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pelorico · #16 (**permalink**) 12-19-2002, 08:33 AM

An awareness that there are underlying truths beneath every problem, is necessary to be at peace. Not knowing what the truth is, is not to be feared, because this is a mysterious world and many things are extremely difficult to understand and take time, but is not to be feared however long it may take, because you are worthy enough to understand truth, no matter how long it takes or however it appears. Recognition of truth stems from compromises and well nurtured ideas that lead to a foundation for your own beliefs. I have many many flaws, but I look forward to understanding them one day, even if I'm not ready and have suppressed some of them. Because of overcoming several obstacles with this philosophy, however, it has given me that much more motivation to stay more open in order to gain more consciousness and basically feel more alive. And I shit you not. I see this happening more and more with other people and with all of the information available, I feel our society is already transforming in order to meet the challenges of the times. And many people must see that the awareness each individual has with themself will go a long way towards improving the world because wars can't anymore. I think that will be fully realized someday because things have to reverse or we will destroy our environment or ourselves. I'm pretty optimistic about that, and I guess that is the overall message in my own words, through my own experiences. So take it for what it's worth.

pelorico · #17 (**permalink**) 12-21-2002, 01:15 AM

Thanks for all of that Tweetfreak.

I am still insecure about alot that I have written for several reasons.

1. I don't want to come off as self righteous. Like I know the answers, because I clearly don't.
2. This really just turned into me writing down as I searched for myself. I don't think that is necessarily bad, but it was not the purpose of this topic, but it seemed to gravitate to that because I was looking for some type of forum to discuss things and put down some of my conclusions in words.
3. And I'm really worried whether it is okay to discuss these things period, because it usually makes everything awkward and maybe that is because everyone has their own life and has to think for themselves without cluttering their minds with other people's beliefs, in order to create their own.

Whichever, it has been said, and should be taken for what its worth. I'll be wiser about how I express stuff like this in the future and be more aware of how other people may interpret things. Please know that I suffer and have suffered. Whatever beliefs I have constructed through suffering in order to relieve it, I want to share to give others a shortcut. But in reality, we are all different and take a different road and take different amounts of time to get there. But for whatever pain you have, just know there is an answer in the pain that you will be able to find if you just decide to figure it out. And the more that you do that, you get hooked on it, and it is something that I will always seriously consider when I find myself in a rut. Nobody deserves to suffer. You allow it until you are able to understand it fully, and shouldn't feel guilty if you aren't able to understand it yet. I don't care if I have another thought. I won't come back here because it is like quick sand. I want to say what I truly feel, but I often find that I only felt it when I wrote it, so it isn't me. It is only a stream of thoughts that I don't want to define me and its hard to just turn your back to it when that is what appears to be happening. Its just thoughts at one time in my life. That's all. Take it for what it's worth.

ChiLLZ · #18 (**permalink**) 12-21-2002, 02:08 AM

pelorico..
i think i might understand what you're saying. you find yourself talking about one thing, and as thoughts flow through you, you find that you cant even write fast enough to put all your thoughts into english. it's really an amazing feeling to see all the thhings that were flying around your head finally written down and looking logical. you think you have a thought to write, but it ends up being so much more when put into words, which must tell you the kind of things that we humans are capable of deducing. i found myself doing the same thing when i was talking to a teenager that was good in school but very insecure and had just turned to alcohal, drugs and cigarrettes. i started off explaining why she was betraying herself but i ended up talking forever, and when i was done it made perfect sense. i think it comes from our natural good will. because we had to go through so much pain to come to these conclusions, we just want to try to explain it all to people so they dont go through the same thing. i think that if we all shared these things we go through in our minds then we would be much healthier, and happier people. tell me if you agree, because that isnt the whole of what's on my mind but if it just sounds like gibberish i dont want to make a fool of myself

pelorico · #19 (**permalink**) 12-21-2002, 01:23 PM

I had to reply because bringing up your story helps me see maybe why I am doing this in the first place.

