Christianity has been debunked once and for all

[citizen abuse]

Until proven otherwise, I've reached the conclusion that negligent is a Christian, which is the real reason he's attacking the piece so vociferously. It touches a nerve with him, as it would be expected to do with Christians. The reason he's concealing that fact is because he wants to give the appearance of impartiality. I, therefore, won't respond to anymore of his responses to this thread.

[scoobydooby67]

Originally Posted by citizen abuse

Until proven otherwise, I've reached the conclusion that negligent is a Christian, which is the real reason he's attacking the piece so vociferously. It touches a nerve with him, as it would be expected to do with Christians. The reason he's concealing that fact is because he wants to give the appearance of impartiality.

Originally Posted by citizen abuse

I, therefore, won't respond to anymore of his responses to this thread.

no one asked you to.

[Arnack]

Ehh. I think I'm going to stay away from this thread here...

[negligent]

ok citizen abuse, whatever you say

since i'm such a hardcore fucking christian, thats why i have AVE SATANAS tattoo'd across my chest (latin for hail satan) and above it i just got the satanic pentagram tattoo'd (pentagram with a goats head in it)

and even if i was a christian who gives a fuck, so your not gonna respond to my threads cuz i'm a christian? that makes you an absolute worthless peice of shit in my book, no better than a fucking racist. just cuz the article you posted was stupid and full of useless observations is no reason to discredit all of the shit i've said, just as your article points out things about christianity having no credibility, all i've done is point out weak points in the article that hold no real meaning that discredits christianity, just blatant arguments that have all been used before, nothing new

and for the record

AVE SATANAS!, REGIE SATANAS!, HAIL SATAN!

only hardcore christians get tattoo's for the devil

http://forum.grasscity.com/general/1...ood-parts.html


is that fucking proof enough that i'm not a fucking christian dude?? god your stupidity pisses me the fuck off

edit: and i am a satanist, just because satanism shares similarities to paganism and hedonism, doesnt mean i'm not a satanism, catholic and prodestan chrisians share mostly the same belief system, but yet theres still a difference

kna mean, so i dont care what religion u think i am, i'm a satanist, regardless of if it sounds just like some other religion, i only told you the primary basis of the religion, there are also rituals and other belief's that make it seperate from those other religions, i just used the generic explanation just to explain that i dont worship the devil, since in satanism, you are satan, when you say hail satan, your hailing yourself, because we are gods ourselves

[Arnack]

Can I ask what type of satanist you are? Theistic Satanist? Atheistic? LaVeyan?

[Mr.bubbles]

shit mane stayin blowed

[negligent]

Laveyan

FYI for those who dont know, that means i follow the satanic bible written by Anton Szandor Lavey

check it out, good read, n u'll be like "damn, i already live my life like this... hell even most christians do"

[citizen abuse]

Originally Posted by Retroshark

pretty good read, although i may have seen this before. definately an avid dawkins reader!!

good find +rep

and yes, that means i whole heartedly agree with every word of it.

Good unbiased opinion!

Just the one point alone that the piece makes, that Jesus Christ had zero knowledge of the natural world, is the absolute knockout blow to any notion that Jesus was the son of a being that created the universe. The absolute knockout blow!

[HighGrowMan]

Originally Posted by negligent

How do you say that christianity "Helps you find the truth inside of you" if anything it pushes the truth deep deep inside you so you cannot find it.

"Sending His own Son in a body like that of sinful human nature and as a sacrifice for sin" - Romans 8:3

How could our human nature be sinful? These are the 3 most horrible words I've ever heard. That is just bone chilling (wait till you hear a priest say it.) *Shivers*

All the christian religion does is tell people that they are sinners and they need to fear and thank/praise god, this is not how things should be.

Does it scare anyone else that there are people, policemen, politicians, doctors all making daily and important decisions based on faith and fear of god?

And your friends and family, they are not living there life to the fullest. And why? Well they can do that when they get to heaven right?

I believe that Jesus was trying to teach people how to find the truth, that was his purpose.

Paul on the other hand (who you quoted in Romans) was a official in the Church of The Sun, based out of Rhodes. This church was very popular in Greece and Rome; and actually Constantine was a life long member of this church (no he was not a Christian, in the sense that he followed Jesus).

If you study anything about Sun worship they love to make people feel guilty about themselves, it is a normal trick for them. First they show you the 'dark side of the sun' and then they show you the 'light side of the sun' or the protective father figure. So if you have any security or fear issues, you will run towards this 'father figure' and cry and weep.

So basically I agree with everything you say, however I would like to clear Jesus's name of it, because I believe that without him, this Sun cult would be without morals what-so-ever, and we would already all be living in cages, like cattle.

[bkadoctaj]

Originally Posted by HighGrowMan

I believe that Jesus was trying to teach people how to find the truth, that was his purpose.

Paul on the other hand (who you quoted in Romans) was a official in the Church of The Sun, based out of Rhodes. This church was very popular in Greece and Rome; and actually Constantine was a life long member of this church (no he was not a Christian, in the sense that he followed Jesus).

If you study anything about Sun worship they love to make people feel guilty about themselves, it is a normal trick for them. First they show you the 'dark side of the sun' and then they show you the 'light side of the sun' or the protective father figure. So if you have any security or fear issues, you will run towards this 'father figure' and cry and weep.

So basically I agree with everything you say, however I would like to clear Jesus's name of it, because I believe that without him, this Sun cult would be without morals what-so-ever, and we would already all be living in cages, like cattle.

That's an interesting thought... isn't that sort of the premise that Zeitgeist totally twists around?

