Is life experience knowledge?

[bkadoctaj]

And if it is, does that mean that if everyone truly had infinity to live that everyone would someday have the same knowledge?

And since that's not really possible to believe or even picture, isn't it clear that life (age, years lived, etc.) cannot really be knowledge?

And if that's true, isn't it a bit of a logical conundrum?

[flyhalf87]

Originally Posted by bkadoctaj

And if it is, does that mean that if everyone truly had infinity to live that everyone would someday have the same knowledge?

And since that's not really possible to believe or even picture, isn't it clear that life (age, years lived, etc.) cannot really be knowledge?

And if that's true, isn't it a bit of a logical conundrum?

experience is knowledge, but just because someone is older doesnt mean theyve had experiences to make them knowledgable. look at someone whos 60 but learned all of their lessons from movies or from books- they havent had real experiences, theyve just observed other people experiences and think it automatically applies to their own lives. thats not necessarily knowledge.

i think if everyone lived forever, people would be just as stupid as they are now because ignorance is bliss, especially if you think you know everything

[pavlakos]

i think we are already all knowing. in the sense that our souls are all knowing. i believe in reincarnation, so we have experienced everything possible, but everything has happened in one instant since time doesnt really exist...so we know everything, we just dont know it.

[flyhalf87]

Originally Posted by pavlakos

i think we are already all knowing. in the sense that our souls are all knowing. i believe in reincarnation, so we have experienced everything possible, but everything has happened in one instant since time doesnt really exist...so we know everything, we just dont know it.

i dont really believe the same things as you, but i do appreciate that we definitely know more than we think we do, were just taught that we must be wrong because of all the things we learn ( ) in textbooks

[bkadoctaj]

Originally Posted by flyhalf87

experience is knowledge, but just because someone is older doesnt mean theyve had experiences to make them knowledgable. look at someone whos 60 but learned all of their lessons from movies or from books- they havent had real experiences, theyve just observed other people experiences and think it automatically applies to their own lives. thats not necessarily knowledge.

i think if everyone lived forever, people would be just as stupid as they are now because ignorance is bliss, especially if you think you know everything

What about knowledge forgotten? If you experience something but don't recall it ever, do you really know it? Is knowledge really practice? The way we live? Since it's hard to believe that everyone could really ever (in any way) come to the same, infinite knowledge... how could we say there's anything really objective or true? This is why I think life experience is not knowledge.

[kbd]

i don't think experience is necessarily knowledge. i believe it's more what you take (or learn) from an experience that will transpire into knowledge.

[kinetic being]

Everyone? I thought there was only one

[bkadoctaj]

Originally Posted by kinetic being

Everyone? I thought there was only one

Yeah, perhaps you believe all people will have the knowledge of your thought.

And is knowledge just having knowledge? Or would it be true to say that having knowledge but not acting on it (knowingly acting against it) is not really knowing at all?

[blackdahlia515]

It would never even out if we all lived forever, because there would always be people who are ahead of other people, and things of the sort. Wouldn't they stay in their place as far as rankings of intellect?

On a side note: I think knowledge is exponential, not linear, so certain peoples' thinking patterns and what not would allow them to "leap frog" above and around other people.

[flyhalf87]

Originally Posted by bkadoctaj

What about knowledge forgotten? If you experience something but don't recall it ever, do you really know it? Is knowledge really practice? The way we live? Since it's hard to believe that everyone could really ever (in any way) come to the same, infinite knowledge... how could we say there's anything really objective or true? This is why I think life experience is not knowledge.

i should rephrase, experience leads to knowledge. how do you think we "know" the things that we do, people documented their experiences and learned from them. the problem comes from people reading about those experiences, and thinking it automatically applies to their lives without trying it out first or doing more in depth research on whatever subject it may be. the other problem comes from people going through their experiences and thinking "wow that was lucky" instead of learning from it.

[bkadoctaj]

Originally Posted by blackdahlia515

It would never even out if we all lived forever, because there would always be people who are ahead of other people, and things of the sort. Wouldn't they stay in their place as far as rankings of intellect?

On a side note: I think knowledge is exponential, not linear, so certain peoples' thinking patterns and what not would allow them to "leap frog" above and around other people.

That's why I'm giving you infinity. If you must, you can define infinity as being enough time for everyone to have a learning curve exceeding a growing amount of things to know.

[Bluntzilla420]

Experience prepares you better to attain knowledge, but does not guarantee such notions. Look, there is an enormous mental transperancy between adult and child brainpower. This "infinity" idea is not even remotely possible, creating a huge hypathetical diversion that is just a huge waste of time at the end!

[blackdahlia515]

Originally Posted by bkadoctaj

That's why I'm giving you infinity. If you must, you can define infinity as being enough time for everyone to have a learning curve exceeding a growing amount of things to know.

I guess that's possible, but there's no way everybody would be at the same speed or whatever, you know?

[bkadoctaj]

Originally Posted by blackdahlia515

I guess that's possible, but there's no way everybody would be at the same speed or whatever, you know?

And if infinity meant you could get the knowledge, imagine the infinity it would take to get all the individual infinite periods necessary to converge.

[CosmicSerpent]

The way I have always thought about it is that life experience is a tool to gain knowledge. Some people use the tool to the best of their ability, and others completely ignore it. It is possible to gain knowledge without life experience, but the level of knowledge you are able to gain is limited without it for most people. To me, there is a component of knowledge that is missing if you don't have some sort of experience to go along with it.... I don't know what to call this component, maybe understanding, or observation, or comprehension. None of those words seem quite right, but hopefully you know what I'm getting at. You can read and study an entire lifetime about the world, but until you have experienced your life to the fullest, none of it fits together exactly right in the big picture. It's hard for me to explain this accurately, but here's an example...

Imagine there's a young man working on his doctorate in some advanced science, or philosophy or something. He's been in school his entire life, always been at the top of the class, has tuition virtually paid off in scholarships, but he has never had a real job or traveled very far. Now imagine there's an old man, in retirement, he's never had more than a high school education, but he's worked hard, he's met people, he's been places. The old man has a better understanding of how the world works, even though the student has more technical knowledge.

The movie "Good Will Hunting" comes to mind.