Life and death

Digit · #1 (**permalink**) 09-10-2001, 09:12 PM

During Life, death is not present. During death, life is not present. The two can never co-exist. So during life i have no need to be concerned about death as once I have reached death, life will not be present and thus, niether will I.

dob2b4me · #2 (**permalink**) 09-12-2001, 03:56 AM

who told u that? i mean did you see this with your own eyes? becuse you could not be more wrong.

truth: you do not die ,only your body dies.

this i have seen with my own eyes

i do not open my mouth to much around here but thought you should know the truth.
peace to you bro.
dob2b4me

Digit · #3 (**permalink**) 09-13-2001, 02:17 AM

have you had an "out of body" experience in the post death sence?

when have you ever subscribed to the "seeing is believing" philosophy???

there could be any number of scientific explanations for what you saw.

the rainman! · #4 (**permalink**) 11-13-2001, 08:18 PM

well that sounded good but it just alittle off!read other lives by steiger and william hawthorn,printed in 1969,knowen as one of the best books ever readen on a startling documented personal histories of reincarnation, i have a frist edtion! signed!its quite rare but out right one of the finist on this topic you could ever find!amazon.com mit have it!and yes i have had a out of life experience!and you could see what your saying! but their are a few sprits that retan the event in its full details!and with out con fussion! yes seeing is beleiveing for some! but knowing the presents of a greater beging is not something one can fake!felling god near you is like feeling god near you!knowing him ,knowing he lives,knowing he is real can only beknow by meeting him!fact!good luck tazz11

JStedanko · #5 (**permalink**) 01-11-2002, 08:16 AM

I tend to think of living as the state before death... much like larvae precedes pupa. If you think of it in that context, that we're simply born to die... it makes your short-life seem like something worth enjoying.

If there's no big party after death, only a black void... why not enjoy yourself now and enjoy your fellow man. You'll only get to know the people you know once... relish in their presence.

ganjaphish · #6 (**permalink**) 01-13-2002, 07:15 PM

Death *is* present in life, though...
I thought about this one alot, and actually have read this thread a few times thinking about it, and it may work for you!! And that's good! You are lucky to not be cursed with a mind as curious as my own, because I torment myself with such questions!

But for me, even the mere knowledge of death makes me want to improve on my life. The fact that we don't know what happens after death preoccupies even the greatest minds with fantasies about a heaven, reincarnation, the fears of hell, nonexistence, the possibilities are endless. It, along with the "meaning of life" has been the all-time stumper for the human race. What happens after we die? Nobody actually knows, until they die and are no longer here to explain it to us. Damn them! j/k

There are people who have had near-death experiences who all have vivid memories of these experiences that are phenomenal, but there is no scientific explanation for what they saw, and nobody can verify that it is true, and not a common dream amongst those who survived almost-death.

The preoccupation of death lies in every single human, even you Digit because something had you thinkin about death to come up with this thread!! The knowledge of death alters each and every one of us in a different way - some more than others. I live my life to the fullest, I thirst for knowledge and wisdom, I try to help others who are not as fortunate as myself, because I want them to live it to the fullest too. I value every day I have, no matter how crappy it is, because I know there will be a day in my future when my body DOESN'T rise from my bed. Where my spirit goes from there, I don't know. I boggle my mind about reincarnation, but why can't I remember my past lives, and if I can't remember them, are they really worth anything? And heaven versus hell, well there are so many GRAY AREAS I can't possibly believe the 2 exist as extremes, but meld together and everyone gets their own version of an afterlife. People even have careers based on figuring out what happens to our spirits, or for the non-spiritual, the mind when we die, devote their entire lives trying to figure this out and still die not truly KNOWING.. Beleiving, perhaps, but not KNOWING. And it effects us.
So therefore, death IS present amongst life. We witness it every day, and it alters how we treat others, whom we relate to, how we live our lives.

