Christianity has been debunked once and for all

[liteovershadows]

Originally Posted by Razoride

That's a question I would love to ask the people that knock on my door at 8 a.m. talking about the word of god. Next time they come to the door I think I will.

listen up guys. The people that knock on your door at 8 am have their own book about what God is. The Bible has been misinterpreted even by Christians. Christ didn't leave us a religion, but a relationship with Him. sorry for those people that annoy you bro.. because they annoy us Christians also. When one understands the true message of Christ, one will not have the intent Law.. but instead the intent of Grace. Religion has brainwashed the masses. You all are not "fighting" or arguing against Christ, but against religion. I was in the same place. Religion offers nothing but its Do's and Don'ts. Religion offers law. But that is not what Christ gave us.

[xxxWOLFExxx]

Originally Posted by liteovershadows

listen up guys. The people that knock on your door at 8 am have their own book about what God is. The Bible has been misinterpreted even by Christians. Christ didn't leave us a religion, but a relationship with Him. sorry for those people that annoy you bro.. because they annoy us Christians also. When one understands the true message of Christ, one will not have the intent Law.. but instead the intent of Grace. Religion has brainwashed the masses. You all are not "fighting" or arguing against Christ, but against religion. I was in the same place. Religion offers nothing but its Do's and Don'ts. Religion offers law. But that is not what Christ gave us.

I respect you bro. i would classify myself as athiest however i try to not involve myself in religion. If all christians thought the way you do then this world would be tolerable. So many people i know try to throw their religion in my face. not just the guys the stop by at 8 am but most people i know. +rep for not being a dick like the rest

[rhinoman26]

Personally in my church, when we share Christ, it is purely to have a relationship with him. Sure it would be great for people to come to our church but our goal is to just give people the chance to embrace him and have a place in paradise. This is the goal of many Protestant churches nowadays I think its great that we are finally getting back to what jesus actually commanded us to do! Keep in mind though that when Christians have a personal relationship with Christ they recognize his lordship and so follow his commands and teachings, this includes dos and donts...

Anything taught or 'enforced' by a church that isn't in the bible I think is wrong and ultimately a sin because they are making many hate the church all for personal gain.

Haha I can't tell if I've been ranting or not but Its all true to me

[Dank0ne]

Here's a good Atheist vs Creationist debate, starts getting good around part 4.

YouTube - Rational Response Debate with Kirk...

[Zylark]

Originally Posted by Dank0ne

Here's a good Atheist vs Creationist debate, starts getting good around part 4.
YouTube - Rational Response Debate with Kirk Cameron pt.1

And how are actors and authors without an evolutionary biology background in any way qualified to talk about the veracity of evolution?

Besides, evolution is not, as you present it, a matter of atheism versus silly literal bilblical (or koranic or even hindu) belief.

It is a matter of reality versus fantasy. It is a matter of provable facts. Not opinion, but science.

Your (presumably) christian literalism fails to notice one little fact, most christians have greater faith in evolution than in any literal interpretation of Genesis. Indeed, any literat interpretation of just about anything in the bible.

Most prefer to adjust their belief to reality. Not the other way around.

Why these christians do not quite simply give up their superstitious belief, is quite a mystery to me. Perhaps it is the eternal life thing that keeps them professing to the dominant local superstition.

But ofcourse, in some parts of the world, various rather regressive denominations of any religion, are still living in the dark-ages. Not wanting to see the obvious, they deny it to their flock by means of indoctrination and not least to those they control by any other means of power they can wield.

Which is why you see creationists just itching to get onto school-boards to pervert science education. To put pressure on legaslative authority to interfere with scientific understanding and the education of it.

What you don't see them doing, is valid research into their hypothesis. To chase down evidense that will stand up to scrutiny.

There is a reason why creationsists do not do this, and it is pretty obvious.

[Dank0ne]

Originally Posted by Zylark

And how are actors and authors without an evolutionary biology background in any way qualified to talk about the veracity of evolution?

Besides, evolution is not, as you present it, a matter of atheism versus silly literal bilblical (or koranic or even hindu) belief.

It is a matter of reality versus fantasy. It is a matter of provable facts. Not opinion, but science.

Your (presumably) christian literalism fails to notice one little fact, most christians have greater faith in evolution than in any literal interpretation of Genesis. Indeed, any literat interpretation of just about anything in the bible.