I own a small lawn service. I had hired a 17 year old that had slowly proven himself to be the best helper I had ever used. I stuck with him because he displayed the most honest and hardworking ethic I had ever seen. I now feel personally responsible for him because I am the only person he is around that has knows anything about anything. His Mom and Dad were in prison for alot of his life for everything under the sun. His Mom remains on Heroin and so does her live in boyfriend. His Dad disowned him and basically kicked him out of the house. I chill out at his duplex and hang around with him sometimes if I have nothing else to do because we really get along. And there is no other conclusion, that he has no guidance and will never receive the right guidance, but the person(me) he spends most of his time with knows better but didn't want to get into this because work is work and his business is his own. But we started playing darts together and doing petty things now that it is winter and there isn't much work. I have slowly seen direct correlations between his parents and his actions he shows outside of work.(alcohol abuse, frivolous tatoos, no personal responsibility, HITTING HIS DOG, calling his 13 year old sister a bitch with no hesitation, beating the fuck out of his best friend etc. etc. etc. When I work, I work with a sense of duty and my service provides structure and honest work for him. Something he has clinged onto. I respect the good honest work ethic in him, but he continues to self destruct away from work and I know exactly why he does those things and could find a way to address it. I put myself in his shoes. I don't know where to start with him because on a consciousness level, we are at opposite ends of the spectrum and anything I say tends to go straight over his head and not absorbed. But I know he listens and wants better. I feel his pain and don't see clearly because I had suppressed alot of the things that had gotten me the good things in life. Now I revisit them because I need to find answers to help him out and relieve the overwhelming sense of anxiety I have when I think about all of the things he may doing that could any day ruin his life completely. I understand business is business and I treated it that way while I was focused on getting through the season. But now that we aren't working all of the time and I keep catching glimpses of his life and understanding why he suffers, aren't I responsible to some extent? I just don't know where to start because my understanding level almost doesn't go deep enough to deal with issues that are much deeper than I had ever had to confront for myself, but am now searching for him and because I had overcome degrees of parental abuse, I know it can be applied to a greater extent if I just keep following the path. I will not give up until what I say actually brings about a real change in the things that cause him to self destruct, it is just too much a part of his being to make a dent though. That's another part of this whole thing, and subconsciously it may be the main reason I am making this sincere effort again and not thinking I would ever need to again. I am trying to reinforce my own beliefs that I had lost sight of and extend them further in order to find a way to communicate on his level. I know that he still wants to beat the hell out of the guy living with his Mom. He would deal drugs if he wasn't able to make money with me. All he knows how to do is mow yards. The only skill he has ever known, and by using that and providing him with respect and an opportunity to make an honest living, he was able to buy alot. But he would blow $500 a week on bullshit. Over and over, not attempting to save up money for anything. But when he had $15 to make it to the end of the week, he had no problem and inflcted suffering on himself by not eating and not paying off more important things. If I don't give him some answers or guide him, he will end up in prison and doing harder drugs. His path is headed directly there. Unless, someone who knows better doesn't allow it to happen. I will find a way and I will continue to try to start on some level, but it is finding that breaking level with him that I don't understand because I had never gone through the depth of pain that he experiences. I came to the conclusion last night that I have to be at peace with the fact that I have tried to help and will only continue to help. I can't do more than that. I know he could, one day, understand himself as well as, or atleast much better, as I do and break through barriers and rejoice like I have, and turn his life around, but the starting point is what continues to allude me. Until then, I have no choice but to keep searching until it becomes clear what I need to say or do in order to get things across to him. Yesterday, I saw him hit his dog viciously and I told him bluntly to never do that again. And I won't tolerate it. But I know he will do it again, just not in my presence. I need a better understanding of how I should approach this. I think I'm close, but I'm not there. I need to be wise and very well thought out about this. I can't just make sense for myself because if it doesn't make sense to him, then the cycle will continue and it would devestate me to know that I could have done something and I wasn't responsible enough to help. It is really sad, and I just want to cry because I feel I won't be able to do enough before he gets locked up or something horrible happens. It is really unnerving and hard to just forget. I have to facilitate a change somehow and it needs to happen soon. I know that. It's codependancy and it is understandable. I just don't understand all of it yet. Or maybe I do, I just don't know how to clearly explain it in his terms. What do I do?

