My theory on a Supreme Being and the three Pre-Abrahmic religions.

[Stylez1877]

Okay, first I will start of saying that I personally am not extremely religious. This is obvious because I do not follow 'one' religion, radically or not. Rather I studied religion and came to my own conclusions, rather than sheepishly following what was set down in the writing of human beings.

What religion the faithful believe is strongly dictated by the region of the world in which they came to being, so how can one religion claim you will not attain everlasting life just because your parents brought you up in a different religion?

Okay, now on to my theory. The three Abrahamic (all stemmed from Abraham and his tribes/peoples) Christianity : Judaism : Islam
They are one in the same. Some of their beliefs differ, but their monotheism mandate reigns supreme throughout all of their mandates. None of the three religion accepts one another. None of the three religions "gets along". Many radical Islamics try to convert others by force. None of this makes sense.
Why?

THEY ALL WORSHIP THE SAME - EXACT - SUPREME BEING!!!
YAHWEH - GOD - ALLAH. THEY ARE THE SAME BEING! The human-made beliefs are different. But are these differences enough to often hate or war one another, when you follow the same god??? Also one of their big differences;

Prophets - Christianity : Jesus Christ. He was considered to be a rebel, a radical from Galilei by the Jewish people. He followed many of the Jewish ways but often put his own twist on them. For many Jewish beliefs, there is a Christian redactment of them. For example : Pesach. Passover. The people of Judaism said "Do this for the remembrance of our escape from Egypt." Jesus, on the other hand, says "Do this for the remembrance of me."

The 10 commandments were spoken to Moses by God and written by Moses, as he led the people out of Egypt under Judaism. These same 10 commandments are a heavy part of Christianity.
Here is something many do NOT know.

There are 18 commandments. Moses ascended Mt. Saini TWICE.The first time, upon his return, the Jewish people were worshiping a false idol and he smashed the tablets. His second ascent is recorded in Exodus chapter 34. Here we see NEW commandments, JUDAISM-SPECIFIC commandments. God said "Thou shalt not leave leftovers from passover overnight"
"Do not boil a kid (baby goat/sheep) in it's mothers milk"
Among others - these are Israelite-Oriented commandments, left out by Christianity. Don't believe me?? Check Exodus chapter 34!!!
The Jewish people believe their prophet has yet to come.
Islam - Mohammad. Unlike Jesus, he is not considered the son of god. He is but a man, a mortal man.

A little background on Mecca - It was a huge place where all of the three religions gathered. (Islam was not Islam yet but rather many seperate Arab tribes.) Why did they gather?? They all believed the Stone of Abraham, located in the Ka'Ba, in the center of Mecca, was given to Abraham by god himself. The SAME god they all worshipped.

Mohammad, after making a name for himself in Mecca (a religious hub, among other things) through trade and marriage, feels empty inside. He is missing his spirituality, he does not feel besouled. He walks, alone, out into the desert. Many times he leaves his wife, Khadija, for weeks at a time to descend upon the vast outreaches of the Desert. Once during his perigrination, he hears a voice utter the words "Recite". He returns home to his wife and tells her this, and she concedes that he must be the chosen, that he must go back out to the desert.
Upon his return to the desert, who is it who descends upon him??

THE MESSENGER ANGEL GABRIEL. This is stated in the Qu-Ran!

The same one who spoke the the sheperds of Christianity??

YES!!!

The things Gabriel spoke to Muhammad are written as the Suras and eventually recorded in the Qu-Ran.

There is more, but I will keep this to a point and ask : Why, if we all worship the same god, must be constantly be at strife with one another???
By the way do not think of Islam as a religion of conversion by force, that is not what it is all about. In the Qu-Ran it states "Those who harm the innocent are DOOMED!!!" I don't know how terrorist think they will attain everlasting life, they are mistaken. The true meaning of Jihad is also about surrendering to Allah as Muhammad did, NOT about warfare but rather the struggle to give yourself to GOD.

[feevers]

There is more, but I will keep this to a point and ask : Why, if we all worship the same god, must be constantly be at strife with one another???