just my $2 and some change

speedfreak · #7 (**permalink**) 03-19-2002, 04:29 AM

wtf?life n def r human concepts.
I cant b leve smokerz need this xplaned.

the rainman! · #8 (**permalink**) 03-19-2002, 06:18 PM

he that knows god ,fears not hell's evil! darkness can't hide from the light! strenghten your aura and walk threw like you own hell ,its fun for the true of faith.....inner power well light your way in this life and the next ! , and beyond!,....good luck tazz11

skrwee · #9 (**permalink**) 03-19-2002, 11:14 PM

when you gatta go you gatta go

no use worrying about when or how jest know death come for us all

and i for one will welcome it with open arms

your whole life is lived in order to reach your death

it is not the end only another begining

what you may ask is on the other side?

find someone who has been there and ask them

but my gess is our laguage has not the words to discribe

what we will find

the rainman! · #10 (**permalink**) 03-20-2002, 02:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by skrwee
when you gatta go you gatta go

no use worrying about when or how jest know death come for us all

and i for one will welcome it with open arms

your whole life is lived in order to reach your death

it is not the end only another begining

what you may ask is on the other side?

find someone who has been there and ask them

but my gess is our laguage has not the words to discribe

what we will find

my whole life is lived to let every one know, he still lives! as long as i am here on earth that is! lol

FunkyUnkie · #11 (**permalink**) 03-21-2002, 12:29 AM

the rainman, your a smart man, I don't know how many times I have said that here and on Yahooka.

But you hit the nail on the head!

Fearing hell is stupid!
I fear someone that doesn't posses the light that I feel I have for being able to create my life to be good and a loveing person.

Not knowing you can live a good life is bad for someone.

When you die, you might just escape to your mind. Why fill your life with bad things, it will just fill your mind with bad things x3.

speedfreak · #12 (**permalink**) 03-21-2002, 11:41 PM

heres a thought or 2.the better things u do ,the better life u have.if u wanna live in heaven just act like u think a resident would act n BINGO youll b living there in no time 4 heaven n hell exist everywhere

bongwater19 · #13 (**permalink**) 03-22-2002, 06:05 PM

i do not fear death. i know that when my body dies my mind will no longer be limited by my physical brain or my physical body. my mind will be reabsorbed into the collective consciousness.

all needs and desires, caused by earthly and physiological factors, will be eliminated. imagine if you didn't need food or water, never got hot or cold, felt no pain.

all problems will be no longer relevant.

eating mushrooms give you about four or six hours of this, blocking portions where your consciousness attached to your physical being. then you can see the things that your physical consciousness is supposed to keep you hidden away from.

Merlin420 · #14 (**permalink**) 04-26-2002, 05:00 AM

IN life there are many stages,if you were to say that when you die life dosen't exsist then how do you describe heaven,or lack there of?
In fact there are many realms of life. we are in the physical realm, there are many more that only deals with astrological plains w/ very little matter or none at all. "The absence of religon is the true path to god." Quote by:Ben Cobb

æSNAFUæ · #15 (**permalink**) 04-29-2002, 06:25 PM

How can we be sure that the world we live in right now is not a stage of after death... what if this is what we go through after we die... Living might be something totally different... what if this is the Heavon and Hell everyone speaks of... what if only our bodies leave this earth and we stay here... No one will ever know... and all different beliefes are supportied by theory one way of another... so i truly believe no one will ever know the truth but the truth inside... what they totally believe... what I believe is supported my the Bible (i am not religous... but some stuff i there i prove reasons for them happening in the bible) and it is also supported my the "BIG BANG" theory of the beginning of time and also supported my the every day matter of energy... so truthfully I wish well to all those who love to believe lol I will see you all in the "City"

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#1 (permalink) 09-10-2001, 09:12 PM
Digit Banned Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 7,829	Life and death During Life, death is not present. During death, life is not present. The two can never co-exist. So during life i have no need to be concerned about death as once I have reached death, life will not be present and thus, niether will I.

