What the fuck is wrong with Christianity?

[Zylark]

Originally Posted by The happy Spore

Why just Christiaity? Why not what the fucks wrong with Islam? Or what the fuck is wrong with hindus?

Why is it always just Christians?

I've had three threads (I think) regarding Islam spread over some time, and two of them got closed rather fast. I treated Islam in those threads the same way I do christianity, but somehow that is not politically correct. It do not get better by many confusing critisism of Islam with racism.

Islam is apparantly a touchy subject, and the second one try to shed some light on the barbarism of how it is practiced and what the muslim agenda is, one can get branded as a rabid racist rather fast.

Most scurry around pretending Islam is not a problem, just another "benign" faith like moderate christianity pretends to be.

I agree by all means. We need more focus on other beliefs. Islam in particular, as that faith is a fascist ideology and the anathema to all that is western democracy, culture and values.

But as it is, most here are mired in the christian version of irrational beliefs. Which is why it is the most discussed.

Start a thread critical of Islam, and I will be there backing you up as good as I can.

[The happy Spore]

Originally Posted by Zylark

I've had a three threads regarding Islam spread over some time, and two of them got closed rather fast. I treated Islam in those threads the same way I do christianity, but somehow that is not politically correct. It do not get better by many confusing critisism of Islam with racism.

Islam is apparantly a touchy subject, and the second one try to shed some light on the barbarism of how it is practiced and what the muslim agenda is, one can get branded as a rabid racist rather fast.

Most scurry around pretending Islam is not a problem, just another "benign" faith like moderate christianity pretends to be.

I agree by all means. We need more focus on other beliefs. Islam in particular, as that faith is a fascist ideology and the anathema to all that is western democracy, culture and values.

But as it is, most here are mired in the christian version of irrational beliefs. Which is why it is the most discussed.

Start a thread critical of Islam, and I will be there backing you up as good as I can.

Yes your right, its a double standard but what you gonna do, we live in a politically corect world.

[L Rag]

Originally Posted by j0nes1n

i dont wanna sound sexist or anything, but men and women are NOT equal, equal implies we have the same abilities overall, but its simply not true, men are better at certain shit, and women have their specialties too, but its far from equal

Yeah, but we're arguing that they should be equal in the eyes of society and the law, not equal in physical and mental attributes which noone can do anything about.

[Reggin]

Originally Posted by Zylark

I've had three threads (I think) regarding Islam spread over some time, and two of them got closed rather fast. I treated Islam in those threads the same way I do christianity, but somehow that is not politically correct. It do not get better by many confusing critisism of Islam with racism.

Islam is apparantly a touchy subject, and the second one try to shed some light on the barbarism of how it is practiced and what the muslim agenda is, one can get branded as a rabid racist rather fast.

Most scurry around pretending Islam is not a problem, just another "benign" faith like moderate christianity pretends to be.

I agree by all means. We need more focus on other beliefs. Islam in particular, as that faith is a fascist ideology and the anathema to all that is western democracy, culture and values.

But as it is, most here are mired in the christian version of irrational beliefs. Which is why it is the most discussed.

Start a thread critical of Islam, and I will be there backing you up as good as I can.

Unfortunately, that's the way things have started working around here.

[MPower420]

Originally Posted by L Rag

Yeah, but we're arguing that they should be equal in the eyes of society and the law, not equal in physical and mental attributes which noone can do anything about.

yeah, thats what i was trying to say. i thought about that too. 9 times out of 10, physically we're not created equal, but in the eyes of "God" and society, we should be viewed as entirely equal but we're often not. that's what i was trying to say

as for starting a thread on Islam, i know i would, but i honestly don't know enough about it to hold a decent argument in any way. i can say that i think Islamic radicalism is wrong and fucked up on many levels, but i have no way of basing my argument other than just stating my opinion, which in turn would make me look like a jackass. maybe in a couple years i'll have learned enough to have a debate but until then i'll just sit back and listen. it's easier to have a talk over Christianity for me personally, because i grew up in a Christian household and it was always around me.

[bkadoctaj]

Originally Posted by Reggin

Unfortunately, that's the way things have started working around here.

Which way is that?

Surely not this Way...

[Cali Ounces]

I really have no idea what inspired people to perpetuate religions in the first place.

guess. .

like they

"ignorance is bliss"

[mrblonde77]

Originally Posted by MPower420

1 Timothy 2:11-14

11 A woman should learn in quietness and full submission.
12 I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent.
13 For Adam was formed first, then Eve.
14 And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner.