Most prefer to adjust their belief to reality. Not the other way around.

Why these christians do not quite simply give up their superstitious belief, is quite a mystery to me. Perhaps it is the eternal life thing that keeps them professing to the dominant local superstition.

But ofcourse, in some parts of the world, various rather regressive denominations of any religion, are still living in the dark-ages. Not wanting to see the obvious, they deny it to their flock by means of indoctrination and not least to those they control by any other means of power they can wield.

Which is why you see creationists just itching to get onto school-boards to pervert science education. To put pressure on legaslative authority to interfere with scientific understanding and the education of it.

What you don't see them doing, is valid research into their hypothesis. To chase down evidense that will stand up to scrutiny.

There is a reason why creationsists do not do this, and it is pretty obvious.

dont get me wrong, I'm agnostic.... just thought the vid was interesting to watch, also funny how the creationists failed completely to change my beliefs

[Zylark]

Originally Posted by Dank0ne

dont get me wrong, I'm agnostic.... just thought the vid was interesting to watch, also funny how the creationists failed completely to change my beliefs

Sorry for jumping to my guns when replying, it's just that when I see creationist propaganda, I am easily, erm, let us say excited.

[Dank0ne]

Originally Posted by Zylark

Sorry for jumping to my guns when replying, it's just that when I see creationist propaganda, I am easily, erm, let us say excited.

s'all good man

[liteovershadows]

it sounds like you guys have more of a problem with religion, rather than God. your disgust for God seems to stem from personal experiences that have left you calloused(?)

Who do you say Christ is?

[garrison68]

Any belief system that obliges you to kneel down in front of the crotch of a man in a dress, and open your mouth while sticking your tongue out, is fucking sick.

[liteovershadows]

Originally Posted by garrison68

Any belief system that obliges you to kneel down in front of the crotch of a man in a dress, and open your mouth while sticking your tongue out, is fucking sick.

yep, thats catholicism for ya...and paganism..which is catholicism. islam is way crazier than any other religion in my opinion

[citizen abuse]

Originally Posted by liteovershadows

it sounds like you guys have more of a problem with religion, rather than God. your disgust for God seems to stem from personal experiences that have left you calloused(?)

Who do you say Christ is?

No. Our disgust is with there not being a single scintilla of evidence to support the claims. And secondly, don't God and religion go hand in hand?

[maxrule]

Originally Posted by Zylark

Your (presumably) christian literalism fails to notice one little fact, most christians have greater faith in evolution than in any literal interpretation of Genesis. Indeed, any literat interpretation of just about anything in the bible.

That is due to decades of hoaxes and pro-Darwinian propaganda and not due to the overwhelming evidence supporting evolution.




Thus, Evolution was organized into a religion in the late 19th century to accomplish this evil. In 1859, Darwin published The Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection, and in 1871, The Descent of Man, and Selection in Relation to Sex. It was also in the 19th century that America witnessed the beginnings of Mormonism, the Jehovah's Witnesses, Seventh-Day Adventism, and a host of other false religions, all sharing the common denominator of Freemasonry! Please read, Religions: The Occult Connection. It is no coincidence that Evolution, numerous false religions, Westcott and Hort's corrupting of the Bible, Karl Marx's Communist Manifesto, Catholicism, and a host of other evils all became major influences upon America in the the late 19th century. Of course, occult Freemason has been the major demonic influence upon America, controlling our federal government since its inception in 1776. These are all Satanic influences, intended to lure mankind into self-made bondage, achieving a Global Police State, and ultimately leading men into Hellfire. Remember, Satan is the god of this world (2nd Corinthians 4:4).

Creation Science was the prevailing belief system before the rise of geology in the late 18th Century. The early European scientists, from Galileo, to Copernicus, to Newton, all believed in a literal interpretation of the Bible's account of Creation. Historians have made many estimates for the date of creation, including 3761, 3928, 4004, and 4456 BCE. The most generally accepted date was established by Bishop Ussher: 4004-OCT-22 BCE.

With the rise of the scientific intelligencia, and the woeful apostasy of modern times, the ridiculous THEORIES of the origin of the universe have been used by Satan as a Trojan Horse for many other sins.


Evolution, Communism, and the NWO!

