A Call to Intellectuals

[Peacefullbuddah]

Originally Posted by MoreBudzForMe

. I should have been dead, in jail, or beaten severly a number of times, but some how I excapt with out a scratch.

So for all of the people that didn't escape without a scratch .... did god forget about them ?

[mrblonde77]

Originally Posted by the roach

Ah what the hell, I'll go with it anyway

Hehe, fixed it sorry about that. I wrote this up in bed hopped up on morphine :\ Just dislocated my kneecap for the second time.

[MoreBudzForMe]

I don't know. Maybe he did. Maybe he didn't.

[bkadoctaj]

Originally Posted by MoreBudzForMe

I think the biggest problem is that a lot of people do not understand that underneath all the details and differing qualities of science and religion, they are the same. A means to understand the nature of this "reality" we found ourselves in. Once we can see that religion is ancient science with a smaller vocabulary, we can be more understanding of Sciences lil brother Religion. But, should we throw religion out the door because it is a lesser understanding? No, because it is not nessisarily a "lesser" understanding, but one of a diffrent symbolisim. Science, in its more recent frontiers, is actually now saying that eastern mystisim has had it right for millenia.

And if we would stop and read what Jesus actually had to say to us, then we would see that a lot of what he says is counter intuative to what we always thought christianity to be, and makes alot of sense in the eyes of quantum mechanics.

You see it all has to do with how the abstact quantizes into physical "reality", Jesus spoke of seeds (thoughts, abstract) and the garden (mind) and how to more easily make you dreams manifest into the real world by haveing your heart in line with the father. Faith is believing in something without seeing it, so we have faith in gravity because we see its workings, I hafe faith in the Lord, because I have seen his workings in my life.

The Lord (law in hebrew) is with the birds, in the air they fly. He is with the fish, in the water they swim. He is with men, in the earth they till. If your heart is with him, he will be kind and gentle to you, but when you hide yourself away, you are like a fish without water, flopping about, despratly trying to find oxygen. I should have been dead, in jail, or beaten severly a number of times, but some how I excapt with out a scratch. He is the way, and is here always.

Just remember the Lord is not a "christian", nither am I, he loves all things he helped create, He just has more fun with us, I mean can a fish dance?

Is Science a Religion?
http://forum.grasscity.com/spiritual...ience-religion

[Mr.GoodStuff]

^ Science is all that has been proven true and will be proven true... The study of all knowledge is the study of all power in a round-about way.

Religion just puts will into the equation because of wishful thinking instead of objective proof.

Science will say that it is not a religion because science does not choose what it believes in. It only knows what it knows because of testing and conclutions draw on those facts. Science is only a reflection of the universe, it does not choose what to believe. It only knows because belief is not necessarry- there is proof.

I feel that both sides have something to offer the other that is real and tangeable. It's just die-hards will not take the plunge that is necessarry to see the other side, and that much is kinda sad.

To me there is a Creator, and science is a representation of His raw ability as well as potential. To me, science is God- because science is all-knowledge, therefore all-power, and therefore God Almighty.

Will may or may not exist at that level. But I do know that at the core of it all, is an energy field of unlimited possiblities and contains all power in the system. And that my friends, sounds very much like God to me.

Will-based or not, it's got all-power.

[bkadoctaj]

Originally Posted by Mr.GoodStuff

Will-based or not, it's got all-power.

Bingo. That's what we can all agree on, at least. Or can we?

[Key2gb]

Originally Posted by Mr.GoodStuff

^ Science is all that has been proven true and will be proven true... The study of all knowledge is the study of all power in a round-about way.

Religion just puts will into the equation because of wishful thinking instead of objective proof.

Science will say that it is not a religion because science does not choose what it believes in. It only knows what it knows because of testing and conclutions draw on those facts. Science is only a reflection of the universe, it does not choose what to believe. It only knows because belief is not necessarry- there is proof.

I feel that both sides have something to offer the other that is real and tangeable. It's just die-hards will not take the plunge that is necessarry to see the other side, and that much is kinda sad.

To me there is a Creator, and science is a representation of His raw ability as well as potential. To me, science is God- because science is all-knowledge, therefore all-power, and therefore God Almighty.

Will may or may not exist at that level. But I do know that at the core of it all, is an energy field of unlimited possiblities and contains all power in the system. And that my friends, sounds very much like God to me.

