'm articulate but no words will properly do.
I've got these feelings about all, and who,
is right, and who is wrong.
Have you ever heard the Walrus song?

Sometimes I just feel crazy
but I know thats not the case.
Could it be, that just maybe
I've transcended time and space?

If the world all thought like me,
well then I'm sure we'd all be free
living separate, but as one,
most only close their eyes to see

We're chasing after money
controlled by the force of need
I hate to sound like a self-righteous prick,
but you need to think more like me.
-NFloyd2357 (Copyright 12/4 2008) lol, for real though, don't steal, I like my work hehe
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Have you ever done acid? The things you describe are things that I experience either during an acid or MDMA trip (yes, rolling is trip-like)... although not the déjà vu part. I've had déjà vu before, yes, but relating it to the other things you do is a personal experience that I haven't yet shared with you.

The way I look at the sub-conscious these days is that it's a "lighter" you. It's not that you have a density in the same sense that matter has a density at an instant in time. No, what I mean is that your subconsciousness is more related to the essence of you that transcends moments/instants. It's the you that materializes like a rain droplet condenses from the cloud that it transports itself in. Every single human being has a unique life and therefore unique experiences. Yes, yes, we're all subjective... we don't even agree if we're all subjective for Heaven's sakes. But your unique experience is based on a certain principle of you that is interconnected with other principles that you might say you're related to. For example, when you talk about yourself and you say, "I'm pretty much a geek", well, you're identifying a parallel profile (geek) to your profile (you).

People often say that the body is a vessel of the spirit in such-and-such earthly realm or whatever. Well, a word is the same for the spirit of that word, or the principle of that word. Now, words are parallel to ideas by principle. Somewhere, in time and space, these ideas converge and manifest as one and the same. This sameness is an aspect, just like the varying proportions of difference that cloud the Oneness a lot of spiritual members on here refer to. Saying "Everything is one" is pretty vague. I mean, yes, you used the right words, but the right words don't necessarily parallel the right idea. If you recall, I made a thread awhile ago about whether the verb "to be" is active or passive. Well, to be is such a vague word that by talking about it we could pretty quickly reveal notions of ideas as shared by English speakers and also how they diverge. I daresay it is the vaguest phrase (word) in the English language and thus the closest to the "truth".

Point: we all have separate experience. When we connect ideas, we have no idea of how alone we are.


The word "mania" has "man" in it. Just saying.

EDIT: It's like, I can tell you we're connected and I call tell you we're separate. I can tell you both and you'll understand both. But if I tell you both of them together, what are you going to think? Personal experience. Your separation...
 
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\ive also been trying to figure out if im figuring more and more shit out, or if im just going crazy..... ???? whatever is going on, it feels very powerful,.... and right now its just frustrating and causing anxiety


i was diagnosed with depression with schizoid tendencies 3 years ago, and was on medication for a while.

its a very hard line to walk, what i'm about to say, so i'd ask you and anyone else to take everything i say with many grains of salt.

for me, such a diagnosis and the experience of such 'medicine' was very helpful. through such kind of societal insistence, i was able to experience exactly the type of 'cure' i knew was a lie. that doesnt' mean medication and such diagnoses are inherently lies; rather, the experience of attempting to live while undergoing these things was a lie. i mean to say, i wouldn't know what i can't stand to be without such an experience, and such an experience was for me extremely necessary.

on the other hand. the experience of medicine and societal pressures forcibly controling what i "should be thinking" wasn't just an example of how i shouldn't be in relationship to myself, but in its helplessness and failure, was an example of the possibilities of the ground i have. being "out of control" in that sense made me realize very precisely and in an exact manner how flimsy our notions of control are.

all i want to say is, be very careful. despite how infinitely wide the path to truthfulness is, on an individual basis it gets narrower and narrower. if you're willing to be honest with yourself, you'll trust the results of your honesty. but those results could very well be extremely painful as well as extremely joyous: remember that the path remains.
 
