What if you're wrong ?

[IGotTheCottons]

Originally Posted by GrowBot

there's no need to get huffy cotton. we are all free to believe what we believe to be the truth. if you're searching for the Lord, look into your heart. college isn't necessary if you're searching for the truth. why is it that people feel they have to see something in order to believe it exists? you gotta have faith.

Not getting huffy, dude. I'm simply trying to stress the fact that I had faith. It got me no where. I sought (past-tense) God, and Jesus and all that... And he never answered. I believe there's a possibility of there being a God, but certainly not the one of the Bible. The only reason I'm not a complete atheist is because of certain experiences which I'll not get into now.

@ Highbinder -- Yeah, man... Jesus said "Love thy neighbor as thyself."

[XPiperX]

Originally Posted by GrowBot

there's no need to get huffy cotton. we are all free to believe what we believe to be the truth. if you're searching for the Lord, look into your heart. college isn't necessary if you're searching for the truth. why is it that people feel they have to see something in order to believe it exists? you gotta have faith.

Using a dead, beaten-repeatedly argument ftl...

[Zylark]

hehehehehe, there is a better (clearer) one, in the same vein..

"Unless you believe, you cannot understand belief..."

Circular logic anyone?

[fearthebug]

Originally Posted by weedseed

edit: and to dirtydingusus...its true..its not in Gods will that any should perish (eternally) which is exactly why He gives you the choice of heaven or hell...if you choose heaven then He is overwhelmed with joy...if you choose hell (denying his existence and his plan) then He weeps oceans for your lost soul...

this is an answer from a christian view..

that's very poetic, but it sounds like an outdated method of control. either this, or that. no middle ground...no maybe. just either absolute good or absolute bad.

[Digit]

wot if you're wrong... i ask myself that perhaps more often than any other question. how to make something better only likely contender for being asked more.



http://www.tenthdimension.com/flash2.php

was contemplating/exploring this^ concept as i gazed upon the back of my "ten dimensional maze" book sat a meter away from me after i toked a bowl outta my ohmn pipe.

[dirtydingusus]

Originally Posted by HighGrowMan

+rep. Awsome post

thanks....

[Liquidtruth]

Originally Posted by GrowBot

when the Bible was written, 25% of it was prophecy. 100% of those prophecies have come true with the exception of "the rapture" and the "great tribulation." a mathematician has figured out that the chance of this being an accident was one chance over 87 followed by 93 zeros. therefore, it defies what mathematicians call, the null of hypothesis of probability, and is impossible. therefore it is a fact.

And the prophecies that have come true are...?

[j-mf-s]

not about to read the whole thing, but believing in god out of fear that it might be real isn't believing; hence the "might" element. ask yourself the same question about other religions vs christianity

[bandit420]

If I am wrong, then I will spend my "eternity of suffering" in the comfort that I lived my life the best way that I could, believing what I thought to be true, and not letting others tell me how to live my life. I will know that I lived a life that was full of beauty, and discovery, and freedom.
Honestly, the concept of spending an eternity in suffering does not scare me in the slightest. Certainly not enough to convert to ANY religion.

[junkiedays]

Originally Posted by weedseed

thats not putting words in anyone's mouth. if you wanted anything to do with God youd look for Him...im only stating the obvious

the evidence is in the experience..

honestly many christians (very sadly true) havent had a supernatural experience with God..only because they dont truly give their all..

and if you say its inaccurate to say someone who doesnt believe in God wants nothing to do with Him then i challenge you to give Him your heart ...seek Him diligently and with fervency...if you do that you will have your proof...

if you cant/wont do that then i was right in saying what i said.

Why would want I spend that much of a portion of my life trying to seek out a god that may or may not exist when I could... live my life?

The way I figure it, I only get one life, and it could be damned short. So I'm not going to spend my time seeking out some great answer to what happens when I die. I'll just focus on living while I still can, thanks.


EDIT: Wow. I'm really late in responding to this. My bad, I just now happened upon it.

[Liquidtruth]

Originally Posted by Highbinder

Okay I might very well get flamed for this, and I'm the first to say that my knowledge of religion/christianity/the bible isn't as much as others but perhaps less emphasis should be placed on the church and the bible as they are mens constructions, and asuch can be violated and corrupted and more on the following, on the mimicking, of Christ - as a good person,

In the incarnation, Christ's divine, non-differentiated impartial love acts as the exemplar for human, partial love.

Are there any jewish people here? I read a book called Everyman's Talmud, it goes over the stuff in the Talmud with extracts and suchlike. Anyway theres this one page and its a story that sums up - to me - the entireity of what religion should be.

Simply put (I can't remember exactly how it goes) the story is:

Theres a man who wanted to be taught the faith, but of the teachers he requires them to stand on one foot while he's being taught. The Rabbi cannot do it, until one appears, who, standing on one foot says: 'What is hateful to yourself, do not to your fellow man'

What more to it is there than that?

Probably, however, Jesus did not exist!

It is logic that tells us to not do hateful things to our "fellow man"... Why? Evolution! We are group animals, in order for a group to survive everyone must look out for everyone else. This is proper, natural, and a product of our evolution. Religions do not need to tell us the obvious, perhaps they once did, but that time has long since passed.

[GrowBot]

Originally Posted by Liquidtruth

And the prophecies that have come true are...?

how about the birth of jerusalem in a day? that has never happened before.

[Liquidtruth]

Birth of Jerusalem in a day? What are you talking about?

[GrowBot]

excuse me, i meant israel.