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03-15-2008, 04:39 PM
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negligent, for a satinist you do about as good a job defending Christianity as any Jesus freak I've ever known!
I read the piece and believe that it more than lives up to its title. No rationally minded person could read it and still attach any credibility whatsoever to Christianity. All you did was try to dispute fact with nothing but speculation. For instnce, what you say regarding Jesus' purpose for being here is nothing but speculation. What the piece says about Jesus not demonstrating any knowledge of the natural world, however, is fact. What you say about time being a human concept is nothing but speculation. What the piece says about death rates, however, is fact. You really shouldn't try to dispute facts using nothing but sheer, utter and absurd speculation! |
    
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03-15-2008, 05:07 PM
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"Sending His own Son in a body like that of sinful human nature and as a sacrifice for sin" - Romans 8:3 How could our human nature be sinful? These are the 3 most horrible words I've ever heard. That is just bone chilling (wait till you hear a priest say it.) *Shivers* All the christian religion does is tell people that they are sinners and they need to fear and thank/praise god, this is not how things should be. Does it scare anyone else that there are people, policemen, politicians, doctors all making daily and important decisions based on faith and fear of god? And your friends and family, they are not living there life to the fullest. And why? Well they can do that when they get to heaven right?  Quote:
Just wondering....never met a satanist 
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03-15-2008, 06:18 PM
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Added note,
I was raised as a catholic. Funny thing, I wasnt informed that I had a choice till after my confirmation (Sacrament of confirming you're faith when your old enough to make the decision for your own.) When I asked my mom about her confirmation she said she wasnt confirmed. When I asked why, she told me what confirmation was about....You better bet your ass my catholic school (the school i confirmed through) didnt tell me any of this. Just wake up, don't fear god, dont fear hell, THIS IS IT RIGHT NOW....So read read as much as you can, cus you aint gonna doing much in the dirt. Please. EDIT:: Found a good quote "A growing mind can easily digest the idea of a univers guided by an unswerving law, as it can the concept of a distant personage that it may never see, who dwells it knows not where, and who has at some time created out of nothing a universe which is permeated by emnity, injustice, inequality of opportunity, and endless suffering and strife"
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03-15-2008, 07:12 PM
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03-15-2008, 07:44 PM
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well, from what i know about satanism, its not actual worship of satan. i'm pretty sure that its about doing what you want, indulging all fantasies, etc. even if its considered bad, or socially unacceptable.
correct me if im wrong, however. i dont know a whole lot about the subject of satanism.
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03-15-2008, 08:45 PM
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I believe this is called Hedonism  So negligent, do you worship satan?.......If so, do you believe in a being opposite of him/her?
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03-16-2008, 03:17 AM
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All satanism is, is worshipping the devil. Nothing more, nothing less. I'm wondering if negligent's acknowledgment of being a satanist isn't just a veiled way of admitting that he's really a Christian? Isn't satan and/or devil really a Christian term? He defends Christianity fervently and clearly has an indepth knowledge of it.
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03-16-2008, 04:00 AM
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2. so you think christianity is the first religion to come up with the name of an being that hoards evil souls? 3b. he has in-depth knowledge because its better to know what the fuck you are talking about when you argue something. 3a. not once does he defend christianity, he only points out how the poster was wrong by using and referencing the "facts" that are located within christian doctrine.