Because religion was turned into a tool to keep the people ignorant, xenophobic, and hateful towards one another, mainly so the people could never unite and rebel against those who control them? Im not sure, but I do know that these "holy books" are nothing more then mistranslated half-versions of fairy tales written long before our time. I choose to base my "religion" on meditation, and becoming at peace with myself and others. Nothing more, because that's all there really is.

[limbick]

there were still only 10 commandments on the stones.. moses did indeed go back up mount sinai after he broke the first set of stones. after moses asked if God could forgive those heathens (my words ) for worshipping false idols and take them as his chosen people, God said he'd make a covenant with them. they would get the promised land in exchange for obeying the other laws he gave to moses..

anyway, that is neither here nor there, cause it's all symantics!

interesting thoughts you've got my friend.

if one were to believe the story of adam and eve (which is also something all three of the afore mentioned religions believe), perhaps we never really returned to worshipping God, and we've been bowing unknowingly to the evil one all along?

then again, the bible (and other religious books) have had thousands of years to evolve and be shaped and pruned by the views of those translating or otherwise dispersing it to the people (why was it decided that only 4 apostles' writings should be gospel?)...

too bad people can't see that getting away from religion, seeking spirituality, and respecting what others believe is the only path to actually living the way the "prophets" taught us..

to me religion is nothing more than the vehicle by which to push doctrine, which is made of things that have not yet happened.

my two cents

[Liquidtruth]

Originally Posted by limbick

(why was it decided that only 4 apostles' writings should be gospel?)...

The apostles never wrote anything. The gospel writer's are unknown.

[thegreenfairy]

find the eternal in yourself.

you can't trust a religion itself because it's a large organization

the larger the organization - the greater it's inherit power

power always corrupts

look at what started the great religions - think about the peoples daily lives in that place - and what it would have meant to them - and then form your own conclusions

[pavlakos]

all three stemmed from more pagan, rosicrucian(satanic?) sects. the three you mentioned were created (including the bible) to keep control of the people, for a greater agenda.

occult knowledge was wiped out (inquisitions) and books were burned, to keep the masses out of tune with the energies of Earth and themeselves.

thats my 2 cents, no bashing please.

[thegreenfairy]

the occult knowledge wasn't successfully wiped out

[pavlakos]

not successfully now that we have better information and communication technologies.

that knowledge has remained with the select few, over the centuries, and only now is available to those with a will to find it and learn.

[Stylez1877]

Originally Posted by thegreenfairy

find the eternal in yourself.

you can't trust a religion itself because it's a large organization

the larger the organization - the greater it's inherit power

power always corrupts

look at what started the great religions - think about the peoples daily lives in that place - and what it would have meant to them - and then form your own conclusions

Is it, then, always a bad thing to control the masses?
What other than law would stay ones hand in the slaughtering of many if not for religious morals and rules?
Attaining enlightment/immortality in most religions comes at the cost of doing good for others.
I can't say I agree how all religious power is used, but I can say without them life wouldn't particularly be better.

[tcooper1]

Originally Posted by pavlakos

all three stemmed from more pagan, rosicrucian(satanic?) sects. the three you mentioned were created (including the bible) to keep control of the people, for a greater agenda.

occult knowledge was wiped out (inquisitions) and books were burned, to keep the masses out of tune with the energies of Earth and themeselves.

thats my 2 cents, no bashing please.

Is pegan satanic?I dont think so, but dont know for sure.Isn't pegan and wicca sort-a the same? And I dont think all the books were burn either....Just asking not bashing.
have a great day/night and be safe

[billigreen]

Originally Posted by Liquidtruth

The apostles never wrote anything. The gospel writer's are unknown.

ha.. what about mathue, mark, luke, and jon???

[pavlakos]

Originally Posted by tcooper1

Is pegan satanic?I dont think so, but dont know for sure.Isn't pegan and wicca sort-a the same? And I dont think all the books were burn either....Just asking not bashing.
have a great day/night and be safe

if you look at history 'satanism' is neo paganism, satan, enki, same shit. many myths are essentially the same with some differences, beliefs too. the chakras are quite a universal idea.
the upside down pentagram and the goat in ancient greece both symbolized health and well being and a balance of male/female(+/-), and they still do. satan doesnt advocate evil.





notice the one hand up and one down?