pact with the devil

[morphyx]

Originally Posted by Liquidtruth

The vengeful god of the desert probably does not exist, even if he did, he is not worthy of worship, only scorn.

Also, since you are speaking in facts, please prove everything you are saying, or, insert words/phrases like "I believe this" or "I think that"...

"Probably" is risk not worth taking. You dismiss the proofs and I understand that as it's your choice...but you already know all that.

[bigzach88]

how many threads are on this site debating god or no god geeze guys

[mrblonde77]

Originally Posted by bigzach88

how many threads are on this site debating god or no god geeze guys

morphix is always pushing forward his arrogant ignorance and the things he says always merit correction

[Liquidtruth]

Originally Posted by morphyx

"Probably" is risk not worth taking. You dismiss the proofs and I understand that as it's your choice...but you already know all that.

Pascal's Wager is not a very good argument. By probably I mean 99.999999%, it is highly unlikely there would be a god such as the one described in the Bible (not to mention that it is supposed to be the word of this god, yet is filled with contradictions and immorality endorsed by this god. He also likes to promise a lot and deliver nothing. Praying to a milk jug produces the same results as paying to the desert god of Abraham as well.), and if there is such a god, I would not want to spend eternity with him. Heaven sounds like a boring place, where you spend eternity on your knees.

There is no proof man, just something one believes in and convinces them self of. I know, I was in the middle of it for years.

[seahag]

i have met the devil twice. or, i have conjured up the idea of the devil, although possibly fictional, i have met him. of course, i was only able to meet him through my connection to the natural world (i.e. mushrooms). the main thing for me is the devil is real. and i dont mean real as in matter. i mean his 'personality' per-say whether you believe he is fictional or non-fictional, he is straightforward, he knows who he is, and he allows everyone else to know who he is... he does not hide behind any books, and his intentions are well known. and you need not go through a pope, or a son of satan, or a pastor to meet him, he's satan. maybe, thats why i am able to connect with him through mushrooms. either way, fuck it, religion is such a bore....

snore fest........

[the roach]

Originally Posted by negligent

true satanists (not lavey satanists) believe that satan is the savor of humanity and is the reason we're not fucking robot slaves like adam and eve were working the fields for god until the serpent told em what a fuckin liar god was n that they wouldnt die if they ate from the tree of knowledge. and being in their robotic state with no free will of thinking conscious they obeyed the serpent just like they obeyed god.

so if satanists believe satan is the true creator of humans, why the fuck would we kill satans creations as a sacrifice to him, if u kill in the name of satan, i can garuntee satan is gonna fuck you in ur deranged twisted ass n make sure u end up in prison the rest of ur life

Thats a cool take on satanism and I never thought of it that way before, but still I think Satan is just as unlikely as any other god.

[pavlakos]

i usually tryto refrain from categorizing myself, but my views and beliefs are certainly "satanic". i am not really a satanist in the sense that i refuse to bow (metaphorically of course) to anyone, including a so called god. every being is equal.

note: the bible god was more or less made up entirely.

[datpiff]

yo hes 100% right,

im a full blooded catholic, i pray to god nd all that, but honestly teh satanic church doesnt believe in satan.

if any of you were interested enough to learn about the subject at hand instead of reading the name "satan" in it nd automatically thinking its bad, go to wikipedia and read about it. Its actually fucking interesting, they believe the 7 deadly sins are just normal characteristics of human nature which is 100% true. Im yet to meet a human who hasnt comitted or had one of these sins. and yeah they dont believe in god OR satan.

BUT marilyn manson is associated w/ them which makes them all a bunch of creepy bastards. PRAISE JESUS

[negligent]

Originally Posted by bigzach88

why blame the christians im sure it was a jewish man that produced this show your hating on ?

because if i said "fucking jewish fucks" that wouldnt go over too well with the people on here would it, i've learned the people on here of jewish decent cant take criticism too well so i gotta refrain from saying anything that sounds anti-semetic.. so i'll blame the people who blame the devil for everything, the jews (as in religous jews) are pretty much just arrogant n think there chosen so they go to heaven regardless, so what do they care about satan

edit: and i dont worship the "antagonist" in the bible, the god i "worship" (i dont even worship him, i just acknowledge his existence as being in my opinion the true creator of man) predates christianity by thousands of years, there are actually many gods in my religion, some higher ranking than others, n the way i see it, god lies to his creation from the get-go n says they'll die if they eat from the tree of knowledge, so what would lead u to believe ANYTHING god has to say about anything else in the bible

god said you'll die if you eat from a tree, but in reality u'll obtain great knowledge, so whose to say that god tells you satan is a horrible deceptive liar, when he very well could be the bringer of truth. i mean hey believe what you want to cuz the reality is no one knows for sure, but from my personal experience reading through the bible, god seems like a peice of shit to me, i mean if he loves us so much, y'd he wipe the entire fuckin earth out with a flood and only tell one person it was gonna happen, never gave anyone a chance to change or anything

edit: and i'm no longer a lavey satanist (church of satan) i converted over to spiritual satanism cuz it involves spiritual advancement, which is kinda what i've been needing for the longest time, being that lavey satanism is really just atheistic heidenism, the only reason lavey called it satanism is cuz its a reversal of the christian faith pretty much

[pavlakos]

yeah, wasnt it meant to be more of a mockery of christianity?

im sticking by there is no god except for the individual.

[IglooBuds]

I still have found no evidence to support/reject the idea of a God,
but the bottom line is:
People want to believe in something, people want to know what will happen to them when they die, people will do anything and believe anything weather its true or not. As far as I know, God never wrote a Bible, Koran, or any other Scripture. So why should I believe a book that is support to represent God, but is not written by a God? I believe that soon science shall show us the truth, perhaps there is a "higher power" or perhaps our bodies are made up of small micromagnets that were put together at the beginning of the universe, for now, I don't know,
but I still search and search and search.

[bkadoctaj]

Originally Posted by Liquidtruth

lol... "I love you, but uh, you failed my little test so I am going to burn you in hell for the rest of eternity. Do not forget how much I love you!"

The things people believe.

Quite the literalist focus you have there, don't you?

[Floydian]

Morphyx actually got banned?

Wow.

[GolgiApparatus]

Originally Posted by bigzach88

why blame the christians im sure it was a jewish man that produced this show your hating on ?

Not entirely true.
The jewish religion dosnt give "hell" or "satan" any focus at all.

There is a guy discussed named "sah tahn" (the same spelling but pronounced differently) who is the gaurdian of the underworld but not the "devil" in a christian sence.

Therefore the jewish dude wouldnt give 2 shits if some dude was supporting satan because its not exactly against our religion like it is to christianity.

Theory debunked.

[pavlakos]

plus hardcore jews who know kaballah well, and the more ancient forbidden mysticisms know the truth. SA TA NA