pelorico · #20 (**permalink**) 12-21-2002, 03:58 PM

Lets just say I have a new outlook now. And a plan. And I have to start on it beginning now. You people are too good to read any of this. Please keep searching for the truth in the best way you can without giving up. You won't go crazy. I only say that because I feel that. And if I can produce results maybe I can lead by example in order to prove that we are not living in a hopeless world with hopeless people that are all going to go to hell. There is real pain on earth right now that needs to be healed in order for us/you/me/the world to survive. Don't fucking give up. We are all going to get there if we don't destroy the environment, get hit by a meteor, or get nuked in the process. It will take time. I feel it. We don't have any more wars to fight, this is the new mission. Ourselves. All of these thoughts have ended with this and I don't need to go back over all of that shit. You have to start only where YOU are at, but you have to start or atleast believe that you can start. That belief will make you see that what you thought were coincidences had truth in them that needed to be unlocked. We haven't gotten this far for no reason!!!!!!!!!! And we aren't where we are at and feel what we feel for no reason. There are underlying truths that must be explored and doors will open. Take my word for it, please.

pelorico · #21 (**permalink**) 12-23-2002, 09:35 AM

It's almost like we have to look at ourselves in order to help other people and if you look hard enough and don't ignore what you feel, then you will find answers that will help you and help others. The ultimate joy is helping others, and you can't do it fully until you help yourself first. But you can only do it in a way you know how. You have to stay in your lane. That is another thing I learned today more clearly when I watched a black woman preacher describe alot of the things I was thinking in such a clear way. I cried like crazy and I taped it. I can never fall back below those beliefs because all of that gave me peace you could not imagine. I feel I've gone through so much in my young life, but it only helped me get closer to truth and God. I'm still undecided about the whole Jesus deal, though. I do believe in the concept and it makes a ton of sense. I know that there isn't anything wrong in paying attention to any religion because each one has tons of truth in them because they have helped humanity survive to this day. That can't be denied. And is so underestimated.

I don't want to be a one hit wonder. I want this to last until the end of my being, learning more things along the way with the firm belief that helping yourself in order to help others is an endless cycle of fulfillment that can't be bought. But can be facilitated correctly if you take the reponsbility to live your life based on the things you have learned through searching your soul and overcoming your own suffering. This world will not seem so mysterious once you solve the biggest mysteries that have put you where you are in life. If you know, then you will be able to shape your future and help change the world. That's my most basic truth. And I'm not afraid to end right there.

SmOkEy_McPoT_85 · #22 (**permalink**) 01-16-2003, 06:34 AM

i finally finished reading celestine...DAMN it's good.
i would go on about the book in detail but that would just add 2 or 3 more pages to this thread, but i gotta say that i must have looked at the plant for something like 2 hours after reading the book(while i was roasted), trying to see the energy fields, not to mention the look i gave my boss after i thaught i saw a glow behind his right ear, you can just guess the outcome of that. But anywhich way, kudos to the author of this mind _altering read and also for giving a stoner something to think about while i'm ripped(or straight) other than "darn my mouth is dry".

P.S. a BIG thumbs up to her pinkfloydness for the book recommendation.

pelorico · #23 (**permalink**) 01-17-2003, 06:29 AM

Amanita! Right on! When did you read it, and did you feel the same way before you did?

ChiLLZ · #24 (**permalink**) 01-26-2003, 01:37 AM

im reading the celestine prophecy right now and im on the 4th chapter(or insight, whichever you prefer) and im just curious if it's based on an actual manuscript that was discovered or one person's opinion about the world... i've only gone partway through, but everything i've read so far -except for being able to see the energy feilds- is along the same wavelength i've been thinking for awhile. and if this is real, is anybody on here able to see the energy feilds it talks about??

