brownish roots

jrossc · #1 (**permalink**) 10-30-2009, 09:01 PM

Alright I'm having a pretty hard time figureing out whats going on here... at first there was a very thick white/clear slime engulfing all of my roots... so i dumped the res and sanitized it a week ago. Now the past couple days i have noticed a brown kind of slime that clumps the roots together. The roots themselves arent brown just the slime on them. I have a 25 gallon res lightproofed and all with aluminum tape. res temps are from 77-80 degrees. Im using about a 300ppm nute mix with BC grow and BC boost. (1tsp boost .5tsp grow/gal) about a drop of superthrive per gallon. I also added a tsp per gallon of H2O2 3% when i cleaned the res. But I recently learned that it dissapates fairly quickly...but my clear thick slime hasnt returned. Should I be worried? Also It should be noted that the plants seem to be doing fine from the top... no discoloration normal grow patterns...for now =(

alejnadro · #2 (**permalink**) 11-01-2009, 05:36 AM

it may be the PH of the water, do you know what the PH of your water is?

jrossc · #3 (**permalink**) 11-01-2009, 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by alejnadro

it may be the PH of the water, do you know what the PH of your water is?

I try to keep it between 5.5-6.5. I cleaned the roots off today and the brown shit that came off smelled very strongly of superthrive. Does superthrive tend to do this?

alejnadro · #4 (**permalink**) 11-01-2009, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by jrossc

I try to keep it between 5.5-6.5. I cleaned the roots off today and the brown shit that came off smelled very strongly of superthrive. Does superthrive tend to do this?

try to not let the PH level go lower than 6.0

as for superthrive, i dont know, since i have never used it

jrossc · #5 (**permalink**) 11-01-2009, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by alejnadro

try to not let the PH level go lower than 6.0

as for superthrive, i dont know, since i have never used it

I'm pretty sure the ideal pH for hydro is 5.2-5.8 increasing from 5.2 as the plant grows. Could someone correct me if im wrong.

janemba · #6 (**permalink**) 11-01-2009, 11:11 PM

yes super thrive will do that... its a bio film, pick up food grade hydrogen peroxide (32% not 3% that comes in the brown bottle, most hydro stores sell it) it will oxygenate the water and keep it clean
and ph for hydro is 5.5-6.5, 5.8-6.0 being ideal

alejnadro · #7 (**permalink**) 11-02-2009, 04:34 AM

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Originally Posted by janemba

yes super thrive will do that... its a bio film, pick up food grade hydrogen peroxide (32% not 3% that comes in the brown bottle, most hydro stores sell it) it will oxygenate the water and keep it clean
and ph for hydro is 5.5-6.5, 5.8-6.0 being ideal

ah my bad, i tohught that it had to be over 6.0 but i guess thats for soil, carry on

jrossc · #8 (**permalink**) 11-02-2009, 05:26 AM

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Originally Posted by janemba

yes super thrive will do that... its a bio film, pick up food grade hydrogen peroxide (32% not 3% that comes in the brown bottle, most hydro stores sell it) it will oxygenate the water and keep it clean
and ph for hydro is 5.5-6.5, 5.8-6.0 being ideal

just to make sure that film being there isnt detrimental to my plants in anyway right?

also i cleaned most of it off... shaking the roots in some water cant get the real dense stuff off thats closest to the pot, and i dont wanna soak the rockwool down there on accident... any1 have a better way of cleaning roots?

janemba · #9 (**permalink**) 11-02-2009, 05:46 AM

biofilm is a build up of macroscopic microorganisms, meaning a cluster of bacteria fungus, archaea, algea, and protozoa, stuff like that, it can be harmfull i know in humans it can cause microbial infections, but it is also used to treat polluted bodys of water, and breaks down raw sewage. do more research on it. i dont think its bad for the roots since ur not introducing anything nasty in ur reservoir. its just the enzymems in the super thrive
good luck

jrossc · #10 (**permalink**) 11-02-2009, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by janemba

biofilm is a build up of macroscopic microorganisms, meaning a cluster of bacteria fungus, archaea, algea, and protozoa, stuff like that, it can be harmfull i know in humans it can cause microbial infections, but it is also used to treat polluted bodys of water, and breaks down raw sewage. do more research on it. i dont think its bad for the roots since ur not introducing anything nasty in ur reservoir. its just the enzymems in the super thrive
good luck

ok thanks alot man...

