Humans

[g0pher]

HUMANS
1.We are born
2.We learn to trust our parents
3.We go to school for about 18 years (assuming you take 4 years of college)
4.After college, we find a job
5.We make money, buy a house, get a car and any other wanted items
6.We get married, have children
7.We get old, retire from our job
8.Write our will
9.Die
10.I just summed up the idle life for a human in less then 10 steps. (Unless there is a life after the "physical" one.)

We are very lucky to be humans. You could have been a dog, cat, horse, moose etc. but you aren't. You are reading this right now and understanding it because we are the all power of the world (we control almost all other living things).Is that good or bad? We are one of the smartest life forms on Earth and we take that for granted. If you were a dog, you might be living with a human, but to you as the dog, that is normal, you don't know another way of living. You recognize the human that takes care of you as your master. You do what they say and you get fed . Your whole life rests upon that one human that feeds you, the rest of the time you sleep while that human goes to work, to get money, to feed you. Which is better - A could be short, could be long life that is exciting (no human master) or an almost guaranteed long life that is boring? (human master)

We, as humans, have the could be short, could be long life that is “exciting.” Every other species on Earth thinks about survival all the time, they are always hungry. Humans eat what and when they want. We have lost the sense of survival. Now we make games and other fun stuff to do, we go to work or school. We fill the gaps of the stuff we lost (survival) with something artificial. That is why we have an economy. We get bored, go to work, get money, and help the economy. If nature helped the animals evolve along with us, we wouldn’t be able to kill them as easily. That gives us more sense of survival, we don’t need money as bad, and games are lost. Everything we have is not because we are smart; it is because nature is “stupid.” We are stupid when it comes to nature. We have lost a lot of our instincts we use to have before we were “smart.” We destroy nature and its creatures whenever we want. Dinosaurs were once the rulers of the Earth, and nature wise, they were infinitely smarter then us, but that is because they had better instincts. They know what to do, they didn’t question things, and they weren’t a threat to themselves. Their way of “exciting” was to stay alive as long as they could, even though they would all die sooner or later. Humans from of “exciting” is going to a friends house, to an amusement park, and even killing other humans. Now the question is not only an “exciting” life but, which is better – An intelligent life and understanding and worrying about things that we “shouldn’t” know, or a fun, ignorant life? (Ignorance is bliss.)

If there is no God and no afterlife then when we die, there will be nothing. Most people think of nothing as black. The thing is, however, there will be no black. You won’t see, feel, taste, smell, or hear anything. You won’t remember, move or even think. You aren’t there, you are nowhere. You won’t remember your life, or even being “there,” because you will have no memory, and the past IS your memory. So, if there is no god or any life stage after this one, we will live all of eternity for the smallest second. Everything we do, is a chain-reaction to nothing.


From the time that we are born, to the time we die, one thing happens, we help the economy. The things that we do have the tiniest effect in the future (there are some exceptions). The only thing humans are good for is to learn, teach, and help this "pointless creation." Not only "what is the meaning of life?" but "what is the meaning of the universe?"

So what do you guys think?

[Snaffle]

Brillant is what I think. It's really hard to describe life. I think about this kind of stuff daily. Really what is the point of life?

[dynasty]

Originally Posted by Snaffle

Brillant is what I think. It's really hard to describe life. I think about this kind of stuff daily. Really what is the point of life?

To ask what is the point implies that life is a line segment, for points make up a line segment and lines intersect at a point. I like to look at life as one of many planes that intersect not at a point but rather an edge. In other words lines intersect at a point but planes intersect at a line.

Fuck, I have no idea what tangent I was going on about, or even what the point is (haha pun).

I'm too high, I'll revisit this later.

[g0pher]

Originally Posted by dynasty

To ask what is the point implies that life is a line segment, for points make up a line segment and lines intersect at a point. I like to look at life as one of many planes that intersect not at a point but rather an edge. In other words lines intersect at a point but planes intersect at a line.

Fuck, I have no idea what tangent I was going on about, or even what the point is (haha pun).

I'm too high, I'll revisit this later.