#2 (permalink) 09-12-2001, 03:56 AM
dob2b4me Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: wi.usa Posts: 5	who told u that? i mean did you see this with your own eyes? becuse you could not be more wrong. truth: you do not die ,only your body dies. this i have seen with my own eyes i do not open my mouth to much around here but thought you should know the truth. peace to you bro. dob2b4me

#3 (permalink) 09-13-2001, 02:17 AM
Digit Banned Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 7,829	really? have you had an "out of body" experience in the post death sence? when have you ever subscribed to the "seeing is believing" philosophy??? there could be any number of scientific explanations for what you saw.

#4 (permalink) 11-13-2001, 08:18 PM
the rainman! Old School Stoner Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: upstate ,new york Posts: 1,039	well that sounded good but it just alittle off!read other lives by steiger and william hawthorn,printed in 1969,knowen as one of the best books ever readen on a startling documented personal histories of reincarnation, i have a frist edtion! signed!its quite rare but out right one of the finist on this topic you could ever find!amazon.com mit have it!and yes i have had a out of life experience!and you could see what your saying! but their are a few sprits that retan the event in its full details!and with out con fussion! yes seeing is beleiveing for some! but knowing the presents of a greater beging is not something one can fake!felling god near you is like feeling god near you!knowing him ,knowing he lives,knowing he is real can only beknow by meeting him!fact!good luck tazz11 __________________ the rainman!

#5 (permalink) 01-11-2002, 08:16 AM
JStedanko Pop-culture Nerd... Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Boston Area, MA Posts: 33	I tend to think of living as the state before death... much like larvae precedes pupa. If you think of it in that context, that we're simply born to die... it makes your short-life seem like something worth enjoying. If there's no big party after death, only a black void... why not enjoy yourself now and enjoy your fellow man. You'll only get to know the people you know once... relish in their presence. __________________ "My ritual got me through another night..." The Folk Implosion

#6 (permalink) 01-13-2002, 07:15 PM
ganjaphish Old School Stoner Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: HumboldtCounty Posts: 1,706	'scuse my ramblings.. bit stoned but.. Death is present in life, though... I thought about this one alot, and actually have read this thread a few times thinking about it, and it may work for you!! And that's good! You are lucky to not be cursed with a mind as curious as my own, because I torment myself with such questions! But for me, even the mere knowledge of death makes me want to improve on my life. The fact that we don't know what happens after death preoccupies even the greatest minds with fantasies about a heaven, reincarnation, the fears of hell, nonexistence, the possibilities are endless. It, along with the "meaning of life" has been the all-time stumper for the human race. What happens after we die? Nobody actually knows, until they die and are no longer here to explain it to us. Damn them! j/k There are people who have had near-death experiences who all have vivid memories of these experiences that are phenomenal, but there is no scientific explanation for what they saw, and nobody can verify that it is true, and not a common dream amongst those who survived almost-death. The preoccupation of death lies in every single human, even you Digit because something had you thinkin about death to come up with this thread!! The knowledge of death alters each and every one of us in a different way - some more than others. I live my life to the fullest, I thirst for knowledge and wisdom, I try to help others who are not as fortunate as myself, because I want them to live it to the fullest too. I value every day I have, no matter how crappy it is, because I know there will be a day in my future when my body DOESN'T rise from my bed. Where my spirit goes from there, I don't know. I boggle my mind about reincarnation, but why can't I remember my past lives, and if I can't remember them, are they really worth anything? And heaven versus hell, well there are so many GRAY AREAS I can't possibly believe the 2 exist as extremes, but meld together and everyone gets their own version of an afterlife. People even have careers based on figuring out what happens to our spirits, or for the non-spiritual, the mind when we die, devote their entire lives trying to figure this out and still die not truly KNOWING.. Beleiving, perhaps, but not KNOWING. And it effects us. So therefore, death IS present amongst life. We witness it every day, and it alters how we treat others, whom we relate to, how we live our lives. just my $2 and some change __________________ "if we couldn't laugh we would all go insane" ~ jimmy buffett

#7 (permalink) 03-19-2002, 04:29 AM
speedfreak Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 10	wtf?life n def r human concepts. I cant b leve smokerz need this xplaned.