1 Timothy 2:11-14

34 Women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the Law says.



Deuteronomy 22:20-21
20 But if this thing be true, and the tokens of virginity be not found for the damsel:
21 Then they shall bring out the damsel to the door of her father's house, and the men of her city shall stone her with stones that she die: because she hath wrought folly in Israel, to play the whore in her father's house: so shalt thou put evil away from among you.

Read more on your own time... but why do people believe in a religion that teaches worthless shit like that. I won't bash Christians or Christianity, but that's just obsurd. I do understand that the book was written a couple thousand years ago, but seriously. Humans are humans. People are people. We are one. We are one race of human beings and we ALL deserve a right to live as we please. Fuck religion. Fuck politics. This world should be a peaceful place.

What do you mean? What's the problem with this? It's the word of God, DUH, so it's OK. How dare you question the Word of God!

+rep

[Miklelottesen]

Well, the bible was written by the so-called prophets, or people who believed what the prophets told them, anyway. To me, that's a bad foundation of society rules (which the bible basically was, back then). Men's natural thirst for power and, excuse me for saying it, fear of women would naturally lead to opression of women. And the bible might well have been passed from mouth to mouth through centuries, before beeing written down. The vatican might also have edited parts of the bible, in order to suit them - why do you think the vatican has had its secret libary for centuries, and the very few people who have been let in there, have been closely guarded to make sure they only read what they came for?

[InnerPeace]

Originally Posted by Cali Ounces

I really have no idea what inspired people to perpetuate religions in the first place.

guess. .

like they

"ignorance is bliss"

we are all ignorant to what caused life and what happens after life. Religion is a spark of hope for people. That is all.

[MPower420]

Originally Posted by InnerPeace

we are all ignorant to what caused life and what happens after life. Religion is a spark of hope for people. That is all.

i think it's also a way to bring people together by the masses, by using a set of simple core beliefs that almost everyone can relate to in one way or another. look at every war fought since the beginning of recorded history and you'll see religion plastered all over it in one way or another. it is a beacon of hope, but it's a way to turn the population into clueless drones that believe the same shit (or close to it). that's just my opinion though.

[L Rag]

Originally Posted by InnerPeace

we are all ignorant to what caused life and what happens after life. Religion is a spark of hope for people. That is all.

Oh yeah, the spark of hope for the suicide bombers aye... 7 virgins in heaven!!

[bkadoctaj]

Originally Posted by L Rag

Oh yeah, the spark of hope for the suicide bombers aye... 7 virgins in heaven!!

If you were a Muslim and you read that, do you think you might be a little bothered?

[MPower420]

Originally Posted by L Rag

Oh yeah, the spark of hope for the suicide bombers aye... 7 virgins in heaven!!

i thought they got like 46 or 47 virgins or something? i guess i see them saying that as the equivalent of telling a 5 year old boy to come over to your van in the park because you got some candy.

see the resemblance? its bullshit. like i stated in my thread about our realities ("Reality as we know it"), no one is ever right and we will never know the truth. what i mean by no one is right, there have been literally hundreds of different religions and beliefs over the past couple thousand years, and EVERY follower KNEW that they and their religion were RIGHT. we all cant be right. jesus is not the son of god. allah is not a prophet. and horus and set are just the moon and the sun. yes religion could be a good thing in the right hands by spreading faith, but it's still false faiths and false hopes. unless you can prove to me using the scientific method that a higher power does indeed exist, or that jesus was the son of god, i beg to differ.

religion is a propaganda spreading, war starting, armed forces gathering, money making scheme. period.

[L Rag]

Originally Posted by bkadoctaj

If you were a Muslim and you read that, do you think you might be a little bothered?

To be honest I don't care, that is NO FUCKING REASON to kill innocent people, that martyr shit is complete bullshit and I don't care who I offend, fuck suicide bombers.

Originally Posted by MPower420

i thought they got like 46 or 47 virgins or something? i guess i see them saying that as the equivalent of telling a 5 year old boy to come over to your van in the park because you got some candy.

see the resemblance? its bullshit. like i stated in my thread about our realities ("Reality as we know it"), no one is ever right and we will never know the truth. what i mean by no one is right, there have been literally hundreds of different religions and beliefs over the past couple thousand years, and EVERY follower KNEW that they and their religion were RIGHT. we all cant be right. jesus is not the son of god. allah is not a prophet. and horus and set are just the moon and the sun. yes religion could be a good thing in the right hands by spreading faith, but it's still false faiths and false hopes. unless you can prove to me using the scientific method that a higher power does indeed exist, or that jesus was the son of god, i beg to differ.

religion is a propaganda spreading, war starting, armed forces gathering, money making scheme. period.

qft