janemba · #11 (**permalink**) 11-02-2009, 09:09 PM

check out bi-o-kleen... im not 100% sure on this but i heard it will clean bio-film out of ur hydro system check out if its safe to use with plants

jrossc · #12 (**permalink**) 11-03-2009, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by janemba

check out bi-o-kleen... im not 100% sure on this but i heard it will clean bio-film out of ur hydro system check out if its safe to use with plants

I just rinsed them off and it hasnt come back, and the root development seems to be going faster.

janemba · #13 (**permalink**) 11-03-2009, 08:01 PM

glad to hear... good luck man

jrossc · #14 (**permalink**) 11-04-2009, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by janemba

glad to hear... good luck man

yep thanks for your help
heres some new pix these are the roots 4 days later after just cleaning them with phed water and H2O2. And the top of the plant... not really sure whats up with the leaves i think its cuz i cant keep my ph steady it likes to go up alot, does it look like something other than a ph problem?

janemba · #15 (**permalink**) 11-04-2009, 09:10 PM

looks like a nutrient burn, what r u feeding with and how much? whats the ppm and ec of the food/ water solution? what r u using to balance ur ph?

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#1 (permalink) 10-30-2009, 09:01 PM
jrossc Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 24	brownish roots Alright I'm having a pretty hard time figureing out whats going on here... at first there was a very thick white/clear slime engulfing all of my roots... so i dumped the res and sanitized it a week ago. Now the past couple days i have noticed a brown kind of slime that clumps the roots together. The roots themselves arent brown just the slime on them. I have a 25 gallon res lightproofed and all with aluminum tape. res temps are from 77-80 degrees. Im using about a 300ppm nute mix with BC grow and BC boost. (1tsp boost .5tsp grow/gal) about a drop of superthrive per gallon. I also added a tsp per gallon of H2O2 3% when i cleaned the res. But I recently learned that it dissapates fairly quickly...but my clear thick slime hasnt returned. Should I be worried? Also It should be noted that the plants seem to be doing fine from the top... no discoloration normal grow patterns...for now =(

#2 (permalink) 11-01-2009, 05:36 AM
alejnadro Banned Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 140	Re: brownish roots it may be the PH of the water, do you know what the PH of your water is?

#6 (permalink) 11-01-2009, 11:11 PM
janemba Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: some where in cali Posts: 150	Re: brownish roots yes super thrive will do that... its a bio film, pick up food grade hydrogen peroxide (32% not 3% that comes in the brown bottle, most hydro stores sell it) it will oxygenate the water and keep it clean and ph for hydro is 5.5-6.5, 5.8-6.0 being ideal Last edited by janemba; 11-02-2009 at 04:01 AM.

#9 (permalink) 11-02-2009, 05:46 AM
janemba Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: some where in cali Posts: 150	Re: brownish roots biofilm is a build up of macroscopic microorganisms, meaning a cluster of bacteria fungus, archaea, algea, and protozoa, stuff like that, it can be harmfull i know in humans it can cause microbial infections, but it is also used to treat polluted bodys of water, and breaks down raw sewage. do more research on it. i dont think its bad for the roots since ur not introducing anything nasty in ur reservoir. its just the enzymems in the super thrive good luck __________________ sometimes u have to fail a few times, before u get it right... http://forum.grasscity.com/grow-room...-100sq-ft.html Last edited by janemba; 11-02-2009 at 05:48 AM.

#11 (permalink) 11-02-2009, 09:09 PM
janemba Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: some where in cali Posts: 150	Re: brownish roots check out bi-o-kleen... im not 100% sure on this but i heard it will clean bio-film out of ur hydro system check out if its safe to use with plants __________________ sometimes u have to fail a few times, before u get it right... http://forum.grasscity.com/grow-room...-100sq-ft.html

#13 (permalink) 11-03-2009, 08:01 PM
janemba Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: some where in cali Posts: 150	Re: brownish roots glad to hear... good luck man __________________ sometimes u have to fail a few times, before u get it right... http://forum.grasscity.com/grow-room...-100sq-ft.html

#15 (permalink) 11-04-2009, 09:10 PM
janemba Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: some where in cali Posts: 150	Re: brownish roots looks like a nutrient burn, what r u feeding with and how much? whats the ppm and ec of the food/ water solution? what r u using to balance ur ph? __________________ sometimes u have to fail a few times, before u get it right... http://forum.grasscity.com/grow-room...-100sq-ft.html Last edited by janemba; 11-04-2009 at 09:12 PM.

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