SmOkEy_McPoT_85 · #25 (**permalink**) 02-06-2003, 12:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ChiLLZ
im reading the celestine prophecy right now and im on the 4th chapter(or insight, whichever you prefer) and im just curious if it's based on an actual manuscript that was discovered or one person's opinion about the world... i've only gone partway through, but everything i've read so far -except for being able to see the energy feilds- is along the same wavelength i've been thinking for awhile. and if this is real, is anybody on here able to see the energy feilds it talks about??

I don't think you could actually say if it is or not based upon actual events, to me personally, it didn't really matter because it opened me up so much, i can't really put it into words what effect it had on me.

So, umm, i guess what i'm trying to say is that when you finish the book the last thing you will be concerned with is it's ficticious or non-ficticious manner, simply because of the fact that the book works on two levels:
...The story line, which is simply there to put suspence and anticipation into the equasion(or at least i thaught).

...Then there are the insights, which are integrated into the story line to give it a more reader friendly...well...read.

Yeh, so, thats what i think, but anyway, read the book and give us your interpretation dude!

Digit · #26 (**permalink**) 08-26-2006, 03:34 PM

beeeeeeeeeeeeeeump!

(didn't read the whole thread... just wanted to bump it)

chronictoker · #27 (**permalink**) 08-26-2006, 04:13 PM

sounds like something I wouldn't read. Oh wells.

Maitereya · #28 (**permalink**) 08-26-2006, 09:30 PM

Quote:

beeeeeeeeeeeeeeump!

(didn't read the whole thread... just wanted to bump it)

i read this book a while ago. its very good, reminds me of reiki. although its not written that great, the message behind it is awesome. i recomed this book to anyone.

Opivy · #29 (**permalink**) 08-26-2006, 09:51 PM

I've been meaning to pick this up for a while. Just recently I got Dianetics though... lol

Digit · #30 (**permalink**) 08-28-2006, 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chronictoker

sounds like something I wouldn't read. Oh wells.

its ok... it's been made int oa film. out soon.

Quote:

Originally Posted by opivy

I've been meaning to pick this up for a while. Just recently I got Dianetics though... lol

thats the book scientologists hark on about, using hypnotic trigger phrases and technical sounding lingo to sell the idea of it to other people, isnt it... always wondered how people come out the other side of reading that.

are you still you?

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#16 (permalink) 12-19-2002, 08:33 AM
pelorico Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 34	An awareness that there are underlying truths beneath every problem, is necessary to be at peace. Not knowing what the truth is, is not to be feared, because this is a mysterious world and many things are extremely difficult to understand and take time, but is not to be feared however long it may take, because you are worthy enough to understand truth, no matter how long it takes or however it appears. Recognition of truth stems from compromises and well nurtured ideas that lead to a foundation for your own beliefs. I have many many flaws, but I look forward to understanding them one day, even if I'm not ready and have suppressed some of them. Because of overcoming several obstacles with this philosophy, however, it has given me that much more motivation to stay more open in order to gain more consciousness and basically feel more alive. And I shit you not. I see this happening more and more with other people and with all of the information available, I feel our society is already transforming in order to meet the challenges of the times. And many people must see that the awareness each individual has with themself will go a long way towards improving the world because wars can't anymore. I think that will be fully realized someday because things have to reverse or we will destroy our environment or ourselves. I'm pretty optimistic about that, and I guess that is the overall message in my own words, through my own experiences. So take it for what it's worth. __________________ Birdseed or death.

