Death is a lie

[chivo]

What does it mean to exist? Is it a state of mind, something abstract, is it an idea, a simple thought? Or is it a state of being, is it physical? When thinking of existence, I was taught that there were two places, two existences. Existence and Non-existence. A life and a death. One is either alive or simply not. It was always presented as two; existence is a duality. I learned from Catholicism that you are born, you live and die. Afterward in death, you were taken somewhere, to a divine or not, to a different form of existence, not having life but still being. No longer alive, yet still existing in a different form. To better illustrate, think of the existence of a God. Religion clearly explains that he exists: not here, but somewhere in a distant realm, somewhere not able to be reached physically but spiritually, metaphysically, in an abstract form. Agree to his existence and by default to the idea that we are perhaps eternal, not in the sense that associates any connotation or mortal doctrined thought, but in the idea that we never really cease to exist. To acknowledge existence is to also acknowledge non-existence. When we pass we continue, yet in a different form. The idea then, that life is a dream and death is a lie, becomes true. E. Galeano, in an anthology of Latin American myth, passes this on to us: “[The man and the woman] will never stop being born, because death is a lie.”

[seahag]

iron lung wrote a song about this:

Love is the supreme farce - what a fucking joke
Life is a lurching seething entity engulfing all
Sex is a repulsive bi-product of boredom
Life is a farce - sex is a farce - love is a farce
A repulsive farce

[Shauneh]

Will the process of death and decay carry on forever? Are epilogues, endings and deaths an inescapable occurence?

Consider that while addressing the chronological continuance of "life", "existing" and "being". If death does in fact carry on forever, than how too will life? Will life eventually conquer death and the concept of anything being "done" be a thing of the past, or, will life itself eventually "die" and nothing will cease to exist?

Or, as many see it, life and death can only exist in a relationship, two sides of the same coin. There will always be life because there will always be death, and vice-versa.

Or, are life and death one in the same? Is the only thing that seperates and distinguishes life from death mere human awareness? Scientists and the like see "death" as the end of a biological being's "life". With that said, perhaps life and death, either or together, are downscaled by human intelligence because of these bodies we are cased and imprisoned in.

If you had the choice to be born again as a normal human baby, or have your present existance be meshed in with all that is in these universes, which would you choose? Or, as mere humans, are our lives already apart of everything in the universes, and we are unaware?

Consider the way humans label such huge concepts. Humans have barely began to understand life, and don't have a clue about anything in death, yet; we title such heavy concepts with simple words, "life" and "death".

By naming something, by giving it a title, a description, you make it finite.

Perhaps, just maybe, there is no such thing as "life" or "death", and "you" are just apart of something much more; or much less. Or perhaps "you" aren't apart of anything...

[Joker__Smoker]

Its a farce

[chivo]

As rational beings, we hold a collective understanding of life. I came to my conclusion above using what was taught to me, using the knowledge that I have encountered. Now, basing my answer on the same understanding, “Will the process of death and decay carry on forever?”

At the level of the individual, it seems to me, it will not last forever.
I cannot remember a past life, nor can I foresee a future one. I know that my life, this specific episode of existence, is not forever so I assume non-existence is not forever as well. Since a single episode of life must end, why should death not be equal to this?

Under the greater perspective, however, death and decay may last forever. Just as life may last forever.Perhaps in cycles. I have not ceased to exist yet, so I’m sure my answer is inaccurate. Then again, my entire argument was based on knowledge from men who have not yet passed onto the great unknown either.

[TiCkEr]

Are we really human living a spiritual experience or spirit living a human one?

I believe when we die that we remain totally conscious. Fear of death keeps humanity enslaved and will continue to do so. One who is not afraid of death will be free. Without going too far out in left field, I feel that our spirit/consciousness or whatever you choose to call it has way more potential than we know. In the 3D form of our bodies, much of our potential is held back but for reason. I'd like to believe we chose to incarnate as humans and forget our origin in order to grow and evolve, eventually returning to the Source or God.

This is the theory I'm going with this week anyways.. hehe.

TiCkEr