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i was diagnosed with depression with schizoid tendencies 3 years ago, and was on medication for a while.

its a very hard line to walk, what i'm about to say, so i'd ask you and anyone else to take everything i say with many grains of salt.

for me, such a diagnosis and the experience of such 'medicine' was very helpful. through such kind of societal insistence, i was able to experience exactly the type of 'cure' i knew was a lie. that doesnt' mean medication and such diagnoses are inherently lies; rather, the experience of attempting to live while undergoing these things was a lie. i mean to say, i wouldn't know what i can't stand to be without such an experience, and such an experience was for me extremely necessary.

on the other hand. the experience of medicine and societal pressures forcibly controling what i "should be thinking" wasn't just an example of how i shouldn't be in relationship to myself, but in its helplessness and failure, was an example of the possibilities of the ground i have. being "out of control" in that sense made me realize very precisely and in an exact manner how flimsy our notions of control are.

all i want to say is, be very careful. despite how infinitely wide the path to truthfulness is, on an individual basis it gets narrower and narrower. if you're willing to be honest with yourself, you'll trust the results of your honesty. but those results could very well be extremely painful as well as extremely joyous: remember that the path remains.
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Have you ever done acid? The things you describe are things that I experience either during an acid or MDMA trip (yes, rolling is trip-like)... although not the déjà vu part. I've had déjà vu before, yes, but relating it to the other things you do is a personal experience that I haven't yet shared with you.
I've done MDMA once, acid none, shrooms often, salvia barely, and DMT soon. I've found that the more i learn about myself from any of these drugs, the more i need to shut my mind off with a benzo... i hate doing it, but sometimes my brain just becomes too much for me to handle, it does toooo much thinking, and i think its had too many shattering revalations and realizations. My "transcendence" of time and space, indeed, happened on my last shroom trip.... but i know it was only initiated/aided by the shrooms. First of all, it wasnt much a strong trip cuz i've been doing em often, second, it was on the come down. Most of all, when i reached that moment, or realm, or whatever it was - it was all based off events that actually happened that i never witnessed or heard about, and somehow transposed directly into my dreams and subconscious... the shrooms deffinitely helped me tap into that; but from confirmation of many friends, i described to a tee an event i had never heard about or was at... and i even "watched" a video with them, that i later watched in this physical world for the first time... that was the initiation of my complete and utter mind fuck... my brain and body has felt different ever since
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I've done MDMA once, acid none, shrooms often, salvia barely, and DMT soon. I've found that the more i learn about myself from any of these drugs, the more i need to shut my mind off with a benzo... i hate doing it, but sometimes my brain just becomes too much for me to handle, it does toooo much thinking, and i think its had too many shattering revalations and realizations. My "transcendence" of time and space, indeed, happened on my last shroom trip.... but i know it was only initiated/aided by the shrooms. First of all, it wasnt much a strong trip cuz i've been doing em often, second, it was on the come down. Most of all, when i reached that moment, or realm, or whatever it was - it was all based off events that actually happened that i never witnessed or heard about, and somehow transposed directly into my dreams and subconscious... the shrooms deffinitely helped me tap into that; but from confirmation of many friends, i described to a tee an event i had never heard about or was at... and i even "watched" a video with them, that i later watched in this physical world for the first time... that was the initiation of my complete and utter mind fuck... my brain and body has felt different ever since
My guess is that you're describing perspective. I mean, you get a nice dose of perspective with marijuana, but it's different than the total juxtaposition of two worlds you get on the major hallucinogens. Weed's "alternate reality" is subtle enough that you can navigate it, and control your own access to it for the most part. Still, I think you'd be crazy to say weed can't mind-fuck you in ways similar to the hallucinogens you listed. It's powerful stuff, too.
 
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so much crazy, abnormal, almost schizo-type
similiar experiences. lots.

and yes... tis quite schizotypal, if one was to allow such lingo to form one's thoughts.


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