Will-based or not, it's got all-power.

I agree...I see the universe and it's workings (Science) as a reflection of however it came to be....

"God created us in his image"...a metaphor, and a rather strong one...we are "God"...anything you create represents a part of you

We are a part of this universe that Science is continually trying to explain, and Physics is the language of the Universe (or God)...God is not in religion, God is not Yahweh. God is existence...the unbound imagination.

[morphyx]

Even when a missionary doesn't show up in the thread? The conversation turns to God and religion. It's human nature's curiosity of and interest in their origin. You guys were all debating it before I ever arrived and will be long after I'm gone.

[bkadoctaj]

Originally Posted by morphyx

Even when a missionary doesn't show up in the thread? The conversation turns to God and religion. It's human nature's curiosity of and interest in their origin. You guys were all debating it before I ever arrived and will be long after I'm gone.

That is for sure. Did you get my Private Message by the way?

[BubbleFunker]

No sooner do I leave and it all goes back to the god crap again. Tsk, tsk.
I thought we were staying off that subject. And by discussing it you've invited the trolls back in too.
Buggery and Damnation!

[Key2gb]

Originally Posted by morphyx

Even when a missionary doesn't show up in the thread? The conversation turns to God and religion. It's human nature's curiosity of and interest in their origin. You guys were all debating it before I ever arrived and will be long after I'm gone.

I was personally referring to a God very unlike the Christian God

[mellowdramatic]

I feel like it's time to stop arguing as well. I'm very angry about religious issues for my own personal reasons, but I don't like it when I find myself being hostile toward people just because of what they believe. I have, however, in the case of my parents, proven my ability to never bring it up. They know what I believe and I know what they believe, and I leave them alone (wish I could say the same for them). I think it's too easy to hate a person because of what they believe, when really the only thing you don't like about them is their belief.

[scoobydooby67]

Originally Posted by morphyx

Even when a missionary doesn't show up in the thread? The conversation turns to God and religion. It's human nature's curiosity of and interest in their origin. You guys were all debating it before I ever arrived and will be long after I'm gone.

WHAT THE FUCK DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH YOU?

It's human nature's curiosity of and interest in their origin.

thats not even a fucking sentence. learn how to fucking write.

this was a thread designed for intellectuals.

you have proved yourself in 6 threads to not be an intellectual in any sense of the word.

so why the fuck are you here?

i read your myspace (i find it pretty fucking pathetic that someone over 40 has a fucking myspace page, but i digress)

so youre a missionary huh?

here's an excerpt from my post from this thread: http://forum.grasscity.com/real-life...quit-weed.html

i hate everything you represent.

i worked as a missionary for 8 years.

thank "god" i changed my ways. i now "volunteer", which is the same fucking thing,

but instead of shoving my fucking dogma down the throats of people i try to help,

who have no choice but to be guilted into listening to me since i just built their house, brought them food, etc.,

i just show them love and acceptance. and i hope thats what they show me.

i love missionaries about as much as i love cancer.

missionary.

what the fuck is that.

you have a mission?

to spread the "word"?

maybe these people you visit are quite fucking content with the religion they have already.

but no, you fucking christians cant tolerate that.

in order for them to receive missionary help, they have to forget and denounce their own faiths,

because while we christians are in town,

we're gonna be talking about jesus and how he died for your sins, you ignorant people who are doomed unless we tell you about our lord.

WHAT IF THEY WERE ALREADY FUCKING HAPPY WITH THE RELIGION THEY HAD?

this is why i quit the ministry and denounced chrisitanity.

why dont you try volunteering overseas and see if you can keep your goddamn mouth shut about the lord.

i bet you cant, youre just bursting to tell everyone about jesus and think that they will benefit from what you have to say.

/end rant.

[mrblonde77]

Scooby I completely agree, but he's never going to listen. He's not worth the time, energy, or your opinion. Just shhhh and stop quoting him. The smartest of us here all realize he's a bible thumping prick. Just ignore him from now on, eventually (hopefully) he'll GTFO. Join me!

[blackdahlia515]

Originally Posted by JesusC

God thread #2 about ending god threads.

Lmao. I was skimming through the thread titles of S&P and like 7 or 8 out of every 10 were something about a religion and/or how its correct or incorrect and all this shit. As I was reading over all the thread titles and I came across each one i was just thinking "shut up, another one, shut up" etc.