What is described as a point is not the point that is a geometric element that has a position with no extension defined by its coordinates, or even an instant or dot of time; "at that point I had to leave", But as a brief version of the essential meaning of something; "get to the point"; "he missed the point of the joke"; etc. this is the question to the "point" of life.

I do get what your're saying about intersecting line segments at a point, Somehow lately, i've been seeing like everything is connected, everything has a pattern , of negatives and positives which make up the essence of a point, everything seems- so much like random occurances of unpredictable chance and events, but moreso planned and unchaotic occurances of greater connected patterns, a set of preset checkpoints and ordinates of chance, change, motive, action, event, and outcome, which all seem to be subjects of random probability between checkpoints of predetermined actions, ie. it was pre-planned by chance for you to receive a car after exactly 5 years, inbetween the point of plan and outcome (destiny & fate?) you go through some shit absent of fate, where choices and will are your own, - but you eventually still get to the predertermined checkpoints.

There must be some kind of connecting pattern, a wave or field , our lives are a fuel of a biological product- just like the universe, so there must be some kind of field..

[g0pher]

Billions and billions of people go through this world without really having much impact. What *is* the point, really? The most we can ever do here would be to annihilate the ecosystem of this planet, a tiny part of the Universe. In the grand works of the cosmos, nothing we humans can do can ever really make a huge physical difference, at least not at this point in our civilization.

That's why I feel it's important, above all things, to think: write, draw, postulate, paint, explore, discover. Things which are not physically tied down transcend those limits placed on things that are ...

[chiefMOJOrisin]

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We are very lucky to be humans. You could have been a dog, cat, horse, moose etc. but you aren't. You are reading this right now and understanding it because we are the all power of the world (we control almost all other living things).Is that good or bad? We are one of the smartest life forms on Earth and we take that for granted. [quote]

we are lucky to be humans..... not because we 'control' all other species. and not because we are better than other species. but because we can say, proudly, that we are the perfection of evolution. we are lucky to be the 'top species'... but thats it.

We absolutly are one of the, if not the smartest species on the planet. and we do take that for granted. we take for granted the millions of years that our ancestors struggled to survive. we take for granted the mountains of data that proves we were all once (and still are) primates, underground mammals hiding from dinosaurs, fish moving to land, microbial life forms, atoms and stardust.

we just live our ignorant and money driven lives because. because why??? because our parents did?? and their parents and theirs?? life should be much more simple. that is why, personally, i don't think humans are all that. I envy the lion who doesn't have to worry about making bill payments. all he worries about is his next meal and continuing the legacy of his pride, and ultimatly his species.

humans didn't get where we are today by buying off all the land and stripping its resources bare. we didnt get where we are today by having more money or material possesions than our neighbor. we got where we are today by doing what is instinctually programmed in our brains. eating and mating. fighting and conquering is a groomed trait. monkeys fight othe monkey clans too..... but they don't destroy entire cities.

neanderthals were once at the top of the evolutionary ladder.....during their time they were the most highly evolved, smartest and best adapted species. until our closest relatives, cromagnum man came along and took the top spot. and before neandethals there was a different 'top species'.... and so on back through history.

humans have been around for a VERY short period of time. compared to when species started flurishing on earth... we have only been around for a blink of an eye. and we still have been able to desimate many species and bring our planet to a point where is easier to say the planet is endangered....instead of some species. having said that..... i am quite embarrased to be a human. out of the millions of species there are now.....and the millions there have been.....yea we are the smartest and most evolved...... but we dont know how to live in harmony with our mother planet like EVERY OTHER species does. in the search for a cheaper energy source...or for the best place to put up a hotel....we (humans) have been able to bring our world to its knees. i am not proud at all to be of the same species that single handedly ruined the world. being as advenced as we are... we should be able to live on peacefully. like the billions of species have before us and are doing now. we are just making it harder for them. the earth is roughly 4.5 BILLION years old. and humans have kicked its ass in less than 2000. ancient egyptians didn't pour toxic waste into the rivers.

i'm concerned for our future. what will the next 'top species' bring?? the end of the world most likely.