The Srimad-Bhagavad-Gita

[HighGrowMan]

I was thinking about the view of the world during ancient Europe, and how the patriarchy taught a very secure and rational philosophy, in order to mold "Western Society" yet the things that they could not explain, they tended to they tended to suppress...

Eventually, the majort world maps ended up coming out of Greece, from Alexanders expanded empire, as they built schools throughout the areas, and they taught a very propaganda style form of teaching, in order to enslave the countries that they envaded, without doing anything.

The Romans, with the rise of the Ceaser ended up doing what the Greeks were doing, except they had the iron swords to back it up. And their genious minds were trying to come up with how to increase efficiancy to protect themselves; because they lived in constant fear, by their poluted world views.

Like their world map was basically a circle around Egypt. That was what Alexander had seen, so that's all there was. Before Alexander the great, and the rise of the Ceasers, their had been spirituality through out all of the world, so people didn't really concern them selves to much with 'where they were on a map', they knew it in their hearts. And the celestial bodies in the skies had true meaning to them. They looked at the stars, and knew the seasons.

Anyways, I thought I'd create a thread on the Srmad-Bhagavad-Gita, because before India was conquored by the British, and had British 'western' schools installed India had remained very true to their traditions and teachings, although presumably not perfect, the Bhagavad-Gita is one of the books that is close to the original teachings of Ancient man.

You can find a lot of translations of the book at http://www.sacred-texts.com

[Liquidtruth]

Rational? Ancient Europe? Rational? Have we been reading the same history books? Because the last thing I would call Ancient Europe is rational. As for the things they could not explain, see the Bible for the answers they embraced.

Your view of ancient history seems to ignore the wars fought over borders people apparently did not know about, except for in their hearts...

[HighGrowMan]

The key of Solomon, is summed up in Ninth Chapter. The Way of Kingly Knowledge and the Kingly Secret.

'seeing the Self in all' is what really sums it up for me. Seeing a reflection of your self, in eternity, and that reflection is an Arch-Angel in Christian terms. It is interesting to think about, because you have much more learning in your eternal self; you know everything that has ever happened.

A glimpse of this knowledge is one thing, but to live by it is to be a King; regardless of your cirumstance, or situation, you command something more powerful.

4. All this world is pervaded by me in My unmanifested form: all beings exist in Me, but I do not dwell in them

11. Unaware of My higher state, as the great Lord of beings, fools disregard Me, dwelling in the human form. 11

12. Of vain hopes, of vain works, of vain knowledge, and senseless, they verily are possessed of the delusive nature of Râkshasas and Asuras. 12.

13. But the great-souled ones, O son
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of Prithâ, possessed of the Divine Prakriti, knowing Me to be the origin of beings, and immutable, worship Me with a single mind.

15. Others, too, sacrificing by the Yajna of knowledge (i.e., seeing the Self in all), worship Me the All-Formed, as one, as distinct, as manifold.

16. I am the Kratu, I the Yajna, I the Svadhâ, I the Aushadham, I the Mantra, I the Ajyam, I the fire, and I the oblation. 16

19. (As sun) I give heat: I withhold and send forth rain; I am immortality and also death; being and non-being am I, O Arjuna! 19

22. Persons who, meditating on Me as non-separate, worship Me in all beings, to them thus ever jealously engaged, I carry what they lack and preserve what they already have. 22

30. If even a very wicked person worships Me, with devotion to none else, he should be regarded as good, for he has rightly resolved. 30

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31. Soon does he become righteous, and attain eternal Peace, O son of Kunti boldly canst thou proclaim, that My devotee is never destroyed.

[Liquidtruth]

Should I start quoting the Lord of the Rings to show you what the real world is made of?

[HighGrowMan]

Originally Posted by Liquidtruth

Rational? Ancient Europe? Rational? Have we been reading the same history books? Because the last thing I would call Ancient Europe is rational. As for the things they could not explain, see the Bible for the answers they embraced.

Your view of ancient history seems to ignore the wars fought over borders people apparently did not know about, except for in their hearts...

If you don't prefer to think of it as rational, think about it in terms of left brain verses right brain thinking. Left brain is quite rational, and is very characteristic of Western Society.

As for the Bible, yes, it has stuck around, although Rome wasn't exactly the best people entrust that it remained unaltered.

[HighGrowMan]

Originally Posted by Liquidtruth

Should I start quoting the Lord of the Rings to show you what the real world is made of?

If you 'get it', then that'd be appropriate, but not in this thread.

I also like Dune, and Kung-Fu Panda.

Whatever makes your gears turn pal.

[Liquidtruth]

I am a center brain, perhaps that stops me from understanding what you're trying to say? Ancient Europe was not rational, nor was Ancient Greece, nor is modern-day-western society. Perhaps one day we can have a society that is rational? I certainly welcome such a drastic change from the "norm".

[HighGrowMan]

Originally Posted by Liquidtruth

I am a center brain, perhaps that stops me from understanding what you're trying to say? Ancient Europe was not rational, nor was Ancient Greece, nor is modern day western society. Perhaps one day we can have a society that is rational? I certainly welcome such a drastic change from the "norm".

It shouldn't stop you from understanding, they say being 'center brain' is 1 in 10,000, but it looks like we're going 2 - 2 in this thread.

ah... lol you don't like that I'm using the word rational, for western society. I am trying to say the rational that you don't know anything until you can prove it. The scientific method.

[Liquidtruth]

Hell, that would be a massive step forward in society. If you take a look at any Government you can clearly see they check their brain's at the door before making any decision.