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03-16-2008, 06:12 AM
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haha, satanism has nothing to do with the devil at all, we dont believe in a magical man in the sky who is all seeing upon us, nor a burning fire pit with a horned beast who tortures
i do believe ina higher power i guess, but that higher power doesnt look at humans as his creation or of any importance at all, the higher power is basically nature/ the universe and time not existing is a speculation? not really, time is a perception, if time is solid set in stone, why is it that sometimes an hour can feel like forever, but sometimes an hour can go by in the blink of an eye, its all how you perceive it, all time is (such as 60 minutes in an hour, 24 hours a day) is a simple earth pattern, a day is equal to the earth revolving once, but if you take yourself off of earth that pattern no longer exists nor does time, sure if you have a watch in space it will still continue working, but that watch is based off of earths pattern, so time only pertains to earths rotations and orbits around the sun, if you were to go off into space for a certain amount of time, and then come back, you could not say how long you were in space for without the aid of a watch, because time only exists on earth.. i could make an hour equal to 2 hours, and make a day 12 hours, and have a month equal to 2 months n have a year equal to 6 months, all time is is a pattern that is measured i'm not really defending christianity at all, but this guy doesnt make any good intelligent arguments at all. i think christianity is a crock of shit just as much as any other atheist or agnostic or satanist, but the guy who wrote this basically wrote it like he had some kind of great realization, but really all he wrote was a bunch of random bullshit that everyone has already thought of before, theres nothing new there he takes the bible in literal context, which is what alot of crazy christians do, but any down to earth christian knows the bible is mostly stories to teach how to be a decent human being oh and the basis of satanism is that the 7 deadly sins of the christian church are all natural urges, and theres no afterlife punishment for indulging in them.. as long as they bring you pleasure and do not negatively effect anyone elses life, theres nothing wrong with it and trust me i dont know that much about the bible, i only know what i know because my pap is christian and watches alot of preachings on television, so i know what i know from watching that over the years and hearing bits n peices of it from other rooms haha i think maybe u wrote this citizen abuse, in which case, i'm sorry you couldnt think of better arguments against christianity i dont have a problem with people believing whatever they want to, so long as it makes them happy and good hearted.. most people just want to believe that this shitty life on earth isnt all there is to it n that theres something amazing after this boring ordinary life on earth hell, even i hope theres something after this life, i dont think theres a heaven or hell, but i would like it if maybe when y ou die you get to go through the universe and gain universal knowledge and understanding as your reward and then live on some sort of astral plain where just about anything is possible edit: and the only reason satanism is called such is because it is an opposite of the christian belief system, christians believe there are sins that are to be avoided, satanists believe the sins are really just natural urges that bring pleasure and are to be indulged in a better term for satanism would be atheistic hedenism edit again: "No rationally minded person could read it and still attach any credibility whatsoever to Christianity." i never attached any credibility to christianity in the first place, i read it, and it didnt make me go "ooooooh ... HES RIGHT!!" i just read it and thought "just another atheist trying to argue that he's right and is all knowing" cuz when it comes down to it, no one fuckin knows, haha for all u know when you die your gonna fuckin be cryin your eyes out as you fall down to the hell u thought didnt exist, or u could just die n that would be the end of conscious thought (life) you cant argue something that you have no idea as to the real answer, it just makes you seem ignorant, and lemme say, you do it quite good edit again again: n if u wanna know another one of my idea's, heres the most realistic heaven/hell scenario i've thought of.. energy cannot be destroyed, it can dissipate, but will always exist.. just as matter can not be destroyed. the energy (firing of electrons in your brain from synapse to synapse) that is your consciousness and thought is what christians would call your "soul".. if this energy does not dissipate, it is possible that it can transfer into another developing living human mind (a baby in the womb), so that this baby now has your "soul" in it, but no recollection of your past life, because your brain is what holds memory. so if there is such a thing as fate, i think its quite possible that if you were a bad/evil person in ur previous life, you new life will be full of pain and suffering, such as poverty, illness, the death of loved ones, overall bad luck, etc. however it is possible to become a good person in your new shitty life and when you die and continue onto the next life, your life will be full of prosperity, luck, health, etc. the main reason i thought of this is because my whole life has been nothing but shitluck, even though i'm what i'd like to think of myself as a good person, never fucked anyone over, always try to help others out.. so i think its quite possible that in my past life i was a horrible person and my "soul" is now being punished in this shitty life i'm not saying that this is what i believe, but its certainly just as much of a possibility as any other idea as to what happens after death.
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03-16-2008, 07:34 AM
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satanism, while not solely focused on the Devil persay, is based around a belief system of demons/fallen angels/evil spirits. i agree with everything you say, but youre not technically a satanist.
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03-16-2008, 07:54 AM
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 seen a docu. on this, awsome stuff.Quote:
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Off topic::: you guys see that thread about the pope changing the 7 sins lol. (im flyin and blabbling)
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03-16-2008, 07:58 AM
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you mean the catholic church changed part of their doctrine? Say it isn't so my good man. They did the same thing with the immaculate conception, so this should surprise no one.
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03-16-2008, 08:09 AM
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http://forum.grasscity.com/spiritual...mendments.html check it
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03-16-2008, 08:11 AM
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03-16-2008, 04:44 PM
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Just thought I'd clear something up.... Satanism doesn't necessarily mean worshiping Satan or devils or anything like that. It can mean that, but it's a common misconception because there are many different forms of religion/spirituality referred to as Satanism. The most common association with the word is belonging to a small religious group that is unrelated to any other faith, and whose members feel free to satisfy their urges responsibly, exhibit kindness to their friends, and attack their enemies. It's called Satanism because one who follows it accepts Satan as a pre-Christian life principle wor |