#17 (permalink) 12-21-2002, 01:15 AM
pelorico Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 34	Thanks for all of that Tweetfreak. I am still insecure about alot that I have written for several reasons. 1. I don't want to come off as self righteous. Like I know the answers, because I clearly don't. 2. This really just turned into me writing down as I searched for myself. I don't think that is necessarily bad, but it was not the purpose of this topic, but it seemed to gravitate to that because I was looking for some type of forum to discuss things and put down some of my conclusions in words. 3. And I'm really worried whether it is okay to discuss these things period, because it usually makes everything awkward and maybe that is because everyone has their own life and has to think for themselves without cluttering their minds with other people's beliefs, in order to create their own. Whichever, it has been said, and should be taken for what its worth. I'll be wiser about how I express stuff like this in the future and be more aware of how other people may interpret things. Please know that I suffer and have suffered. Whatever beliefs I have constructed through suffering in order to relieve it, I want to share to give others a shortcut. But in reality, we are all different and take a different road and take different amounts of time to get there. But for whatever pain you have, just know there is an answer in the pain that you will be able to find if you just decide to figure it out. And the more that you do that, you get hooked on it, and it is something that I will always seriously consider when I find myself in a rut. Nobody deserves to suffer. You allow it until you are able to understand it fully, and shouldn't feel guilty if you aren't able to understand it yet. I don't care if I have another thought. I won't come back here because it is like quick sand. I want to say what I truly feel, but I often find that I only felt it when I wrote it, so it isn't me. It is only a stream of thoughts that I don't want to define me and its hard to just turn your back to it when that is what appears to be happening. Its just thoughts at one time in my life. That's all. Take it for what it's worth. __________________ Birdseed or death.

#18 (permalink) 12-21-2002, 02:08 AM
ChiLLZ pass dat shit left Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 303	pelorico.. i think i might understand what you're saying. you find yourself talking about one thing, and as thoughts flow through you, you find that you cant even write fast enough to put all your thoughts into english. it's really an amazing feeling to see all the thhings that were flying around your head finally written down and looking logical. you think you have a thought to write, but it ends up being so much more when put into words, which must tell you the kind of things that we humans are capable of deducing. i found myself doing the same thing when i was talking to a teenager that was good in school but very insecure and had just turned to alcohal, drugs and cigarrettes. i started off explaining why she was betraying herself but i ended up talking forever, and when i was done it made perfect sense. i think it comes from our natural good will. because we had to go through so much pain to come to these conclusions, we just want to try to explain it all to people so they dont go through the same thing. i think that if we all shared these things we go through in our minds then we would be much healthier, and happier people. tell me if you agree, because that isnt the whole of what's on my mind but if it just sounds like gibberish i dont want to make a fool of myself __________________ i dont do drugs.. i smoke weed

