pact with the devil

[negligent]

i watched this show on the ID channel earlier, and boy did it piss me the fuck off

the whole show was about how satanists are all cult members who commit human sacrifice, shit was biased as fuck, and they even called the church of satan (who dont even believe in god or satan) a cult

last time i checked the definition of a cult is a group with a leader that everyone follows blindly

and also last time i checked satanists are some of the most free thinking people there are

this group of dudes broke into this house n killed 4 people, didnt do any ritual shit, just stabbed em all to death, n since the dude had a satanic bible and grim pictures on his wall they labeled it a satanic ritual killing.

rituals involve a process, not a breaking/entering followed by a murder

man that show pissed me the fuck off, labelin us all as cult members who commit human sacrifice

maybe i'll make a show how all islamic people commit suicide bombings in the name of allah, i'm sure that'll go over just fine with the public

fucking christian fucks

sure theres satanist cults that do exist that kill people, but they dont follow actual satanism, they believe satan to be the way the bible portrays him, which is absolutely false, these people are just murderous, there not doing it in the name of satan, there doin it to act out there own sick fuckin fantasies

true satanists (not lavey satanists) believe that satan is the savor of humanity and is the reason we're not fucking robot slaves like adam and eve were working the fields for god until the serpent told em what a fuckin liar god was n that they wouldnt die if they ate from the tree of knowledge. and being in their robotic state with no free will of thinking conscious they obeyed the serpent just like they obeyed god.

so if satanists believe satan is the true creator of humans, why the fuck would we kill satans creations as a sacrifice to him, if u kill in the name of satan, i can garuntee satan is gonna fuck you in ur deranged twisted ass n make sure u end up in prison the rest of ur life

[Antacids]

God can save you son, the good book can do you some teachinn, it could. Why don't you check one of your local churches for a push in the right direction.

[negligent]

cuz i've read the bible and see god for what he really is

satan basically said to god "god, your an angry vengeful peice of fuckin shit, u need to step down so i can run this shit so these people can have true happiness and spirituality"

but of course, since "god" had a hell of alot more followers than satan, they threw him n the "demons" out n he created his own little place

i dont believe in some fairy magical heaven or a firey burning hell, i'm not even gonna tell u what i believe happens upon death other then all the christians are gonna feel like fools upon accepting god as their master and entering heaven, god loves a good slave who follows without question, which is why he n the other gods created humans to have no free will or thought, it was satan who coerced eve to eat from the tree of knowledge, n if i'm not mistaken, god told them they would DIE if they ate from it

god is a fucking deceptive manipulative liar right from the beginning of the bible, christians are just so brainwashed they cant read the bible with any comprehension whatsoever, as a matter of fact, most christians will NEVER read the bible, they think the preacher will tell them all there is to know. your preacher is leading you strait to HELL.. which is indeed heaven

have fun supplyin gods spaceship with free energy

n if i remember correctly, god left us with different race/language/religion to keep us at war with each other so we would be permanently distracted from attaining spirituality

you christians live like lavey satanists anyway, doin whatever the fuck you want as long as it pleases you and just expecting to be forgiven... and you will be

[amsterdamage]

Originally Posted by Antacids

God can save you son, the good book can do you some teachinn, it could. Why don't you check one of your local churches for a push in the right direction.

that's a joke right?


(please say yes)

[morphyx]

You should read Revelation 19-22; Satan is the deceiver and his fate is sealed.

[Perpetual Burn]

Originally Posted by negligent

i'm not even gonna tell u what i believe happens upon death

Please do. Or PM me if you must.

I thought you were more a classical satanist that worships himself (Satan,) not that there's anything wrong with that rather than believing Satan had anything to do with the God of Abraham.

I sometimes wonder if Christ is the work of an evil force, making life so simple and promising eternal life. It seems deceitful in contrast to logic... but of course it depends on how you interpret it. Especially regarding how God's "chosen people" think him to be a false prophet.


morphyx, what do you think of modern Jews and Old Testament theology?

[morphyx]

Originally Posted by Perpetual Burn

Please do. Or PM me if you must.

I thought you were more a classical satanist that worships himself (Satan,) not that there's anything wrong with that rather than believing Satan had anything to do with the God of Abraham.

I sometimes wonder if Christ is the work of an evil force, making life so simple and promising eternal life. It seems deceitful in contrast to logic... but of course it depends on how you interpret it. Especially regarding how God's "chosen people" think him to be a false prophet.


morphyx, what do you think of modern Jews and Old Testament theology?

God made a covenant that He will fulfill. The point was, it wasn't just for Abraham and Israel it was for all of mankind.

But it's a choice for mankind...it has to be, otherwise it's not love...it's forced. Satan would accuse God, "Mankind is hostage to God!! There is no choice but fear!". God IS love. True love requires freedom to love and a genuine opportunity to reject, otherwise it's not true love freely given. It's coercion.