[primetime21335]

Originally Posted by Arnack

I've argued against many smart Christians and it made me staying uneasy whether if i'm right or wrong being an atheist. I would love to confirm myself it's fake but they provide some good debates.

To 100% believe in atheism is just as ignorant and foolish as believing 100% in an organized religion.



And I must add, I've had debates with christians before, and by the end they either hated me or weren't very christian anymore. I wish I could meet some of the christians you met. Not necessarily to prove them wrong, but to learn. Christians like that are rare.

[primetime21335]

Originally Posted by negligent

ok citizen abuse, whatever you say

since i'm such a hardcore fucking christian, thats why i have AVE SATANAS tattoo'd across my chest (latin for hail satan) and above it i just got the satanic pentagram tattoo'd (pentagram with a goats head in it)

and even if i was a christian who gives a fuck, so your not gonna respond to my threads cuz i'm a christian? that makes you an absolute worthless peice of shit in my book, no better than a fucking racist. just cuz the article you posted was stupid and full of useless observations is no reason to discredit all of the shit i've said, just as your article points out things about christianity having no credibility, all i've done is point out weak points in the article that hold no real meaning that discredits christianity, just blatant arguments that have all been used before, nothing new

and for the record

AVE SATANAS!, REGIE SATANAS!, HAIL SATAN!

only hardcore christians get tattoo's for the devil

http://forum.grasscity.com/general/1...ood-parts.html


is that fucking proof enough that i'm not a fucking christian dude?? god your stupidity pisses me the fuck off

edit: and i am a satanist, just because satanism shares similarities to paganism and hedonism, doesnt mean i'm not a satanism, catholic and prodestan chrisians share mostly the same belief system, but yet theres still a difference

kna mean, so i dont care what religion u think i am, i'm a satanist, regardless of if it sounds just like some other religion, i only told you the primary basis of the religion, there are also rituals and other belief's that make it seperate from those other religions, i just used the generic explanation just to explain that i dont worship the devil, since in satanism, you are satan, when you say hail satan, your hailing yourself, because we are gods ourselves

We are gods ourselves huh? Damn man, your belief seem to have an ego problem. To be godly is one thing, but think all of us are gods... eh... I'm not sure I follow, or understand the reasoning behind it at all.

I mean, I get the whole we are satan thing, because we sin and love to sin, etc, but to call us gods ourselves is beyond egotistical, I almost think it's laughable.

Truly though, I want you to understand I'm not personally attacking you by saying I feel it's laughable, I'm merely stating my honest opinion, and I would hope you'd respect my honesty. I don't look at you as any less of a person for having that belief.

Could you please, perhaps, give me a quick synopsis as to why you are satan and why you believe everyone else's religion is wrong but yours is right? I am curious.

[weedseed]

Wow! Sorry bud, but I cant even give you an 'A' for effort on that. It's the same ole stuff that you see time and time again.

I couldn't even finish it. The rough draft was probably marked in crayon. I'm definitely not going to waste my time breaking all of that down. The entire paper (atleast what I read) is self-defeating.

There aren't any facts supporting the "no god" theory anywhere in that whole mess. It's all jibber-jabber.

Everyone on this planet is religious (yeah, religious). You cannot escape it. And almost everyone is convinced that their religion is the right one.

Whoever wrote that has a serious lack of historical knowledge--Has no clue as to what it means to be a Christian--And probably couldn't tell you up from down (not because they oppose my beliefs but because their argument ...well...it blows.).

Sorry. I'm at work so the time I have to devote to this is at a minimum (not that I'd give it much either way..but yeah...).

[primetime21335]

Originally Posted by scoobydooby67

no one asked you to.

WOW DUDE, +REP! I'VE MADE THAT FACE AT A CPU MILLIONS OF TIMES AND NOW I FINALLY HAVE A PICTURE TO USE NEXT TIME!

HAHAHAHA YES!! I've been waiting for a smilie like that for years, now though, thanks to star trek and you, MY PROBLEM IS SOLVED!

[negligent]

Originally Posted by primetime21335

We are gods ourselves huh? Damn man, your belief seem to have an ego problem. To be godly is one thing, but think all of us are gods... eh... I'm not sure I follow, or understand the reasoning behind it at all.

I mean, I get the whole we are satan thing, because we sin and love to sin, etc, but to call us gods ourselves is beyond egotistical, I almost think it's laughable.

Truly though, I want you to understand I'm not personally attacking you by saying I feel it's laughable, I'm merely stating my honest opinion, and I would hope you'd respect my honesty. I don't look at you as any less of a person for having that belief.

Could you please, perhaps, give me a quick synopsis as to why you are satan and why you believe everyone else's religion is wrong but yours is right? I am curious.

i never said that i believe my religion is right and everyone elses is wrong, i even stated in one of my previous posts in this thread that it is impossible to know who is right and thinking that your right by being atheist is no more honorable than being christian and thinking your right

and by all of us are gods i guess i didnt quite give a good enough explanation.. its not in an egotistical way that i meant to say it.. it basically is like this.. christians believe that god determines everything that happens to them, but as a satanist i believe that we control all of our own outcomes, therfor making us "god" (the one that controls our life)

get it?

"2 hands at work can accomplish more in a day than 1000 hands clasped in prayer"

i wanna get that tat'd somewhere

edit:

Originally Posted by citizen abuse

Until proven otherwise, I've reached the conclusion that negligent is a Christian, which is the real reason he's attacking the piece so vociferously. It touches a nerve with him, as it would be expected to do with Christians. The reason he's concealing that fact is because he wants to give the appearance of impartiality. I, therefore, won't respond to anymore of his responses to this thread.

ok i proved that i'm not a christian and i am indeed a satanist, so you can continue responding now