#19 (permalink) 12-21-2002, 01:23 PM
pelorico Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 34	yep I had to reply because bringing up your story helps me see maybe why I am doing this in the first place. I own a small lawn service. I had hired a 17 year old that had slowly proven himself to be the best helper I had ever used. I stuck with him because he displayed the most honest and hardworking ethic I had ever seen. I now feel personally responsible for him because I am the only person he is around that has knows anything about anything. His Mom and Dad were in prison for alot of his life for everything under the sun. His Mom remains on Heroin and so does her live in boyfriend. His Dad disowned him and basically kicked him out of the house. I chill out at his duplex and hang around with him sometimes if I have nothing else to do because we really get along. And there is no other conclusion, that he has no guidance and will never receive the right guidance, but the person(me) he spends most of his time with knows better but didn't want to get into this because work is work and his business is his own. But we started playing darts together and doing petty things now that it is winter and there isn't much work. I have slowly seen direct correlations between his parents and his actions he shows outside of work.(alcohol abuse, frivolous tatoos, no personal responsibility, HITTING HIS DOG, calling his 13 year old sister a bitch with no hesitation, beating the fuck out of his best friend etc. etc. etc. When I work, I work with a sense of duty and my service provides structure and honest work for him. Something he has clinged onto. I respect the good honest work ethic in him, but he continues to self destruct away from work and I know exactly why he does those things and could find a way to address it. I put myself in his shoes. I don't know where to start with him because on a consciousness level, we are at opposite ends of the spectrum and anything I say tends to go straight over his head and not absorbed. But I know he listens and wants better. I feel his pain and don't see clearly because I had suppressed alot of the things that had gotten me the good things in life. Now I revisit them because I need to find answers to help him out and relieve the overwhelming sense of anxiety I have when I think about all of the things he may doing that could any day ruin his life completely. I understand business is business and I treated it that way while I was focused on getting through the season. But now that we aren't working all of the time and I keep catching glimpses of his life and understanding why he suffers, aren't I responsible to some extent? I just don't know where to start because my understanding level almost doesn't go deep enough to deal with issues that are much deeper than I had ever had to confront for myself, but am now searching for him and because I had overcome degrees of parental abuse, I know it can be applied to a greater extent if I just keep following the path. I will not give up until what I say actually brings about a real change in the things that cause him to self destruct, it is just too much a part of his being to make a dent though. That's another part of this whole thing, and subconsciously it may be the main reason I am making this sincere effort again and not thinking I would ever need to again. I am trying to reinforce my own beliefs that I had lost sight of and extend them further in order to find a way to communicate on his level. I know that he still wants to beat the hell out of the guy living with his Mom. He would deal drugs if he wasn't able to make money with me. All he knows how to do is mow yards. The only skill he has ever known, and by using that and providing him with respect and an opportunity to make an honest living, he was able to buy alot. But he would blow $500 a week on bullshit. Over and over, not attempting to save up money for anything. But when he had $15 to make it to the end of the week, he had no problem and inflcted suffering on himself by not eating and not paying off more important things. If I don't give him some answers or guide him, he will end up in prison and doing harder drugs. His path is headed directly there. Unless, someone who knows better doesn't allow it to happen. I will find a way and I will continue to try to start on some level, but it is finding that breaking level with him that I don't understand because I had never gone through the depth of pain that he experiences. I came to the conclusion last night that I have to be at peace with the fact that I have tried to help and will only continue to help. I can't do more than that. I know he could, one day, understand himself as well as, or atleast much better, as I do and break through barriers and rejoice like I have, and turn his life around, but the starting point is what continues to allude me. Until then, I have no choice but to keep searching until it becomes clear what I need to say or do in order to get things across to him. Yesterday, I saw him hit his dog viciously and I told him bluntly to never do that again. And I won't tolerate it. But I know he will do it again, just not in my presence. I need a better understanding of how I should approach this. I think I'm close, but I'm not there. I need to be wise and very well thought out about this. I can't just make sense for myself because if it doesn't make sense to him, then the cycle will continue and it would devestate me to know that I could have done something and I wasn't responsible enough to help. It is really sad, and I just want to cry because I feel I won't be able to do enough before he gets locked up or something horrible happens. It is really unnerving and hard to just forget. I have to facilitate a change somehow and it needs to happen soon. I know that. It's codependancy and it is understandable. I just don't understand all of it yet. Or maybe I do, I just don't know how to clearly explain it in his terms. What do I do? __________________ Birdseed or death.

#20 (permalink) 12-21-2002, 03:58 PM
pelorico Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 34	Helping people through mowing Lets just say I have a new outlook now. And a plan. And I have to start on it beginning now. You people are too good to read any of this. Please keep searching for the truth in the best way you can without giving up. You won't go crazy. I only say that because I feel that. And if I can produce results maybe I can lead by example in order to prove that we are not living in a hopeless world with hopeless people that are all going to go to hell. There is real pain on earth right now that needs to be healed in order for us/you/me/the world to survive. Don't fucking give up. We are all going to get there if we don't destroy the environment, get hit by a meteor, or get nuked in the process. It will take time. I feel it. We don't have any more wars to fight, this is the new mission. Ourselves. All of these thoughts have ended with this and I don't need to go back over all of that shit. You have to start only where YOU are at, but you have to start or atleast believe that you can start. That belief will make you see that what you thought were coincidences had truth in them that needed to be unlocked. We haven't gotten this far for no reason!!!!!!!!!! And we aren't where we are at and feel what we feel for no reason. There are underlying truths that must be explored and doors will open. Take my word for it, please. __________________ Birdseed or death. Last edited by pelorico; 12-21-2002 at 04:12 PM.

