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Old 07-13-2007, 07:17 AM
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Errors in Time?

I've been wondering this for a while...

Do you suppose time itself can somehow at a point 'stand still' and pause? Do you think Is it even possible for time to freeze and skip in a way? If you think about it if there were errors in time how would anyone possibly even be able to notice? Is it time that makes us age or is it our bodies that age regardless of whether time is in our dimension? Even If time effects age if time froze for a couple seconds or even days no one would be able to tell...

To consider this I think you have to ask yourself what exactly time is. But time is prolly one of the hardest words to put in terms there is.
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1. the system of those sequential relations that any event has to any other, as past, present, or future; indefinite and continuous duration regarded as that in which events succeed one another.
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Some refer to it as a structure of the universe itself...



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But time is so much more than that ...It's not something you read about we know about time because we experience it every single second of our lives. It's the only thing really we can comprehend as being infinite. They say we live in a 3 dimensional world but time is called the 4th dimension and we need it on order to maintain an idea of duration.


So my question is do you think errors can happen in time?...I think it's possible and maybe would even help explain the idea of déjà vu. I for one have felt like I was goin through deja vu a bunch of times. What else could explain the issue other than errors in time? Sure there are laws of physics but The universe isn't perfect. Is It possible for pauses or mistakes to be existent in time?
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What if there were skips in time, but only a select group could know what happened while time skipped? What if time was at a different rate for different types of people? I think we got a good idea for a book laid out!
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Old 07-13-2007, 07:55 AM
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time is just the recorded of things that happend. u cant move threw it and relive it.
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time doesn't exist but as a name for a axis, used in conjunction with height width and depth, onto which we can place objects, locations and events. the need for this coordinate system arose as soon as reality expanded from a single point outward into all directions, something of volume. But its only a label for our own intellectual convenience. blah blah blah....

a little sophomoric, the questions about time, don't ya think? i mean theres only been at least 12000 years of thought put into it already and there can be no answer to the nature of time until science can manipulate it, if thats at all possible. philosophy can't answer this question, so its not even worth the effort when theres many important and tangible things that need cogitating.

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Of the four known dimensions, time certainly is the least understood. By definition a unit of time is a fraction of the speed of light. As such, the one is dependent upon the other. Gets very circular very fast. If time speeded up, slowed down, or even stopped to start again later, we'd never now.

So far we've just postulated that time is well behaved, much like the other three dimensions is.

I see time as the crest of a wave. Everything behind the crest is what made the crest. Everything in front of the crest, will become the future crest. As such, time expands, and will after a while slow down, to ultimately, well, nothing.

This follows from the fact that the universe is accelerating in it's expansion, eventually to tear itself apart.

And perhaps, behind us, another big-bang have already happened. Creating another ripple of time and space. Like several waves in a pond. We exist on one of those ripples. On one of those crests.
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there can be no skip in time or anything regarding time in any way. time is made up, there is no suck thing as time. "time" as we know it is split up into what we know as days, and months and such which are based on the sun and the moon so unless they stopped moving for a period then "time" can never change
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Time is a question ive always pondered about, i mean is it constant? or is it subject to the velocity of fast moving objects? i'm having a real problem with removing myself from the concept that time is a fixed constant, i mean what does vast ammounts of velocity in a lower dimension have to do with the alteration of dimenion of time? i mean if time is a higher dimensin than ours then why must it be under subjection by the speed of motion of fast moving objects in 3 dimensional space? i think if thats the case then we should make it part of the 3 dimensional space, - higher dimensional objects have much more superior mathematical and geometrically symetrial voids than lower ones. so how can time be subject to alteration by a vibration of motion in a lower dimension? unless the force which is putting it under subjection is another dimension of its own.
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how can time stop because of vast ammounts of speed? the observer will only be moving so fast in his 3 dimensional space and not a higher, why should time 'freeze' because of the motion of a lower dimensional object? it feels like time should still be ticking surely but the observer should only be moving in 'his' own illusion of time in his 3 dimensional vaccuum. i dont know, its just a hard concept to grasp
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I've got a friend who said she smoked some really potent bud for her first time out of a big bong, and she watched the digital clock stand still for a long long time and then it jumped 6 minutes forward, like time had stopped for a while then caught up to date. I thought it was interesting.

I think that it is also possible for people who are determined enough to be able to control their perception of time, to slow time, etc. etc. But I'm not too sure overall.
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I've got a friend who said she smoked some really potent bud for her first time out of a big bong, and she watched the digital clock stand still for a long long time and then it jumped 6 minutes forward, like time had stopped for a while then caught up to date. I thought it was interesting.
Her clock was probably broken or she was really high and THOUGHT it seemed like that.
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Watch more Star trek, The next generation, and voyager delt a lot with time and such. It seemed like every other episode there was some sort of tempreal annomly that froze tie in a place or soething. Its a fictional show I know, but they have an interesting take on things.
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Phil Dick wrote about time, and the illusion thereof many times. Read this speech: http://deoxy.org/pkd_how2build.htm
Takes a while, but it's a great read.

While I'm whoring Dick, these two touch on the relation between our perception of time and sanity.

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I guess I didn't explained my question and the point I was getting at very well..

What I was getting at is do you think it's possible for everything in our dimension (including time) to somehow freeze at the same moment? Because If you think about It, If that was somehow conceivable there would be no real way to realize that it happened. And how do we go about proving that it hasn't happened before?


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No those are what we know of as that make up our 3 dimensional environment, time is it's own dimension...It's the 4th.


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12000 years?
and so what? I think the idea that we comprehend and understand everything there is to know about time itself can be considered sophomoric...

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philosophy can't answer this question, so its not even worth the effort when theres many important and tangible things that need cogitating.
I'm not looking for a complete answer, I was asking for opinions. The inquiry of others to logically investigate the principals of reality, cause and knowledge, isn't that what basically makes up philosophy?
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