The Collapse of Intelligent Design

Discussion in 'Philosophy' started by Liquidtruth, Apr 3, 2007.

  1. I support Intelligent Design... Just not, uh... Intelligent Design/Creationism. :p (hope that makes sense)

    Anyway, this is rather long, nearly two hours, it is interesting but probably old news to most. Just thought I would share.
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  2. Great video. I'm still watching it, but it's just brilliant. It would be nice to watch a creationist respond to this.
     
  3. They have, look, the peanutbutter argument :D

    http://www.glumbert.com/media/peanutbutter

    Apparantly, these people have not ever heard of the strawman fallacy. Or payed any attention at College if they even went there that is.
     
  4. Great watch, it actually captured me attention all the way through.
     
  5. Then you haven't heard this
     
  6. Okay, that was really fucking stupid as well. :)

    EDIT: It actually makes me sad that people would make that kind of argument and expect it to be impressive or logical in anyway. But now I am trying to find the whole thing so I can watch each painful moment. :p

    So far no luck.
     
  7. I dont know if there's a whole one, I think it's just a brief segment off Kirk Cameron's show, unless that's what youre looking for. You could try his website then.
     
  8. You know, the fun thing about the "Banana argument" (no, it's not new) is that bananas did not naturally evolve. It is bred the way they are by humans. The original banana tree had far smalll and much more inpractical fruit.

    Much like say wolves were domesticated into dogs. Or modern wheat having very little to do with it's original grass-like ancestor. All human developed lifeform, to suit human needs.
     
  9. I like this video response to the "Banana argument". :)

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    And another video just for fun.

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  10. Haha, I enjoyed those two videos very much, thank you, LT.
     
  11. I would love to meet someone that takes Bill O'reilly seriously.
     
  12. Here you go.

    Luckily I think that population is vulnerable to our Northern winters and have remained pretty well free of them.
     

  13. It is here, just quieter because the population does not stand for it. The PC party = Canada's Religious Right. :p

     
  14. Yet they're the only ones who know their ass from their head.

    It's depressing.

    The intelligent ones are totally vacant as far as practical political policies are concerned (see NDP)
     
  15. All I see the PCs doing is selling us out one tiny bit at a time. Their policies are rather silly, as is their approach to many issues. When ever the PCs are in charge, I lose all trust in Government. I probably would have joined the Military had it not been for them. I mean, if you want to sell Canada to the States, vote PC. But! This has gone off topic, lol, if you would like to continue a debate on the political situation of Canada we should start another thread. :)
     
  16. I think we can at least agree that the liberals are bunch of spineless lying scum bags.
     
  17. Yes. Though, I would say the same for any and every political party that I have ever seen or heard of. Well, the ones who are given the chance to govern at any rate.

    On topic:

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  18. The more I watch the debate the more I'm convinced it's actually both sides together that are correct.

    It's intellegent design, yet with an un-involved evolution-based cycle. (at least on Earth)

    It was set up for us to have a freedom of thought, instead of having to believe a certain way because of proof that can't be interpreted in different ways.

    To me, it is the most brilliant design if it was developed for change. (and variety too, randomness out of order)

    If eternity exists because of the laws of physics holding true, then surely entropy would have reached it's peak at some point. In order to change the universe would have to either spontaneously change it's course from entropy to explosion, totally contradicting the nature of the force in the process.

    Everything is slowly returning to equal vibration, then suddenly... Boom?

    Sounds to me like a total contradiction, so it's either intellegence or total random contradiction on a cosmic level. Personally I think it's both together, it's just our perception that hides the truth from us.

    We are all made up of the same material, it is only our perceptions that allows us to see anything different.

    Look at the back of your hand under a powerful microscope, then look at mine. Tell me what you would see.
     

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