#21 (permalink) 12-23-2002, 09:35 AM
pelorico Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 34	It's almost like we have to look at ourselves in order to help other people and if you look hard enough and don't ignore what you feel, then you will find answers that will help you and help others. The ultimate joy is helping others, and you can't do it fully until you help yourself first. But you can only do it in a way you know how. You have to stay in your lane. That is another thing I learned today more clearly when I watched a black woman preacher describe alot of the things I was thinking in such a clear way. I cried like crazy and I taped it. I can never fall back below those beliefs because all of that gave me peace you could not imagine. I feel I've gone through so much in my young life, but it only helped me get closer to truth and God. I'm still undecided about the whole Jesus deal, though. I do believe in the concept and it makes a ton of sense. I know that there isn't anything wrong in paying attention to any religion because each one has tons of truth in them because they have helped humanity survive to this day. That can't be denied. And is so underestimated. I don't want to be a one hit wonder. I want this to last until the end of my being, learning more things along the way with the firm belief that helping yourself in order to help others is an endless cycle of fulfillment that can't be bought. But can be facilitated correctly if you take the reponsbility to live your life based on the things you have learned through searching your soul and overcoming your own suffering. This world will not seem so mysterious once you solve the biggest mysteries that have put you where you are in life. If you know, then you will be able to shape your future and help change the world. That's my most basic truth. And I'm not afraid to end right there. __________________ Birdseed or death.

#22 (permalink) 01-16-2003, 06:34 AM
SmOkEy_McPoT_85 Toker fiend Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 33	Finally i finally finished reading celestine...DAMN it's good. i would go on about the book in detail but that would just add 2 or 3 more pages to this thread, but i gotta say that i must have looked at the plant for something like 2 hours after reading the book(while i was roasted), trying to see the energy fields, not to mention the look i gave my boss after i thaught i saw a glow behind his right ear, you can just guess the outcome of that. But anywhich way, kudos to the author of this mind _altering read and also for giving a stoner something to think about while i'm ripped(or straight) other than "darn my mouth is dry". P.S. a BIG thumbs up to her pinkfloydness for the book recommendation. __________________ ...United We're Stoned....Divided We're Busted!...:> Last edited by SmOkEy_McPoT_85; 01-16-2003 at 06:37 AM.

#23 (permalink) 01-17-2003, 06:29 AM
pelorico Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 34	Amanita!! Amanita! Right on! When did you read it, and did you feel the same way before you did? __________________ Birdseed or death.

#24 (permalink) 01-26-2003, 01:37 AM
ChiLLZ pass dat shit left Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 303	im reading the celestine prophecy right now and im on the 4th chapter(or insight, whichever you prefer) and im just curious if it's based on an actual manuscript that was discovered or one person's opinion about the world... i've only gone partway through, but everything i've read so far -except for being able to see the energy feilds- is along the same wavelength i've been thinking for awhile. and if this is real, is anybody on here able to see the energy feilds it talks about?? __________________ i dont do drugs.. i smoke weed

#26 (permalink) 08-26-2006, 03:34 PM
Digit Banned Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 7,999	beeeeeeeeeeeeeeump! (didn't read the whole thread... just wanted to bump it)

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#27 (permalink) 08-26-2006, 04:13 PM
chronictoker the doors of perception Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: California Love Posts: 2,300	sounds like something I wouldn't read. Oh wells. __________________ "Imagination will often carry us to worlds that never were. But without it we go nowhere." - Carl Sagan

#29 (permalink) 08-26-2006, 09:51 PM
Opivy Nova Police Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Upper Baboons Asshole Posts: 4,485	I've been meaning to pick this up for a while. Just recently I got Dianetics though... lol __________________ "I don' think I'll ever touch a daiquiri again..."