The Domino Effect

[g0pher]

There is a Process of Living

Should you remove even a small bug, a mosquito, - the domino effect occurs on other species, flowers, general life.. Remove the plankton from the ocean - our atmosphere is greatly affected and would

Hell For all the mosquitos I've sent to grave, the domino effect could wipe the life off this planet.. because see - there is balance of living, and we are part of that balance.

The "Process" of Living relies greatly on many factors

But remove the human race, and I believe - The planet will not be affected... The planet will improve with us gone.

Nature does not relie on our Existance, its the other way round.

My Brothers, I dont think that we belong here...

[g0pher]

Fuckit, but then again Man's role in this world today is not what it used to be much earlier in time. Early man was a hunter/gatherer. As a hunter, primarily of grazing animals, he helped keep the population in check.

Without predators, the population of grazers would soon reach the point that they would eat all of the available food and starve. As a gatherer, he gathered fruits, nuts, roots, and whatever the fuck flintstone done. But he certainly did dropp an occasional nut there which sprouted and grew into a whole new tree.

The seeds, the seeds of the fruits that he gathered were spread about and sprouted. If he never gathered fruits and nuts, So as a gatherer, he helped maintain the health of those plants and spread them about randomly.

But then, as a thinking animal, he eventually came to understand a few things which changed his life-style after some time in his genarational though pattern. He realized that the seeds he was scattering would grow into new plants. So he also thought for himself that hey ... if he I catch some of these animals I hunt, and raise them up- I would have Continuous Meat. Some Fuckin genius flintstone then noticed that hey! "My plants grow better where ever these animals shit! 'We then had farming.

But fuck, Today man's role has changed. Because After completely wiping out several species, and endangering many others, he still continues to endager himself and nature by the gases and fuems he emits, but it all balances out I - as long the'res an intellegent species like him on this planet, He will strive for equalibrium.. for his own existance's sake. Heck he's even started to protect some of these species he's endagered, without his protection, these animal species would simply not make it.

So man's existance is quite alright while he is here. Because this is our fuckin Home - we have no other.

- Gopher

American Evolution

[remdog]

Originally Posted by g0pher

There is a Process of Living

Should you remove even a small bug, a mosquito, - the domino effect occurs on other species, flowers, general life.. Remove the plankton from the ocean - our atmosphere is greatly affected and would

Hell For all the mosquitos I've sent to grave, the domino effect could wipe the life off this planet.. because see - there is balance of living, and we are part of that balance.

The "Process" of Living relies greatly on many factors

But remove the human race, and I believe - The planet will not be affected... The planet will improve with us gone.

Nature does not relie on our Existance, its the other way round.

My Brothers, I dont think that we belong here...

hey meng, i see where you are comin from, and their is a story, not the movie but the orginal text, called the butterfly effect. Humans have a huge impact on the enviroment, mostly in a bad way. And in fact it is impossiable for a human to live with out a reliance on the environment, also however even cows change the environment in a huge way. I am not a huge supportor of a lot of the global warming theories as the changing climate also fits the global climate change pattern over the last million years. However scientist say methane gas is the largest contributing greenhouse gas, and cows contribute more mthane gas than our cars do.... however the paradox is, the population of cows is abnormaly high thanks to human intrest in consumption of beef and diary products. so the paradox is, if we still lived in cavs and hunted just as wolfs do, would we just be part of the normal food chains, being pray to a beast of some kind, or would we still be the top. Is it humans, or is it techknowledgy that humans use to make us superior. The early man who knew nothing but how to survive, in an arguable opinon belongs here, but our guns and cars do not.
I am not saying you are wrong, i am simply saying there is more too it than human vs no human life. Its a very thought provking question.

[Zylark]

True that nature would proceed quite happily without us.

Not the point. As far as we know, we are the only sentient species in the universe. Not very likely, but again, as far as we know.

That do carry with it some kind of responsibility. To spread sentience everywhere we can.

And whatever we do to reach that goal, will have effects. On every scale and for any number of reasons. And seeing as reality is (to put it mildly) complex, small variables will have great effect.

But those cannot be anticipated. So as always, humanity have to ride on the edge of the seat. And wherever bumps in the road occur, we will do what we have always done. Dig through them, walk over them or bypass alltogether. But we've never given up as a species. And I do not see that changing anytime soon.

[Richi]

I would rephrase "we don't belong here" with "we are not welcome here"... at least from the position of nature. Maybe we will change one day.... maybe.....

[Zylark]

Ummm, we _are_ nature...


What about us and our culture is not natural?

[bkadoctaj]

Originally Posted by Zylark

Ummm, we _are_ nature...


What about us and our culture is not natural?

I kind of wonder about that too...

[Zylark]

Well, there you go then. It's all natural, enjoy it!

But you know, freedom under responsibility. No disregarding hedonism please. Have fun

[Arnack]

Originally Posted by Zylark

Ummm, we _are_ nature...


What about us and our culture is not natural?

I agree. I think of the same thing sometimes. Is every single thing we do completely natural? We are animals ourselves- there is no reason to separate as from others.

[remdog]

Originally Posted by Zylark

Ummm, we _are_ nature...


What about us and our culture is not natural?

we are, but the things we make, thoose are not. what we have made is what is changing the world for the worse, rather than us i.e. cars, factories, and so on.

[bkadoctaj]

Originally Posted by remdog

we are, but the things we make, thoose are not. what we have made is what is changing the world for the worse, rather than us i.e. cars, factories, and so on.

Perhaps what separates humans from all other animals is their ability to develop an understanding of the general effect they may have on their habitat.

[Arnack]

Originally Posted by bkadoctaj

Perhaps what separates humans from all other animals is their ability to develop an understanding of the general effect they may have on their habitat.

Nice +rep.

[Richi]

We are what separates us from other animals. What makes us human is the fact that we separate ourselves in the first place, as I did in my former statement.