Chakras, Astral Projection and stuff

[ElectricJW]

I know I'll probably get flamed for this, but I know it to be 100% true. Yeah I know I could win 1 million dollars if I accept that challenge from that one guy, but the only way to know that it is REAL is to do it yourself.

First off, chakras is just an eastern term for energy. Everyone has 7 or 8 (depending on who you ask) energy primary centers, among many lower energy locations as well.



And here is a description of them, if you are interested:
http://www.folknouveau.com/healing/chakras.gif

For some people it's easier to feel these energy centers. When I'm high it is way easier to feel them, and the feeling is more intense. When you feel them, it will feel real real good(better than any drug), and at first it will feel like a bone tickling sensation (thats about the best I can describe it), in these spots. I would recommend on concentrating the most on the higher energy centers (heart and up), b/c these are used more for spiritual purposes. I would highly recommend you try to feel your energy while high.

I know some of you are thinking that I'm about half retarded or smoked way too much, but science tells us that we all give off or emit energy. A great example of this is sharks. Sharks detect their pray by locating minute electrical frequencies that they give off.

There are certain reptiles, that has the 3rd eye, which can be seen on their head.



This last pic is harder to see it b/c it is so well camouflaged. http://www.anapsid.org/parietal.html

And if you look at string theory, it says that EVERYTHING is basically made up of open and closed strings of vibrating energy.

Now about astral projecting. What you do to astral project, is to trick your body to fall asleep, while keeping your mind awake. This is very hard, and like everything, it takes practice to get good at. Once you can feel your energy centers easily, then you can astral project even easier. I'm not going to go into the details of how you do this yet, b/c it will make this post even longer, and I'm getting kinda tired of typing right now. But basically it's like your meditating, but to the extreme, if that makes sense.

I believe that most natural psychedelic drugs, can show you or throw you(in the case of dmt and salvia) into this astral realm, but w/ drugs it's way harder to control things. I've never done DMT or salvia, but from all the reports I've read on erowid.com, and some of things mentioned in Dr. Rick Strassman's book (DMT: the spirit molecule), they all seem to describe things found or seen in the Astral Realm. And the reports of mushrooms and peyote, describing the feeling of oneness, can also be felt in the astral realm.

When you astral project, you leave your body like this:



And you can travel to the higher realms. We right now, are on the physical, which is one of the lowest.



Everytime you sleep, you visit some of these planes in your dreams. This is another reason why sleep is so vital. It connects you back to "cosmic energy" to re-energize you.

Now, I know a lot of this sounds very very out there. But just don't dismiss it as 100% absolute bullshit, just b/c you haven't experience this. Remember how some of you (if not most), were brainwashed by the gov't to think that marijuana is some horrible drug? Well once you experience it, you realize that that propaganda is b.s., and marijuana is actually pretty damn awesome. Well don't knock it, until you've done it. And being mentally open minded about all of this, is also key.

There are also many buddishts, monks, hindu's, etc that actually teach this stuff too. They might use different terms than me, but they still teach/practice this same stuff. Actually a friend of mine is Hindu, and reading about his religion and practices got me into this whole thing. I just don't believe that one needs to follow a certain religion, b/c true knowledge is found w/in yourself, and you know yourself the best, so you are your best teacher. Remember the old saying, "know thyself"? This is exactly what it is talking about.

Here is an India Yogi, who went into this deep state of meditation (or astral projection), and stayed under water for 4 days, while in this state. There were thousands of people there watching all of this, and it was even reported by CNN World News.

http://indiatravelogue.com/pass/spec/refl7.html

So if you are still with me on this, the greatest thing a person can learn from practicing these things, is to see that there is so much more than what most people perceive to be real. Our physical bodies are just a temple for our energy, or soul (if you wanna call it that), and when we die, only our physical bodies 'die'.

If you want to read more about this, I would recommend reading "Astral Dynamics" By Robert Bruce. Read some of the reviews about this book too. http://www.amazon.com/Astral-Dynamic...0256142&sr=8-1

I hope by me posting this, some of you will be interested in this stuff and will go out and give this a try. There are probably several things I've left out, but this will atleast give you the gist of things.

[Smigs]

Absolute excellennt post. I believe all this. Although, im sure most users on this forum, will rule this out.

[Azimuthal]

loved it
don't know what to add yet:0

[ElectricJW]

Originally Posted by Smigs

Absolute excellennt post. I believe all this. Although, im sure most users on this forum, will rule this out.