#8 (permalink) 03-19-2002, 06:18 PM
the rainman! Old School Stoner Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: upstate ,new york Posts: 1,039	he that knows god ,fears not hell's evil! darkness can't hide from the light! strenghten your aura and walk threw like you own hell ,its fun for the true of faith.....inner power well light your way in this life and the next ! , and beyond!,....good luck tazz11 __________________ the rainman!

#9 (permalink) 03-19-2002, 11:14 PM
skrwee Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 62	when you gatta go you gatta go no use worrying about when or how jest know death come for us all and i for one will welcome it with open arms your whole life is lived in order to reach your death it is not the end only another begining what you may ask is on the other side? find someone who has been there and ask them but my gess is our laguage has not the words to discribe what we will find

#11 (permalink) 03-21-2002, 12:29 AM
FunkyUnkie Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 4	the rainman, your a smart man, I don't know how many times I have said that here and on Yahooka. But you hit the nail on the head! Fearing hell is stupid! I fear someone that doesn't posses the light that I feel I have for being able to create my life to be good and a loveing person. Not knowing you can live a good life is bad for someone. When you die, you might just escape to your mind. Why fill your life with bad things, it will just fill your mind with bad things x3. __________________ If your have connections or work in Grosse Pointe Park, MI police department. PSO Narduzzi is a crooked cop, and a pedaphile.

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#12 (permalink) 03-21-2002, 11:41 PM
speedfreak Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 10	heres a thought or 2.the better things u do ,the better life u have.if u wanna live in heaven just act like u think a resident would act n BINGO youll b living there in no time 4 heaven n hell exist everywhere

#13 (permalink) 03-22-2002, 06:05 PM
bongwater19 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 33	i do not fear death. i know that when my body dies my mind will no longer be limited by my physical brain or my physical body. my mind will be reabsorbed into the collective consciousness. all needs and desires, caused by earthly and physiological factors, will be eliminated. imagine if you didn't need food or water, never got hot or cold, felt no pain. all problems will be no longer relevant. eating mushrooms give you about four or six hours of this, blocking portions where your consciousness attached to your physical being. then you can see the things that your physical consciousness is supposed to keep you hidden away from. __________________ my honor is truth! and weed.

#14 (permalink) 04-26-2002, 05:00 AM
Merlin420 Elite "Oldschool" Smoker! Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 103	IN life there are many stages,if you were to say that when you die life dosen't exsist then how do you describe heaven,or lack there of? In fact there are many realms of life. we are in the physical realm, there are many more that only deals with astrological plains w/ very little matter or none at all. "The absence of religon is the true path to god." Quote by:Ben Cobb __________________ "If I got it, you got it, we got it." Members of the B.T.B <a href="http://www.1percent.com/?switch"><img src="http://img.1percent.com/picts/bann/bann100-30.gif" width="100" height="30" alt="1Percent.com Pipes and Free Music"></a> Last edited by Merlin420; 04-26-2002 at 06:42 AM.

#15 (permalink) 04-29-2002, 06:25 PM
æSNAFUæ SituationNorm.AllFuckedUp Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 28	How can we be sure that the world we live in right now is not a stage of after death... what if this is what we go through after we die... Living might be something totally different... what if this is the Heavon and Hell everyone speaks of... what if only our bodies leave this earth and we stay here... No one will ever know... and all different beliefes are supportied by theory one way of another... so i truly believe no one will ever know the truth but the truth inside... what they totally believe... what I believe is supported my the Bible (i am not religous... but some stuff i there i prove reasons for them happening in the bible) and it is also supported my the "BIG BANG" theory of the beginning of time and also supported my the every day matter of energy... so truthfully I wish well to all those who love to believe lol I will see you all in the "City" __________________ Bloo Bloo Blah Bloo Ploo Doo