Satan's story is, "God's the liar...I'm god". Nice switcheroo.

[bigzach88]

why blame the christians im sure it was a jewish man that produced this show your hating on ?

[Liquidtruth]

Originally Posted by morphyx

God made a covenant that He will fulfill. The point was, it wasn't just for Abraham and Israel it was for all of mankind.

But it's a choice for mankind...it has to be, otherwise it's not love...it's forced. Satan would accuse God, "Mankind is hostage to God!! There is no choice but fear!". God IS love. True love requires freedom to love and a genuine opportunity to reject, otherwise it's not true love freely given. It's coercion.

Satan's story is, "God's the liar...I'm god". Nice switcheroo.

lol... "I love you, but uh, you failed my little test so I am going to burn you in hell for the rest of eternity. Do not forget how much I love you!"

The things people believe.

[Floydian]

Originally Posted by morphyx

You should read Revelation 19-22; Satan is the deceiver and his fate is sealed.

All god following Worshippers seemed rather content to literally "Dine in hell" at the end of their battles.

Gotta be SOMETHING comfy about it.

Seriously though, I respect your believes Morphyx, but do you really think telling Neg to read scripture is going to do anything?

Don't go Jehova's Witness on us, man.

[Spade420]

*sigh* Neg, must you continue to piss people off and make them think even LESS of Satanists? honestly bro...

As far as I'm concerned, to each his own, but i definately gotta agree with Liquidtruth..if you actually READ the bible, word for word, all of it, and analyze it...it's full of contradictions and completely random bs that makes no sense whatsoever. Not bashing Christianity, every religion has its flaws, but...I think people need to do a little more research and learn more about other religions before they come on here and start bashing one and defending another

[morphyx]

Originally Posted by Liquidtruth

lol... "I love you, but uh, you failed my little test so I am going to burn you in hell for the rest of eternity. Do not forget how much I love you!"

The things people believe.

Well, burning and fire are most likely metaphorical of the the emotional and spiritual torment one will experience separated from God after dismissing the homing beacon and explaining away creation.

You don't fail a test, you choose not to participate in a clearly offered and widely advertised pardon program. God has clearly made Himself known as being the only source of life, light, love, and peace. The warning is equally clear that should you refuse to participate you'll be granted your choice and will exist in the absence of God's presence where death, darkness, hate, and unrest is the natural environment.

So, what was your excuse for non-participation again? Romans 1:20 is the answer to your objection.

[Liquidtruth]

Originally Posted by morphyx

Well, burning and fire are most likely metaphorical of the the emotional and spiritual torment one will experience separated from God after dismissing the homing beacon and explaining away creation.

I always said that, sadly, the Bible seems to paint a different picture.

Originally Posted by morphyx

You don't fail a test, you choose not to participate in a clearly offered and widely advertised pardon program. God has clearly made Himself known as being the only source of life, light, love, and peace. The warning is equally clear that should you refuse to participate you'll be granted your choice and will exist in the absence of God's presence where death, darkness, hate, and unrest is the natural environment.

He is lying, because actions speak louder than words, and his actions are those of a bloodthirsty tyrant.

Originally Posted by morphyx

So, what was your excuse for non-participation again? Romans 1:20 is the answer to your objection.

The vengeful god of the desert probably does not exist, even if he did, he is not worthy of worship, only scorn.

Also, since you are speaking in facts, please prove everything you are saying, or, insert words/phrases like "I believe this" or "I think that"...

[Zylark]

This entire satanism stuff is just teen-angst demonstrative opposition to the established, with value added shock effect. Calling oneself a satanist, and then demand to be taken serious, is about as smart as muslims killing in the name of the religion of *cough* peace *cough*.

It is a contradiction in terms.

Not believing in the bible, but yet calling ones philosophy after the main antagonist in the bible, is basically playing into the believers part of the ballpark. Or in other words, not entirely lucid.

There is nothing more behind so-called secular satanism IMHO than attention seeking by means of pissing off believers. It is self-defeating, seeing as not only believers, but most non-believers as well, won't take you serious.

It's like arguing against communism and calling oneself a Stalinist.

[Revolution]

Originally Posted by Liquidtruth

lol... "I love you, but uh, you failed my little test so I am going to burn you in hell for the rest of eternity. Do not forget how much I love you!"

The things people believe.

"Think about it. Religion has actually convinced people that there's an invisible man -- living in the sky -- who watches everything you do, every minute of every day. And the invisible man has a special list of ten things he does not want you to do. And if you do any of these ten things, he has a special place, full of fire and smoke and burning and torture and anguish, where he will send you to live and suffer and burn and choke and scream and cry forever and ever 'til the end of time!
But He loves you." - George Carlin


Of course the TV is going to show extreme cases of anything. It makes good TV.