[citizen abuse]

Originally Posted by maxrule

That is due to decades of hoaxes and pro-Darwinian propaganda and not due to the overwhelming evidence supporting evolution.

Propaganda? What do you call this:

Originally Posted by maxrule

[I]Thus, Evolution was organized into a religion in the late 19th century to accomplish this evil. In 1859, Darwin published The Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection, and in 1871, The Descent of Man, and Selection in Relation to Sex. It was also in the 19th century that America witnessed the beginnings of Mormonism, the Jehovah's Witnesses, Seventh-Day Adventism, and a host of other false religions, all sharing the common denominator of Freemasonry! Please read, Religions: The Occult Connection. It is no coincidence that Evolution, numerous false religions, Westcott and Hort's corrupting of the Bible, Karl Marx's Communist Manifesto, Catholicism, and a host of other evils all became major influences upon America in the the late 19th century. Of course, occult Freemason has been the major demonic influence upon America, controlling our federal government since its inception in 1776. These are all Satanic influences, intended to lure mankind into self-made bondage, achieving a Global Police State, and ultimately leading men into Hellfire. Remember, Satan is the god of this world (2nd Corinthians 4:4).

Creation Science was the prevailing belief system before the rise of geology in the late 18th Century. The early European scientists, from Galileo, to Copernicus, to Newton, all believed in a literal interpretation of the Bible's account of Creation. Historians have made many estimates for the date of creation, including 3761, 3928, 4004, and 4456 BCE. The most generally accepted date was established by Bishop Ussher: 4004-OCT-22 BCE.

With the rise of the scientific intelligencia, and the woeful apostasy of modern times, the ridiculous THEORIES of the origin of the universe have been used by Satan as a Trojan Horse for many other sins.

You don't think that the real reason why so many people accept evolution is because there's geological and fossil evidence to support it, do you?

[brymatjen420]

Originally Posted by negligent

ok, first off lemme say that i'm a satanist, meaning i dont believe in a christian god or anything like that, but whoever wrote this is a total jackass.

he makes alota really stupid arguments, thinking that he's "proving" that christianity is "fake"

first off, if jesus really is the son of god, his purpose on earth wasnt to teach people the universe's secret, or that the world is round and that the moon causes tides n shit.. the point of christ was to teach people morals and how to be a good human being, not that there were continents and thousands of other people in the world.. jesus was not a god, but a meer man, and was not all knowing

he argues why would jesus come at such a time when people were stupid.. could it be because it was when humans were starting to establish a solid society/government and god may have wanted to set some rules to keep the human race going, instead of there being absolute chaos, murders, theft, etc.

people were not awe struck looking at jesus because he did not look like god, he looked like any other man in that time period, i've never heard that jesus was god on earth, otherwise he would have never been crucified and cast horrible wrath on sinners and the roman empire

then he goes on to say that god would have to judge 2 people every second at the rate of death, but anyone with the slightest bit of intelligence knows that time is only a human perception with measurements of a reoccuring pattern (day/night, months to makeup seasons, seasons to makeup years).. if you've ever been unconscious u know that it can seem like hours, when in conscious time it was only a matter of minutes, and when you die, if there is anything at all after death, time and your perception of it is totally gone, and you would experience "eternity" until you are reincarnated, or forever

god wouldnt work a 9 to 5, because time does not exist, and also obviously this guy knows nothing about christianity, because god himself is not who judges people

then he brings up dinosaurs for who knows what the fuck reason, i guess to prove how "scientific" he is, but humans didnt "have to have lived with the dinosaurs", because if we did, the human race would be extinct as well

in the bible it talks about god creating the world in 7 days, and if i'm correct, man was made on the 7th day, by 7 days i'm sure this does not mean 168 hours in human time, it is a metaphor like most of the bible, so man was not made the very second the earth was created, 7 days was probably in fact millions of years, 7 days in "god time" which debunks his theory of god judging people at 2 per second because as i said before, time does not exist

people always attack specifically christianity for some reason, when in fact all religions are "fake" in a scientific sense, and by doing so your no better then a christian, thinking that your opinion is absolute truth.

and that was negligents debunking of the debunking of christianity

and did i mention i also think christianity is fairly stupid as well? not as stupid as the guy who wrote this though

im athiest. but if you believe in satan you have to believe in god
this is just stupid