It's good to see that the first response was a good one.

So you say believe this, but have you experienced any of it? Ever since I've found out and experienced this stuff, I just want to tell everyone I know, but I've only told a couple of my close friends, b/c I just feel that too many people will dismiss this and forever think of me as being a lunatic

I forgot to add that my Hindu friend said that one of the main gods, Krishna (I think this is the right one, not 100% sure) gave marijuana to earth as a gift to help deal with everyday stress and for pleasure. I certainly view marijuana as a gift from 'god'.

[Maitereya]

excelent post. ill read the links eventually.

chakras are neat, i use them when i meditate heavily. or when i play around with mantras. different mantras trigger different chakras, i dont know if thats written anywhere its just an observation.

astral projection i choose to stay away from, ive heard bad stories plus its annoying to practice.

[cannabis]

It's obvious that there is more to life than physical and mental boundaries. I remember learning about the third eye part of the brain but was never able to fully grasp it...
I'm not sure whether or not I believe astral projection is possible but if it is I'd bet it'd be sick, and I've heard some crazy stuff about DMT and how it's similar to what your brain produces when you sleep.

nice post tho I'll throw you some rep

[Durchii]

Great post!

Astral projection is something I tossed around half-hazardly when I was a young teenager just for the sake of finding a means to transcend the monotony of day to day living, but nowadays it tends to be a more focused experience that occurs every so often in my sleep. I've always given thought as to whether I was having random psychotic illucidations or full blown astral experiences but that always threw me off kilter.. regardless, I take what I can from these experiences (be they man made or spiritual in nature) and move on with the whole 'day to day living crap' as my friend Matt liked to say.

Best way to do it, if you ask me.

[MelT]

The 'tickling sensations' are related to what we buddhists call 'Blisses' and can grow until you can trigger an instant, deep rush of pleasure using them. After a while you can extend these into being semi-permanent states. Buddhism doesn't teach anything about astral projection or believe in it, but chakras, certainly. They do work if you know how to use them. If I get a chance I'll post some exercises with them that will raise blisses with a bit of practice.

Good post.


MelT

[shakemytrees]

It really helps out a lot to meditate, If nothing more than to recharge you batteries.

Although I never practiced it, Astral projection is something I have been looking at.

[Rasta_Man]

Yet there is no evidence....

[Mr.GoodStuff]

Oh man, not the evidence Nazi! Duck and cover! Hide your theories!

The "blisses" as Melt put it are evidence enough for me but that's subjective, oh well. Can't share it...

[Maitereya]

classic rasta man.

i cant prove it but i know a boner in sweat pants when i see one.

[Mr.GoodStuff]

He's got a point with it, without evidence we can't show him what we are talking about. So to him it's like it doesn't exist.

I have no idea if it's only an experience you can have or if it's something you can prove though.

I can't prove what I dream about but I could tell you what happened

Have you ever felt these "blisses" before Rasta? Do you call them something else or classify it differently? Perhaps the thread is just a misnomer when it comes to everyone understanding it the way it is intended?

[cannabis]

Originally Posted by Rasta_Man

Yet there is no evidence....

exactly what evidence would you need to convince you? wikipedia claiming that back in 1856 some guy astral projected and wrote a study on it and experiments suggested it can happen? How would empirical evidence relate to this?

Originally Posted by ElectricJW

Here is an India Yogi, who went into this deep state of meditation (or astral projection), and stayed under water for 4 days, while in this state. There were thousands of people there watching all of this, and it was even reported by CNN World News.

http://indiatravelogue.com/pass/spec/refl7.html

You don't consider that to be a type of evidence and reason to consider the acts are possible?

[TheRoeBiz]

Originally Posted by Rasta_Man

Yet there is no evidence....

Now, just saying there isn't any evidence doesn't seem quite fair, although I get what your saying. Remember that story I posted about coming outside my body during a meditation exercise, that was me trying to 'astral project'. I felt a tear at my body and I started floating up above my body like I was on a cross. It was a unique hallucination, more real then any drug I've ever tired.

Having experienced the state of consciousness I can understand why some would dedicate their life to it. I, however, don't believe I went outside my body, no offense to the OP, I believe I went into some other mental state. The mind is an amazing thing to explore and everyone should spend some portion of their lives doing just that, in the end it's all you have.